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House Republicans to Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'
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Posted on 10/04/2011 9:49:20 AM PDT by sunmars

EXCLUSIVE: House Republicans are going to call for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is sending a letter to President Obama arguing that Holder cannot investigate himself and will request a probe by a special counsel.

The question is whether Holder committed perjury during a Judiciary Committee hearing in May. At the time, Holder indicated he was not familiar with with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program known as Fast and Furious.

However, a newly discovered memo dated July 2010 shows Michael Walther, director of the National Drug Intelligence Center, told Holder that straw buyers in the Fast and Furious operation "are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to the Mexican drug trafficking cartels."

In response to the Monday release of that and other documents, the Justice Department said Holder was confused by the question, and that he was answering about when he first learned of the "troubling tactics" of the program, not the name of it.

But House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told Fox News on Tuesday morning that Holder saying he didn't understand the question rather than he didn't know of the program is not a successful defense to perjury.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/04/house-republicans-to-request-special-counsel-to-probe-holder-on-fast-and/#ixzz1ZpfAxeQ7

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To: sunmars
...watch the heads explode...

I prefer beheadings...

41 posted on 10/04/2011 10:02:55 AM PDT by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: dead

Exactly. How about a special prosecutor for the whole F & F gunwalker thing? Including who in the WH knew and/or was directing/authorizing criminal activities.


42 posted on 10/04/2011 10:04:04 AM PDT by rod1
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To: bigbob

This expands it beyond the House/Senate investigations. Regardless how the administration plays it, the request is there and political capital can be made either way. Also, the MSM has somewhat expanded their coverage. It’s not going away, that’s for sure, and this helps.


43 posted on 10/04/2011 10:04:04 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: sunmars

A “Special Councel”?

Is that anything like a Special Prosecutor? If so - then Bring It On!

We need a 2012 version of Ken Starr. Yes we do.


44 posted on 10/04/2011 10:04:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: sunmars

A crack in the dam is beginning to now trickle water. Expect the shifting of the mass structure to yield other cracks and leaks.

The Obama Regime is at the cusp of having their mass corruption and crimes against America exposed. And he’ll be taking the dems right down with him.


45 posted on 10/04/2011 10:04:53 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: MestaMachine

Who gets to pick the special counsel, and is that the same thing as a special prosecutor?


46 posted on 10/04/2011 10:04:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: sunmars

Remember that White House Insider series by Ulsterman? In it, the WHI said they were going to go after Holder to try to take him down because he’s the firewall keeping Obama safe.

Interesting how things are being leaked that lead to Holder.

(BTW, do not go to newsflavor.com. I got the FakeAlert trojan from there yesterday and it was a bear to clean.)


47 posted on 10/04/2011 10:05:23 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: simplesimon

I don’t like special prosecutors. Congress should just do its job and impeach him. They can have it done within two months.

Asking for a special prosecutor is the coward’s way out.


48 posted on 10/04/2011 10:06:21 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

He’s not there anymore.


49 posted on 10/04/2011 10:07:14 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: sunmars
the Justice Department said Holder was confused by the question

I don't recall works a lot better than I'm confused. Lessons from Bill and Hill.

50 posted on 10/04/2011 10:08:13 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: simplesimon

“And what happens should Ovomit deny this request for special council ?” -SS

That right there is the key question. My guess is that there is ‘zero’ chance Obama will allow an independent investigation, forcing a stand-off.

Will Issa take it to impeachment? (are there other remedies?)


51 posted on 10/04/2011 10:08:25 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: sunmars

In before the Ken Starr posts.

Seriously... maybe I’m getting old, but I remember when we thought we had Clinton — until the deliberately inept and sex-fueled “investigation” by Ken Starr.

The media mercilessly vilified Starr until he gave Dims exactly what they needed, and the Great Clinton was even greater for defeating the evil Republicans.

Hussein’s worshippers say “YES YOU CAN” when he pines for going above the law. Big Media loves him and will play this against Republicans until Michelle comes home.


52 posted on 10/04/2011 10:08:37 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sunmars
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is sending a letter to President Obama arguing that Holder cannot investigate himself and will request a probe by a special counsel.

Obama and Holder are partners in crime, wonder what the next step is when Obama refuses.

53 posted on 10/04/2011 10:08:37 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: little jeremiah

Holder will resign his office and then Obama will pick him as Special Counsel.


54 posted on 10/04/2011 10:08:50 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: randita
The AG of the USA didn't understand the question!

Hahahahahahahaha!

55 posted on 10/04/2011 10:09:53 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: rawhide
Are they going to say this was a rogue matter, outside of their oversight?

If it is a rogue, not only should the rogue be fired but also the person who hired the rogue. What are the internal policies? Who is responsible for compliance?

56 posted on 10/04/2011 10:10:50 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
57 posted on 10/04/2011 10:10:50 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: COBOL2Java

Do we want Hussein to return Johnny Reno to power after Holder?


58 posted on 10/04/2011 10:10:59 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sunmars

Darn right it’s about damn time...he never should have been allowed in office. The cabal is going to crumble.


59 posted on 10/04/2011 10:12:57 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: sunmars
Going to? How many more must die?

Media Cover Up: U.S. Government Invokes
National Security to Conceal Deal Cut with
Mexican Drug Cartel"


"DOJ says Mexican cartels operating in over 1,000 U.S. cities
… spanning all nine Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) regions,"
according to the U.S. Justice Department's National Drug Threat Assessment of 2011."


"Report: Woman survives live grenade in face"


"Sources: Five grenades thrown in Rio Bravo[Mexico]"


"California Iraqi-Mexican crime ring busted
"Police in southern California have arrested 60 people and broken up
an Iraqi criminal ring accused of selling drugs, machine guns and improvised bombs
out of an immigrant social club"


"Child Finds (Live) Grenade Near Local Creek]"


"News Troops kill 3 gunmen in northern Mexico, seize weapons, vehicles
"Three suspected organized crime gummen were killed and another three
were wounded in a clash near the northeastern Mexican city of Matamoros with army troops,
who seized more than 100 weapons and nearly a score of vehicles after the gun battle, military sources said.
The Defense Secretariat's 4th Military Region said in a statement that 83 automatic rifles,
18 handguns, five grenade launchers, a rocket launcher,
11 fragmentation grenades, 28 40 mm grenades, 315 ammunition clips,
more than 18,000 rounds of ammunition, 17 vehicles and eight kilos of marijuana
were confiscated in Wednesday's operation. "'


Mexican federal police discover arsenal of heavy weapons in Ciudad Juarez home
"Mexican federal police said Saturday they discovered a basement arsenal
hidden behind the mirrors of a home gym that included three anti-aircraft guns,
dozens of grenades, a grenade launcher, AK-47s and other high-powered weapons. "


[Mexico:]Grenade attacks throughout Tamaulipas; shootouts reported'


"[South Texas]Border Patrol finds rocket launcher, grenade launcher,
explosives near Rio Grande "


Fast & Furious: Congress expanding probe to include grenades


"Despite Denials, Map Proves Deliberate Illegal Gun Trafficking by ATF to Mexico"



"U.S. Admits Mexican (Drug) Cartels Control Parts Of Border"

60 posted on 10/04/2011 10:13:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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