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Declaration of Independence Was 'Illegal,' Grounds for Treason, British Lawyers Say
Fox News ^ | 10/20/11

Posted on 11/06/2011 6:42:22 AM PST by Libloather

Declaration of Independence Was 'Illegal,' Grounds for Treason, British Lawyers Say
Published October 20, 2011 | FoxNews.com

The Declaration of Independence was “illegal” and “treasonable,” according to a team of British lawyers, the BBC reports.

The assertion was made at a debate in Philadelphia between British and American lawyers over the legitimacy of the United States of America.

At the debate, pitting British barristers against American attorneys, lawyers for the former colonial power argued that America’s Declaration of Independence in 1776 “was not only illegal, but actually treasonable,” according to the BBC.

The lawyers representing the British team decided that the Americans had no legal grounds for secession. "[President Abraham] Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: british; declaration; independence; treason
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To: freedomfiter2
If it was illegal for the southern states to secede then it was illegal for the colonies to do so.

There is one vital difference between the two cases. The colonies won.

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason". Ovid

41 posted on 11/06/2011 7:17:17 AM PST by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: Libloather
Well duh! When Jesus Christ said that only through Him can you reach his FATHER; that was “illegal” as well...

WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT!?!?!?

(think twice cause we kicked a lot of butt over the centuries and ain't done yet—still gotta finish that “Crusade thing” against the evil Islamists yet.)

42 posted on 11/06/2011 7:17:59 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ‘’like’ and ‘you know’ is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.

Having lived in the UK, in Norfolk (pronounced "Naw-F**k by the locals), I have to ask you for some assistance. Is "Water" pronounced "Wah-er" and is the number "33" pronounced "firty-free?" Also, is it proper use the phrase "aye, mate" and to end each sentence with "wot" or "wot-eh?"

I welcome your most esteemed instruction for us poor, backwards savages.

43 posted on 11/06/2011 7:18:06 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Libloather

“If this be treason, make the most of it!”

CA....


44 posted on 11/06/2011 7:18:09 AM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: EyeGuy

All the founders knew it at the time. They stood to lose huge fortunes and their lives. Immortalized by Franklin: “We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately” at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.


45 posted on 11/06/2011 7:19:10 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Libloather
Oh, yeah? Well we double dog dare you to come back, chase the president out of Washington and burn the White House again.
46 posted on 11/06/2011 7:19:47 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Ben Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.


47 posted on 11/06/2011 7:21:07 AM PST by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

>>>In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately

Excellent point. By electing incompetent people like Ubama Bin Laden and a corrupt Congress, the American people have proven that they are incapable of self-government. America is now broke, and unemployment is very high. If America is recolonized by Britain, American finances will improve, because the British are better at financial management than Americans.

Americans should admit that they have failed to govern themselves, and beg the British to take them back. Canada, which recognizes the Queen as Head of State, did not suffer from a Mortgage crisis, and they are not being burdened with huge debt that will burden future generations. Canada did not steal money from their taxpayers, in order to bail out failing banks. Canada does not have 15 percent of their population on food stamps. See: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/11/01/some-15-of-u-s-uses-food-stamps/

America has lost its way, and the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves. America should bring back the British. It would also be cool to have Prince William as our King in waiting.


48 posted on 11/06/2011 7:21:19 AM PST by pinochet
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To: JoeDetweiler

I didn’t see your retraction, my apologies.


49 posted on 11/06/2011 7:22:28 AM PST by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: magslinger

1812-2012.....

We strike right into London....Burn London Bridge, Loot Downing Street, trash their museums...

F the Queen.

Our payback for 1812 was the Lend Lease Act, along with thousands of Merchant Marines, sailors...not to mention Omaha and Utah Beach.


50 posted on 11/06/2011 7:23:02 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: pinochet
Canada, which recognizes the Queen as Head of State, did not suffer from a Mortgage crisis, and they are not being burdened with huge debt that will burden future generations. Canada did not steal money from their taxpayers, in order to bail out failing banks. Canada does not have 15 percent of their population on food stamps.

Canada's subjects must wait two years for an MRI. They often wait months for many simple medical procedures. Often, by the time they are seen, it's too late. Many Canadians come to the U.S. for medical treatment.

Canada does not trust its subjects with weapons.

Canada has high taxes.

If you live in the U.S., move to Canada since you believe it is superior to the U.S. If you live in Canada, please stay there.

51 posted on 11/06/2011 7:26:24 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: rbmillerjr

But can we afford to do for England what we did for Germany and Japan?


52 posted on 11/06/2011 7:26:24 AM PST by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You are correct. They all knew that it was illegal and that there was a price on their heads.

That is why on one of the hottest days in Philadelphia, the founding fathers, in their wool clothing, went to Independence Hall with guards. They sat in the building with the windows closed and curtains drawn. It was well over 100 degrees and they were signing their own death warrants, but they did it for the new United States of America and freedom from the king.

I had the marvelous opportunity to stand in the spot where the Declaration of Independence was signed on a day as hot as the July that the founders endured. I thank them for what they went through for us.


53 posted on 11/06/2011 7:31:32 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Never follow a hippie to a second location.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Oh, yeah? Well we double dog dare you to come back, chase the president out of Washington and burn the White House again.

Hey the British burned Washington once. It isn't their fault we rebuilt it. And we can hardly expect them to repeat the favor.
54 posted on 11/06/2011 7:33:18 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Libloather
The winner gets to write the history.

End of story.

55 posted on 11/06/2011 7:34:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: freedomfiter2

War means the winners won and the losers lost. Just like fighting...and losing to muslims.


56 posted on 11/06/2011 7:38:43 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Libloather

Queen Liz toasts American independence on its 200th Anniversary. Nuff said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYiYkFaSuLs


57 posted on 11/06/2011 7:40:33 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Libloather

So, using their argument, are they going to give England back to the Stuarts? Tear down any statues of Cromwell?


58 posted on 11/06/2011 7:43:47 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Libloather
The Declaration of Independence was “illegal” and “treasonable,”

Them theres fightin' words.

59 posted on 11/06/2011 7:48:30 AM PST by bigheadfred (wogga wogga)
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To: magslinger

No.

I think we should pull back...modernize and prepare for China.


60 posted on 11/06/2011 7:49:12 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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