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Newt Gingrich Responds To Glenn Beck (He doesn't deny being a progressive)
WGIR AM 610 and 96.7 the Wave with Host Paul Westcott ^ | December 12th | Newt Gingrich(Audio)

Posted on 12/12/2011 9:09:39 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

when you're talking about Glenn Beck now he actually, the other day, called you a progressive on FOX Business channel. What do you say to that sort of claim?"

Gingrich: "I don't know. It depends on what standard you're using, you know? The fact is I balanced the budget for four consecutive years. And we did so by cutting taxes and increasing employment so people went back to work, they left welfare, they left food stamps, they left unemployment, they left Medicaid. Who else has that record of achievement? I worked with Reagan in '79, '80. I worked with Reagan in defeating the Soviet Empire. I think those are relatively conservative credentials."

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To: dangus

I actually like a lot of Paul’s ideas & thoughts. However, his followers are so rabid & so determined to use any means, whether ethical or not, that I’m just completely turned off by the man.

I’ll vote for the man if he wins the nomination (not likely) but it won’t be fun walking by the loons that support him.


51 posted on 12/12/2011 11:12:09 AM PST by Confab
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

His accomplishments speak for themselves. Cutting taxes, cutting the deficit, balancing the budget, reducing unemployment, blocking socialist programs, etc, are all conservative accomplishments and are all things we desperately need to do today!


52 posted on 12/12/2011 12:08:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
A progressive/leftist Pubbie (aka RINO) in the spirit of TR?

Yes, by Newt's own admission:

"But I am more in the Alexander Hamilton-Teddy Roosevelt tradition of conservatism. I recognize that there are times when you need government to help spur private enterprise and economic development."

Teddy Roosevelt was not a conservative, and Alexander Hamilton was a monarchist and proponent of Big Government.

53 posted on 12/12/2011 12:27:28 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: BigBobber

Newt is a progressive republican. Deal with it. His actions and words in recent years show he is a progressive republican. He is not a conservative.


54 posted on 12/12/2011 12:29:57 PM PST by CSI007
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Oh come on - that was a loaded question - NOT denying something is NOT affirming the statement to be true. If he was a real “progressive”, the MSM would be pushing him.


55 posted on 12/12/2011 12:30:22 PM PST by Baladas
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To: rabscuttle385
You really really need to go a read a book on Alexander Hamilton! Hamilton was NOT a Monarchist!
Read the one by Forrest McDonald. I like you believed all the “pop American history” I was taught in secondary school which put a halo on Jefferson & horns on Hamilton. If you read McDonald's book and read accounts of Washington's administration Jefferson doesn’t come out all that admirable. Hamilton comes out of that story a tragic (and flawed!) hero.
56 posted on 12/12/2011 12:39:37 PM PST by Reily
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The newest Ad from the Ron Paul Campaign against Gingrich Ouch!
57 posted on 12/12/2011 12:43:01 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I would certainly categorically refute it instead of playing the word games that progressives always play.

Hard to do when he admitted he was a Teddy Roosevelt Progressive, he just haggled on which era of Teddy's presidency his philosophy rightly belonged in.

58 posted on 12/12/2011 12:45:01 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I agree that Newt effectively refuted Beck with his response.

Strange, I agree that Newt effectively affirmed Beck's assertion with his response.

59 posted on 12/12/2011 12:51:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: CSI007

“Newt is a progressive republican. Deal with it.”

Newt will win the nomination. Deal with that.

If Newt is a progressive.

Romney is a Socialist.

...and Obama is a communist.

So, you prefer the Socialist or the Communist?


60 posted on 12/12/2011 12:54:16 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I was listening this morning when Beck called Newt a progressive and either shortly before or shortly after said that if he had to vote “TODAY” he’d vote for Romney.

Now how in the hell does THAT makes ANY sense?


61 posted on 12/12/2011 12:55:24 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Newt's not a progressive and there ought to be a place for Alexander Hamilton in American conservatism, but when even David "National Greatness Hamilton-TR Conservatism" Brooks says Gingrich is too much of a big government guy you have to wonder.
62 posted on 12/12/2011 12:56:33 PM PST by x
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I agree. It wasn’t until I actually researched Teddy Roosevelt, a progressive, that I realized how much I did not like the man’s politics. He is nearly as responsible as FDR and Woodrow Wilson for the mess we are in today. Republican ‘progressives’ are the doormen of the devil that is our modern left. They make possible what the left by itself could never accomplish on its own.


63 posted on 12/12/2011 12:59:15 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Grunthor

“Now how in the hell does THAT makes ANY sense?”

Yeah Beck is a hypocrite. He sees all of these flaws with each conservative, but Romney is just fine.

He is supporting Romney because he is a Mormon.

It’s just as simple as that.


64 posted on 12/12/2011 1:00:12 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: big'ol_freeper; nikos1121
Yes, Beck has endorsed Romney. Piss on both of them.

