Skip to comments.Exclusive: Cain on Campaign Future, Part 1 (and Part 2)
Posted on 11/30/2011 3:10:15 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
GOP candidate speaks out on 'Your World'
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November 30, 2011
Exclusive: Cain on Campaign Future, Part 2
GOP candidate speaks out on ‘Your World’
Obama can’t have a real black man running against him; especially one who wants to help all America; not hurt it.
Cain’s “reassessment” is based on four factors:
1. The impact on my family. My number one priority.
2. The feedback that I have gotten from my supporters, which has been overwhelmingly positive for me to stay.
3. Some people will convict me in the court of public opinion, which will cause them not to contribute. The first day the story broke, contributions dropped way off. They are moving back up - because I believe the American People are starting to see through this character assassination on me.
4. (I didn’t catch a fourth item.)
Cain’s Attorney has requested discovery relating to the texts and phone calls. (”Discovery” is my word, not Cain’s word — they have requested info relating to the phone calls and texts.)
On the other hand, if he is ready to get into that hot kitchen, he needs to confer with Lin Wood and his favorite PR adviser...and then return fire at this woman.
He needs to lay out the details from his point of view and demand the same from her. His lawyer needs to consider suing her for whatever she has been paid and then going after those who have paid her. Many of us would contribute to a fund to pay this woman for the truth (so there could be a tempting settlement for her to turn on her Democratic benefactor).
Cain needs to fight for the country and ignore the personal pain. If he is guilty (even partially)...tell the frikken truth and let the chips fall.
Cain said if continued allegations like these have a heavy toll on his wife and family, then he will..... and he stopped short of saying he would quit. He said he would reassess. Cavuto pressed the point further, and Cain said YES, if it affects his wife and family too severely, he would quit.
(Unfortunately, Cain just gave his enemies the recipe on how to get him to quit: Keep upsetting his wife.)
He said his wife asked him if the allegations were true. He said no, they are not true.
Um, Neil, have you met Newt Gingrich ??
you remembered three! ask Rick what the other one is....
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I don't think there was a 4.
Cain actually did very well in this interview. He provided more detail than he had previously and made a pretty strong case for himself.
You know what? I agree with you.
I watched both parts of this interview in their entirety. I’m sure I could be convinced that a serial killer is innocent if they have the charm of James Dean, but my BS meter does not go off with Cain. Yes, Sociopaths believe their lies. But Cain is believable to me. As unscientific as that is.
However, if the affair did happen, I don’t even care. Like you said, if he admits it, we can move on. In fact, if he had said something like this at the very beginning of his campaign (like the beginning of every rally for the first 6 weeks):
“I had an affair. I’m not proud of it, but it happened. My wife and I have worked it out, she forgave me, and we are happily married and committed to this campaign. I wanted you, the people, to hear it from me first, rather than have it drug up later by the media. Now, let’s talk about how we are going to save our Country!”
Then the media would have nothing to report on. It would be old news. And there’s nothing the media hates more than old news. (Or maybe a Black Conservative.) LOL
In the second half of the interview, Cavuto brings up Gingrich’s affairs. So he did address that point. Cain responded well.
LOL Good one! ;-)
But I don’t think Cain said a fourth item. Or maybe I misunderstood one of the points, and it was actually two points. You can listen to the first part of the first interview and see if you catch a fourth item.
I hope this doesn’t come out sounding too bad, but....
Coming from you, that is HUGH !! ;-)
But on a serious note: I’m glad to hear you say that. I thought he did well in this interview too. But I’ve always liked Cain, whereas I know you don’t. So for you to say he did well, I am impressed, and I thank you for saying something positive about him. (Dare I ask, did it hurt? ;-)
He added that he wife told him today that she loves him.
Your posts are very clear.
You must be an excellent typist!
LOL. I call em' as I see him. I thought Cain finally put forth a solid, detailed explanation of what happened and acquitted himself well. In my opinion that is all it takes to debunk this stuff if there is nothing to these allegations. He's just going to have to answer the specifics - what is the friendship to him, why was he helping her, etc. Cain did that in this interview, and if he deals with the media going forward like he just did on Cavuto's show then I think he can put it behind him.
I'd even go further, if Cain would just keep doing interviews like this one and answer all the questions he might generate a sympathy backlash in his favor - and if there was actually a way he could prove this allegation was a smear, a lot of people will take a second look because disproving one accusation will have the effect of wiping out all of them. If that were to happen, Cain would become almost immune to any future attacks because people would start assuming every negative thing the media put forward was just another bogus smear.
He actually began doing that in this interview. He didn't duck or dodge any questions and was very specific with his answers. Cain mentioned that he helps a lot of people and that his assistance to this woman wasn't unusual. Who are the people that typically need help most often? Those who find themselves down on their luck on a regular basis. And those people might have exactly the kind of issues this woman has. Listening to Cain's interview on Cavuto, one is left with the impression it is a bit like a foster parent that gets burned by a few of the kids they try to help. Overall rewarding, but sometimes bad apples will bite the hand that feeds.
