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The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US
Business Insider ^ | 12/5/2011 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 12/08/2011 8:32:00 AM PST by Just4Him

The U.S. military has some of the most advanced killing equipment in the world that allows it to invade almost wherever it likes at will. We produce so much military equipment that inventories of military robots, M-16 assault rifles, helicopters, armored vehicles, and grenade launchers eventually start to pile up and it turns out a lot of these weapons are going straight to American police forces to be used against US citizens. Benjamin Carlson at The Daily reports on a little known endeavor called the "1033 Program" that gave more than $500 million of military gear to U.S. police forces in 2011 alone. 1033 was passed by Congress in 1997 to help law-enforcement fight terrorism and drugs, but despite a 40-year low in violent crime, police are snapping up hardware like never before. While this year's staggering take topped the charts, next year's orders are up 400 percent over the same period.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/08/2011 8:32:04 AM PST by Just4Him
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To: Just4Him

grenade launchers. Any idea what is comming?


2 posted on 12/08/2011 8:35:38 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

I remember when the Philly Police took out half a neighborhood with a homemade bomb.

Do we really want to trust them with 21st. Century weaponry?


3 posted on 12/08/2011 8:37:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Logical me

I am beginning to REALLY hate ANYONE with a “Government Issued “Badge””!


4 posted on 12/08/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Just4Him

‘to be used against American citizens’? Why do I feel like I don’t have a dog in this hunt?


5 posted on 12/08/2011 8:39:35 AM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: Just4Him

While I agree that we are turning our policemen into soldiers, which is a very bad idea, I didn’t see anything other than normal crowd control tactics used against the OWS clowns.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 8:43:44 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Logical me

Sounds like they are anticipating massive civil unrest. Obama recently signed EO’s that allow him to seize control of all roads, waterways, rail roads, telecom infrastructure, the air traffic control system, water works, power companies, pipelines, etc., pretty much everything necessary to bring the entire country to a screeching halt at the flip of a switch.


7 posted on 12/08/2011 8:46:43 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: Just4Him

I’ve been saying for years the second amendment is a joke.

We are only “allowed” to own 100 year old technology and only the small stuff...but the cops get whatever they want. THAT IS NOT A WELL REGULATED MILITIA YOU IDIOTS.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 8:48:04 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Just4Him
..more than $500 million of military gear to U.S. police forces in 2011 alone...fight terrorism and drugs, but despite a 40-year low in violent crime, police are snapping up hardware like never before...

If it's worked for police departments... against criminals, the new stuff should be given to the Border Patrol... might help with the "illegals" problem.

9 posted on 12/08/2011 8:48:09 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Just4Him

How long until they offer them troops, as well?


10 posted on 12/08/2011 8:48:41 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: arrdon
Why do I feel like I don’t have a dog in this hunt?

Naivety?

11 posted on 12/08/2011 8:51:14 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t recall this ... What happened ?


12 posted on 12/08/2011 8:51:55 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Just4Him

Let’s see; The gubmut, under threat of law, steels our money through excessive taxation in the name of defense of the nation to buy more killing equipment than it needs and then transfers much of that surplus hardware to the local PDs. That clearly subverts the intent of the Constitution’s principle. If the hardware is deemed as surplus and still works, then the funding for new hardware needs to be cut equivalently to that surplus. Jackbooted and dressed to kill pumps the PDs testosterone but can and probably will kill US citizens. What the PDs need are officers like Andy Taylor and Barney Fife!


13 posted on 12/08/2011 8:53:35 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Just4Him
This is not a good policy.

It is a back door tactic to circumvent the intent of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Think about the news reports of SWAT teams busting into houses and shooting people 50, 70, 100 times.

If they have military weaponry and train to use it they will eventually fabricate a reason to try it out.

14 posted on 12/08/2011 8:57:39 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
While I agree that we are turning our policemen into soldiers, which is a very bad idea, I didn’t see anything other than normal crowd control tactics used against the OWS clowns.

They are saving the heavy stuff for use against right-wingers.

15 posted on 12/08/2011 8:59:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Just4Him
...that allows it to invade almost wherever it likes at will.