You lie! He has done no such thing.

65 posted on 12/12/2011 1:01:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: txrangerette

I shouldn’t have used the word Perrybot cuz that caused my comment to be misunderstood.
I meant to say that I am impressed with Rick lately, unhappy with the others and looking for Perry fans on FR. That’s all.


66 posted on 12/12/2011 1:05:23 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("My core is not up for grabs". El Rushbo 12/06/11)
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To: McGruff; Halfmanhalfamazing

Reviewing your recent posting history all it is comprised of is negative attacks.

If not Newt who then? And why?


Hmm. Three hours and no response? Perhaps “half” hasn’t made up his mind whom to support in this nomination process.....and just finds it much more fun and easy to attack, rather than to support.


67 posted on 12/12/2011 1:07:40 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: dangus

You’re right, dangus. I overreacted without having proof.
The word progressive makes me batty.


68 posted on 12/12/2011 1:09:25 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("My core is not up for grabs". El Rushbo 12/06/11)
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To: Grunthor
if he had to vote “TODAY” he’d vote for Romney.

Try listening to complete sentences. He said if it came down to Obama or Romney he would vote for Romney, and I would bet that most freepers would do exactly that, just like we did for McCain.

69 posted on 12/12/2011 1:09:54 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: All

up on Drudge ...Beck says he’d consider voting Ron Paul in 3rd party over Gingrich...this guy has lost his damn fool mind


70 posted on 12/12/2011 1:11:59 PM PST by thestob (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you)
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To: Mountain Mary

understood it was a shorthand way to make your point, and to be honest, it might look like I directed that disclaimer comment to you, but I was raally disclaiming it to annoy those who namecall like that.

We are still here. We don’t infest other threads very much compared to how many of us are on pro Perry threads.

But I, for one, do occasionally drop by other threads.


71 posted on 12/12/2011 1:12:39 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: rbmillerjr

“He is supporting Romney because he is a Mormon.”

I have yet to meet anyone that supports Romney that is not a Mormon. It;s all hypocritical. If you took Romneys’ flips and flops and issues positions then and now, and attached them to any other candidate....no Mormon would support them.

This and the penchant they have for calling themselves “Christian” are about the only things that really bug me about the Mormons.


72 posted on 12/12/2011 1:15:36 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Mountain Mary

You can put me on a Perry ping list if there is one.


73 posted on 12/12/2011 1:17:17 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("My core is not up for grabs". El Rushbo 12/06/11)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt’s reply was GREAT!

The tag of “progressive” has been hijacked by the left and ignores its true meaning:

“Promoting or favoring progress toward better conditions or new policies, ideas, or methods”

Progress is whatever the speaker wants it to be. Moving toward tradition values is progress to most of us here at FR.

And, Beck jumped the shark when he left Fox and became Romney’s surrogate.

We are in this together, folks....


74 posted on 12/12/2011 1:18:37 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

“tradition” should be “traditional”
Sorry.


75 posted on 12/12/2011 1:20:49 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: rbmillerjr

I know it looks like he will win the nomination. And the conservative base will vote third party or stay home. 4 more years of Obama.

Conservatives are tired of being told to roll over for these weak, progressive and lame candidates. This is the GOPs last chance to save country and party. A tsunami is coming and they will be swept away simply because they elect to support progressive and big government ideas. NO MORE.


76 posted on 12/12/2011 1:21:18 PM PST by CSI007
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To: thestob

Beck has carved out an anti Republican, anti Democrat niche. Over a period of time. He’s being consistent with that.

He thinks Newt is a Progressive at heart and thinks Paul isn’t, although he disagrees with Paul on several issues.

This says he would consider it. Not he would do it.

For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t vote for Paul under any conceivable scenario...


77 posted on 12/12/2011 1:23:11 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Mountain Mary

I don’t have the ping list but will see to it that you get with who does have it.


78 posted on 12/12/2011 1:25:28 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: rbmillerjr

Beck is not supporting Romney. This is an out and out lie.

Beck wants the most conservative available. He is leaning bachman and santorum right now. He is against romney,, Perry and newt because they are all establishment republicans that have or are supporting radical left wing agendas in one form or another.


79 posted on 12/12/2011 1:25:44 PM PST by CSI007
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To: CSI007

“And the conservative base will vote third party or stay home. 4 more years of Obama.”

WRONG.

Conservatives will vote for Gingrich because he is a conservative, albeit a flawed one.

The only people who will stay home will be the 1% of Third Party people and about 2-3% (about half) of the Paulists. Some of them are sane and will vote Gingrich, knowing that a vote for Paul is putting Obama in.


80 posted on 12/12/2011 1:27:59 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Nextrush

Agreed! The pro-Newt crowd is pretty ruthless here in its defense of him and their unashamed ability to throw venom at those who don’t like him. Beck’s reasoning is off but he’s right in the fact that Newt is no conservative. Someone who says that free speech should be curtailed to protect the people is not a conservative.