His lawyer needs to consider suing her for whatever she has been paid and then going after those who have paid her.
I wouldn't say doing that during the campaign is a good idea. His lawyer can make it clear that in the future they may pursue legal action against these slanders, but Herman needs to focus on the campaign at the moment. Anyone in the public spotlight is susceptible to these sorts of accusations, and if Cain keeps doing interviews like this one the problem will be sufficiently dealt with for now. This is really a PR issue at the moment, not a legal one. Court fights can be dealt with after the campaign is over.
He needs to own-up or kick the sh!!te out of this woman.
This isn't about honor or family or chastity...this is about County.
Cain needs to stand up and march...or sit down and STFU.
But Cain needs to take action and remove any doubt. If he does as you suggest he might...there might be hope.
I sure hope so...
I've watched a lot of Cain's interviews. Mostly because I don't believe a WORD of what the media says, even if they say the Sun rises in the East. So I always go to the video to see it for myself. The Libya gaffe, for example: The snipped video looked HORRIBLE. I was mortified. Then I watched the entire 35 minute interview, and I saw that (a) it wasn't as bad as the snipped version made it look (not by a long shot), and (b) Cain was medically fatigued in that interview.
(I'm in the Safety field, and we talk about Fatigue all the time.)
This Cavuto interview is Cain when he is rested. He apparently only needs 4 hours sleep per night, which isn't enough anyway, and I'm sure he is burning the candle at both ends on the campaign trail and is probably getting only 2 hours sleep many nights. So I have observed there are days when Cain is rested, and days when he is fatigued. He does great when he is rested, and thankfully, that is most of the time now. After the Libya gaffe, his campaign recognized he needed more rest, so they trimmed an engagement or two. Rule #1, take care of yourself first, or you can't help others. He needs to follow Rule #1 and get enough rest.
There will be plenty of people who will say Cain should never get fatigued, and that “If Cain wants to be President, he should be able to do all things at all times and know everything about everything, and be God's Gift to Mankind at all hours of the day or night, whether he's had 1 hour of sleep that week or not!”
But that's not reality. Reality is that it's much harder physically to campaign for the Presidency than it is to be President. (People will not read my words, and think I'm saying it's not hard to be President, so I'll say it again: It is much harder PHYSICALLY to campaign than it is to be President.)
The President has an army of staff at his disposal, and he can delegate everything and anything, and be sure to get adequate rest — except in the first hours of a crisis. But no “crisis” lasts for months on end like the campaign trail does. And a well-rested person can go 3 days with no sleep, working on just adrenaline. So in a crisis, any President would be fine for the first 3 days, then he can get some rest.
(My posts are always way too long. Apologies everyone.)
Awww shucks, thanks!
So you have NOT watched both parts of the two-part video of the interview with Neil Cavuto, right?
If he is guilty, admit it. If he is innocent...fight back with the truth at your side.
I may misunderstand your POV...but if Cain is innocent...he needs to fight back. He needs to demonstrate how he would defend the country against false accusations. He needs to define his courage...his character...his soul.
He is after all... a minister first.
I have given my life to Christ...He is the first One to whom I pay my dues...He is the one to whom I answer, first and last.
Cain is a minister to our Lord...isn't that his commitment?
I don’t remember Gingrich having any women falsely accuse him of sleeping around on his wives.
Herman wouldn’t ask it of them, but it would help for some of the others he’s “helped” to step forward with true stories supporting the pattern Herman is stating here.
I have not had time (work gets in the way...dammit)...but I will ASAP. Thx for instructing me to do so.
His brothers need to ask on Herman’s behalf. His defenders need to step up to the plate and speak!
Move on !!!!
Go Herman ... it’s not over, SCREW MSM and Obama
BEAT Obama’s Games now, then soundly BEAT him in the Election
Yes, he needs to stand up. Ignore these fools and continue forward.
Well, you know Cain is not my candidate. I have disagreements with him on policy and other issues, but I don’t want to see him unfairly smeared. I also hold folks on our side to a higher standard and tend to be tougher on them when they don’t deal with issues and the media the way I’d like to see.
My critique about Cain regarding these affair allegations has simply been that he hasn’t handled them well till today (in my opinion). If there is nothing there, he should be completely upfront and answer every question. I think he did that in this Cavuto interview, and if he continues along these lines I think he can put these accusations behind him and perhaps come out stronger.
There are some things that really unite us and one is a hatred for the left wing, statist mainstream media. If Cain is open, specific, and answers all the questions and explains why these charges are bogus he will generate a lot of sympathy from all conservatives whether they support him for President or not. And if it were possible for him to ever PROVE the allegations were complete lies and smears, well he will have done ALL conservatives a great service and make a lot of people take a second look at him.