Gee, a little bias - ya think? Fool should read the constitution. The Military doesn't decide who its going to invade

16 posted on 12/08/2011 8:59:56 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Just4Him

I am the newly elected Sheriff of the small town of WayneSburg, Virginia (Pop. 3).

How can I get some of this equipment?


17 posted on 12/08/2011 9:00:25 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Last Dakotan

No, but the police do.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 9:02:59 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
While I agree that we are turning our policemen into soldiers, which is a very bad idea, I didn’t see anything other than normal crowd control tactics used against the OWS clowns.

OWS are the good guys.

We're the bad guys.

19 posted on 12/08/2011 9:05:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemy’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: Just4Him

Lovely. Just what we need: turning our police into the military. More of government (at every level) at war with citizens...


20 posted on 12/08/2011 9:05:01 AM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Just4Him

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008

They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps deserve) defense.

The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NATCCC, or simply the NATCs...


21 posted on 12/08/2011 9:06:25 AM PST by null and void (This is day 1052 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: WayneS
I think WayneSburg can get by with one “Bearcat” w/full complement of armaments and ammunition; three M-16s w/ 50,000 rounds of ammunition each; and three grenade launchers with 1,000 rounds each...

..Oh, and one helicopter, please.

22 posted on 12/08/2011 9:08:39 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: null and void

Well done!


23 posted on 12/08/2011 9:11:48 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Thermalseeker
Obama recently signed EO’s that allow him to seize control of all roads, waterways, rail roads, telecom infrastructure, the air traffic control system, water works, power companies, pipelines, etc., pretty much everything necessary to bring the entire country to a screeching halt at the flip of a switch.

Wow! Do you have a link?

24 posted on 12/08/2011 9:15:43 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Just4Him

At the same time they are moving to disarm us, the Department of Homeland Security, along with Obama’s allies at the higher levels of all government agencies are takinig steps to convert a “soft” tyranny into what the Venezuelans and other are facing.

A dedicated, well-armed corps of law-enforcement personnel capable of smashing ANY discontent on ANY side of a political issue - but most especially OURS.

Not that the libs should feel secure. Hitler had his Roehm purge.

This is very frightening. I have far more confidence in our military not to fire on American citizens than I do on law-enforcement personnel.


25 posted on 12/08/2011 9:20:34 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I'm going from memory here, but I think he is referring to an incident that unfolded approximately as follows:

A mid-to-late 1970s (possibly early 80s?) group of radical-black-activist types were wanted for various crimes. They holed themselves up in a couple of row house/townhouse units in a poor/ghetto part of Philly.

These were NOT nice people by any stretch of the imagination. However, instead of waiting them out, or deploying police in the specific units in which the criminals were holed-up, the Philly police dropped some kind of jury-rigged incendiary device out of a helicopter on to the row houses/townhouses. They pretty much wiped out an entire city block.

That's how I remember it, anyway.

26 posted on 12/08/2011 9:20:55 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Celerity; Buckeye McFrog

My Post #26 was supposed to be addressed to you, Celerity.

Sorry about that, Buckeye McFrog.


27 posted on 12/08/2011 9:22:53 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Iron Munro
"It is a back door tactic to circumvent the intent of the Posse Comitatus Act."

An excellent point.

28 posted on 12/08/2011 9:28:10 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Buckeye McFrog
LOL! I remember that PR disaster. They were trying to break up and arrest a group of separatist nut jobs hold up in a fortified row house. So the rocket scientists on the Philly PD came up with what looked like a home made depth charge. A 55-gallon drum filled with explosives, suspended from a PD helicopter and dropped on the roof of the building. POOF! Several city blocks went up in flames. "Think ya' used enough dynamite there, Butch?"
29 posted on 12/08/2011 9:28:52 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: arrdon
Why do I feel like I don’t have a dog in this hunt?

Because you're not an American?

30 posted on 12/08/2011 9:28:58 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: WayneS
"..Oh, and one helicopter, please. "

A three seater?

