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Live Thread: Iowa GOP Presidential Debate 9 P.M. EST/ 6 P.M. PST 12/10/11 on ABC Television
Saturday, December 10, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/10/2011 3:43:05 PM PST by kristinn

Where: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa.

When: 9 p.m. EST, 6 p.m. PST, Saturday, December 10, 2011. Debate scheduled to last two hours.

Broadcast on: ABC Televsion.

Moderators: Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos.

Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: debate; elections; gop; iowa; iowagopdebate
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To: katiedidit1
Newt's changed - asked for forgiveness... There's a point in life where we let it go. Clinton never felt remorse - and lied under oath - trashing a young defenseless girl. Newt never did those things.

Also, Newt he has the insight, intelligence, and know-how to get things done. I fear the next few years are going to be very difficult for the country - we need someone tough. Newt's tough.

1,321 posted on 12/11/2011 1:18:23 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: parksstp
Hey, what do you know, I was essentially right.

Indeed you were. I began wondering if you worked for ABC or one of the campaigns as your predictions were almost spot on.

Santorum surprised me as well as he wasn't as whiny as he's been in the past and answered what was asked. As for Bachman, frankly I was greatful we didn't hear much from her in the second hour. As I said previously on this thread, to listen to her boast of her accomplishment makes me wonder if she will next announce she can walk on water. You said no one acknowledged her in the final question which I hadn't noticed. What I did notice was her only acknowledging Cain, refusing to recognize merit in the others. She's a smart cookie and by doing so, she's hoping to garner his supporters. Even with that, I don't believe she stands a chance nor does Santorum.

1,322 posted on 12/11/2011 1:54:21 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Grunthor

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1,323 posted on 12/11/2011 2:07:11 PM PST by Grunthor (We donÂ’t LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: kabar
Oh, and by the way:

Not analogous....North Korea, Iraq, and Iran were our enemies.

And guess what..they still are!

Furthermore...Hamas IS Iran.

1,324 posted on 12/11/2011 2:20:08 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Grunthor

You wrote: “....Should Perry win, at least the debates with Newt will have sharpened his skill enough to at least TRY not to sound like a complete idiot next to Obama.”

Interesting comment here:)

Republican Debate Live Blog Transcript: Des Moines Iowa ABC Yahoo Debate Saturday December 10th, 2011
http://hillbuzz.org/republican-debate-live-blog-transcript-des-moines-iowa-abc-yahoo-debate-saturday-december-10th-2011-2011
Posted on December 10, 2011 by Kevin DuJan

[snip]

In the few minutes I have before the debate starts, I think it’s a good time to run through my thoughts on each of the candidates and what I expect from them tonight:

[snip]

Rick Perry: The “Strong” ad was a breaking point for me with Perry, but not in the way you might first think. I don’t care if Perry doesn’t want gays serving in the military ­ there have been gays in the military since the military was founded, and the matter is now settled so it’s truly beyond foolish for a Republican candidate to keep bringing it up. It’s also incredibly foolish for Perry to make an anti-gay TV ad while dressed up like one of the guys from Brokeback Mountain. That jacket he wore in the “Strong” ad is a dead-ringer for the one Heath Ledger wore as gay cowboy Ennis in Brokeback.

I now conclude that Rick Perry is an irredeemable doofus for setting himself up for the merciless parodies the Gaystapo is churning out against him on YouTube and Facebook.

A Republican candidate for president just cannot be this oblivious, ill-informed, and downright STUPID. A serious Republican presidential candidate should not need to be told that dressing up as an iconic character from a gay movie is not the best way to wardrobe himself in an anti-gay ad his campaign filmed out of sheer desperation to gin up a little hatred and get himself a new round of attention before the Iowa Caucuses.

You know what else is a pretty popular gay movie? To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything Julie Newmar. Which of those characters will Perry be dressing up as for his next Iowa ad? I bet if he picks the Patrick Swayze one, maybe he’ll score some points from still-mourning fans the way Jennifer Grey did when she was on Dancing with the Stars last year.

Perry supporters keep saying that “this is the last dumb thing he’ll do” or “just give him a chance and he’ll prove he’s not a complete doofus”. Well, he’s had more chances than most people, and he keeps proving how truly stupid he is on all sorts of levels. This guy is Texas toast with scrambled eggs for brains.

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1,325 posted on 12/11/2011 3:43:51 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: presently no screen name

In my defense my post took a long time to show up for whatever reason

Perhaps because you are a newbie or retread?

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Not sure why you sent this to me.

When many are posting on a LIVE thread, the heavy number of posts often delays the time posts are visible.

I am not a newbie.....I’ve been her since 7/2/98


1,326 posted on 12/11/2011 4:16:55 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ...means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: JulieRNR21

“I don’t knock other candidates ...my enemy is Obama!”

We agree on that. I’m just trying to size up our best bets.

ANYBODY is better than Obama.


1,327 posted on 12/11/2011 4:37:22 PM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Bush 43 was the first President to adopt the two state solution as official US policy.


1,328 posted on 12/11/2011 5:00:47 PM PST by kabar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Iraq is no longer an enemy. We have diplomatic relations with Iraq but not Iran or North Korea. Our embassy in Iraq is the largest in the world in terms of number of people assigned.


1,329 posted on 12/11/2011 5:04:01 PM PST by kabar
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To: GOPJ

Well stated:)


1,330 posted on 12/11/2011 5:23:37 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: kabar
Iraq is no longer an enemy.

Oh sure, they deny immunity to our troops, they're murdering Christians...the second we leave, they become Iran...great ally.

1,331 posted on 12/11/2011 5:33:28 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: kabar
Bush 43 was the first President to adopt the two state solution as official US policy.

Regardless, it's a stupid idea.

1,332 posted on 12/11/2011 5:36:18 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: presently no screen name

Whatever you say shortbus.


1,333 posted on 12/11/2011 5:41:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JulieRNR21
I am not a newbie....I’ve been her since 7/2/98

Then you should have been able to assume it wasn't directed AT you because it was sent TO you and know enough to look to see who it was directed out.
1,334 posted on 12/11/2011 5:58:51 PM PST by presently no screen name (If it's not in God's Word, don't pass it off as truth! That's satan's job.)
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To: jwalsh07

I see Mitt’s derogatory traits are rubbing off on you.


1,335 posted on 12/11/2011 6:02:19 PM PST by presently no screen name (If it's not in God's Word, don't pass it off as truth! That's satan's job.)
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To: ntnychik
I thought Perry did great too, in fact he has done well in the last 3 debates but few give him credit. I see a lot of good comments on this thread about him though.

I thought Fig-Newton had a ‘so so’ night, he didn't do anything outstanding. Guess we got used to him really hitting back at the moderators.

1,336 posted on 12/11/2011 6:11:35 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: presently no screen name

Whatever!


1,337 posted on 12/11/2011 8:48:09 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ...means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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