I have a different theory for why the MSM is ripping Cain to pieces with glee. In my view, it isn’t that they are afraid he can beat Obama. I really don’t think most in the establishment ever believed Cain would be the nominee. What I do think they are afraid of is how much more powerful Cain was going to be as a force in the future. Even if he doesn’t win, Herman was poised to come out of this primary as a major black conservative voice recognized by nearly everyone. Cain will likely end up on TV all the time, perhaps his own show, etc. THAT, in my view, is what the liberal establishment and race hustlers fear most.
He needs to face his accusers and demand their evidence!
Yeah, I think he is trying to point out that the communication is mostly one way. Sounds like she was mostly texting and calling Cain, and he was maybe just responding occasionally.
I think if Cain just answers all the questions the way he did on Cavuto's show he will go a long, long way to resolving this stuff. Let the media ask everything they want, is there is nothing to hide then Cain can just answer openly and specifically. At that point it puts the ball back in her court. If she's got nothing more, the issue is dead. There would just be nowhere further to go with it.
I don't mean to be snarky here, but seriously, you are talking about what a great Christian you are and all, yet you are making false accusations about Cain, and you are judging him, and you are finding him guilty, in each of your posts. And in your later post to me, you say you haven't had “time” to watch the video. But you have time to FReep and post all these negative and unfounded posts about Cain??
Again, I don't mean to be a jerk, but how about you watch the entire video interview, and THEN form an opinion. I won't argue with your opinion after you have an INFORMED opinion.
Isn't that fair?
Even you, who is not a Cain fan, are now somewhat defending him after watching the video. Yet we have FReepers who won't spend the 15 minutes to watch the video. They will FReep for hours at a time, but not spend 15 minutes to get to the heart of the matter. They will post how horrible Cain is, and how he isn't doing it right (no matter what he does, I might add), etc.
We can't even get FReepers to do their homework, so there's no way the General Public will do any homework. It's an uphill battle against an ignorant population that chooses to remain ignorant. (Now do people see why Cain put out the 9-9-9 CARTOON? Because the electorate is a bunch of ignorant name-calling CHILDREN, and a CARTOON is exactly the right METHOD to get the message across to the ignorant masses — whether you like 9-9-9 or not, but that's another subject.)
I guess the good news is that a recent poll suggested that Cable TV News is where a good chunk of people get their news. So hopefully that means a good chunk of people will watch the video(s) of Cain themselves, and get “the real info” from Cain, rather than reading it in print.
(PS: Caps are for emphasis, not yelling.)
You could definitely be correct about Cain’s long-term effect on the World As They Know It.
The Left definitely doesn’t want the Black community to run away from the Plantation. So they’re pulling a Roots on Cain.... They are trying to “Kunta Kinte” him and every other Black American so they don’t run away.
I will watch that interview again as you suggest, but as one poster said...Herman needs to unleash h$ll on his attackers because this is just the beginning.
Obama plays dirty, it's the Chicago way. Herman does not need to fight dirty, but what he may lack in dirt, he must compensate for with toughness and effectiveness.
Watch both halves of the interview, not just the first one.
In the real world, things take time. You don’t just “slap a suit” on someone in a couple hours’ time. I don’t know what world you live in, but the story broke 2 days ago. Maybe you’ve heard that the court system is jammed, and you can’t slap together a suit in a few minutes. They are moving as fast as possible in the real world. And Cain’s lawyer is on it:
That said, Cain's lawyer (and I am quite familiar with Lin Wood) stumbled out of the gate on this one by not conferring with his client before he made a public statement (the one about how the bedroom is off limits for the press).
BTW, the world I live in is the one wherein you respond to attacks ferociously and immediately. Cain better stop worrying about his wife and get out front of this crap.
BTW, in reference to your tag line...Cain IS my candidate.
And I tend to agree with you, about “stop worrying about his wife and get out front of this crap.” But I'm a bit more matter-of-fact when it comes to this stuff, and in my world, my spouse would have to suck it up for awhile while “we” get through it. But I'm harsh like that, and anyone who is my better-half knows how I am about that sort of thing. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. I expect my spouse to support me through the BS, and be by my side until they start pulling dead bodies out of the trunk of my car.
But I think Cain, on the other hand, has a huge soft spot in his heart for Mrs. Cain. We have all seen how he speaks so well of her, and we see his lovely children, and we know you don't build a wonderful family like that without being a very good man at heart.
I've also known many a man who are brilliant and powerful in their work, but complete mushballs when it comes to women. Mrs. Cain can probably get Herman to do anything she asks of him. And I've also known many man who are complete idiots when it comes to women. I have one friend who makes good money, but any woman can get money out of him 7 days a week. I know another guy who has THREE women who use him for his money. “I need to pay my electric bill.” Here's $80. “I need to buy shoes for my son.” Here's $60. Until there is none left for the man who earned the money!
Women (not all, of course) can be the most conniving, vicious, revenge-taking animals on the planet. Cain is at risk for being taken advantage of because of his kindness.
Hopefully, Lin Wood will take the lead on this in a public way, and that will reassure people. Wood apparently made the Bialek / Krushaar / Gloria Allred crap go away, even though the nay-sayers will refuse to acknowledge that.