31 posted on 12/08/2011 9:31:16 AM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward
I don't know? How many people can sit in a Blackhawk?
32 posted on 12/08/2011 9:43:32 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Logical me

Ok here is whats going to happen. Either next year the Government (Obama) knows somethings up and are preparing the Civilian LE for massive chaos or civil disorder or Obama is really going to call martial law, due to any number of reasons. From Disaster to political upheaval to nuclear war. Maybe the whack job Alex Jones is right about the fema camps. With this bunch in the White Hut who knows? Or maybe 12-21-12 is the day things end and the survivors need to be kept in line.


33 posted on 12/08/2011 9:51:03 AM PST by crazydad
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To: WayneS

The group they bombed was MOVE.

They were trash, but police definitely overreacted (to put it mildly).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE


34 posted on 12/08/2011 9:52:04 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Celerity

The Philly Police were trying to evict a group of radical black Marxist squatters who had holed up inside a row of town houses. They tried to force them out by dropping a bomb from a helicopter onto the roof of their building. They started a massive fire which took out 65 homes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE

There were big investigations into this here in Pennsylvania.
Fast Eddie Rendell’s fingerprints were on it somehow as I recall.


35 posted on 12/08/2011 9:55:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fruser1

Thanks for looking that up. It looks like I was off a bit on the date of the actual bombing.


36 posted on 12/08/2011 9:56:08 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Just4Him
assault rifles, helicopters, armored vehicles, and grenade launchers ...

If you think your dog is in danger from being shot by the police now... just wait.

37 posted on 12/08/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Just4Him
The implication here is a coup d'état against the United States by those in governmental authority?

And that it is going apace right out in the open for everyone to see, which is the best place to hide anything?

38 posted on 12/08/2011 10:41:09 AM PST by hfr (Liberalism is a moral disorder that leads to mental disorder (actually it's sin))
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To: WayneS
...However, instead of waiting them out, or deploying police in the specific units in which the criminals were holed-up, the Philly police dropped some kind of jury-rigged incendiary device out of a helicopter on to the row houses/townhouses. They pretty much wiped out an entire city block...

You are correct, except that it was a bomb that they dropped to knock out a fortified installation on the roof. It started a fire from gas cans that were up there, and the result was what you recall.

Whenever there is a standoff situation, the Police try to force a conclusion by aggressive engagement (They attack) and it almost NEVER ends well (Can you say Waco?).

People always die every time it has been tried.

39 posted on 12/08/2011 12:32:07 PM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
Thanks for the additional information.

I KNEW I should not have relied solely on my increasingly-faulty memory...

;-)

40 posted on 12/08/2011 12:38:19 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: WayneS; Celerity

It was an outfit called MOVE. The Philly cops managed to do almost a million in damage IIRC.


41 posted on 12/08/2011 12:41:45 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ZULU
I don't.
They will find enough troops to do what ever they want to do.

Military follows orders. That is what they do. If they frame the orders the right way, you will get enough volunteers to take out NYC.

For instance, tell the troops that a massive virus outbreak has started, and they have take out the infected.

42 posted on 12/08/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bamahead; rabscuttle385; SunkenCiv; Travis McGee

Ping


43 posted on 12/08/2011 1:14:44 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: redgolum

“If they frame the orders the right way, you will get enough volunteers to take out NYC.”

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Now THAT might not be a bda idea!!!


44 posted on 12/08/2011 1:20:15 PM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: EdReform; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; ..
CW2 Ping


45 posted on 12/08/2011 1:21:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: arrdon

‘cuz you won’t be a hunter.
You’ll be the hunted.


46 posted on 12/08/2011 1:26:33 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Just4Him

THIS will not end well.


47 posted on 12/08/2011 1:28:54 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Travis McGee

Heck, I feel safer already. *sarcasm


48 posted on 12/08/2011 1:42:57 PM PST by stockpirate (Our republican leadership are all part of the left-wing fascist new world order movement.)
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To: Just4Him

top down...
bottom up...
inside out...

This is the piece that ends all of the above.


49 posted on 12/08/2011 1:46:34 PM PST by yantis
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To: Travis McGee

Up.


50 posted on 12/08/2011 1:55:23 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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