81 posted on 12/12/2011 1:39:49 PM PST by eak3
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To: rbmillerjr

Newt is a progressive he is not conservative. I just don’t understand why many of FR care not to see what is plainly in their sight. You people need to open your eyes and quite playing politics.

Even if newt beat Obama our country will fail under his leadership. The time for electing republicans simply because they are Republicans is not good enough anymore. We need solid social and economic conservatives that support the founding fathers principles and our constitution. A slight tick right won’t help us when the left has dragged us so far to the left. Newt already said he would support parts of Obama’s health plan and if we don’t eliminate that whole thing we are totally screwed right out the gate.


82 posted on 12/12/2011 1:39:54 PM PST by CSI007
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Great, I can vote for the Progressive Obama or the Progressive Grinch.

Deck is fully stacked, have a happy voting day.

Progressives are traitors and should be run out of the country for the damage they have done. Anybody that likes the idea of a New World Order is a progressive traitor. Republican and Democrat mean pretty much nothing these days. One party is Marxist Mafia goons trying to destroy the Constitution, the other is Congressional Mafia goons trying to do the same.


83 posted on 12/12/2011 1:41:33 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: CSI007

Gingrich is the last conservative standing.

Only he and Romney are left...you support Romney?


84 posted on 12/12/2011 1:43:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: itsahoot

I didn’t for McCain, I won’t for Romney.


85 posted on 12/12/2011 1:49:02 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: rbmillerjr

You mean he and romney are the last two progressives standing? I see two real conservatives in the race and its not newt and its not Romney or Perry.

George W Bush is more conservative than newt and that’s not saying much.


86 posted on 12/12/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by CSI007
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To: cripplecreek
Conservatives will see their mistake about a week after the nomination.

I don't like the current situation at all. I'm not a fan of the current front runners

I do know this however. Obama CANNOT be allowed 4 more years.

Conservatives, the left has destroyed our best hopes. We have lost that battle for now. We must NOT also lose the war.

Goal number 1 - defeat Obama. Fix the rest later.

87 posted on 12/12/2011 1:53:12 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Gingrich will collapse once he gets the nomination. That’s just the way it is.


88 posted on 12/12/2011 1:58:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: CSI007

You’re an ankle biter, but you won’t say who you support...

You a Romney supporter or a Paulist nut?


89 posted on 12/12/2011 1:59:14 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What hubris! Newt taking credit for all of Reagan’s achievements.

The man is a megalomaniac.


90 posted on 12/12/2011 2:03:20 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: rbmillerjr

I am leaning towards michelle bachman right now. But it really doesn’t matter. I want to support the most conservative candidate out there and newt is not that person.

Not sure how you think I support romney, the man also a progressive republican and I don’t support progressive republicans.

I saw this same crap 3 years ago with McCain. I came out against him here and i will come out against those like him here every time. Newt is no better and he wo rks with the other side when it helps his cause.


91 posted on 12/12/2011 2:03:48 PM PST by CSI007
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To: Palladin

“Newt taking credit for all of Reagan’s achievements.”

Umm No. He never said any such thing lol.

He’s talking about his achievements as Speaker, where he balanced the budget, got limited tax cuts from Clinton, welfare to workfare, etc.

Clinton was dragged kicking and screaming into all of that stuff, but the GOP got it done with Gingrich as Speaker.


92 posted on 12/12/2011 2:07:39 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Mountain Mary

Newt the Flip-Flopper:

Five months after refusing to sign an Iowa conservative group’s controversial “Marriage Vow,” GOP presidential front-runner Newt Gingrich has endorsed the pledge by promising to push a sweeping conservative social agenda, Politico reported.

In a lengthy email to the group, The Family Leader, Gingrich vowed to fight for a host of key right wing issues, including a constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage and a Reagan-era policy that would stop tax dollars from funding abortions overseas.

The former House Speaker also vowed to remain faithful to his wife, Callista.

“I also pledge to uphold the institution of marriage through personal fidelity to my spouse and respect for the marital bonds of others,” Gingrich said in the message.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/newt-gingrich-endorses-iowa-group-family-leader-marriage-pledge-article-1.990431#ixzz1gMO5EAAr


93 posted on 12/12/2011 2:09:06 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: shield

Wow! Powerful! And every word is true.


94 posted on 12/12/2011 2:13:32 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: Grunthor

Lesser of two evils.


95 posted on 12/12/2011 2:16:17 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: MindBender26

“Your use of half-truths is a clear indication that you are either another spoiled crybaby Conservative, “Oh Waaaaa. That candidate is not conservative ENOUGH!” or a DU troll who wants us to ignore the record.”

When Newt loses to Obama, which he will if nominated, there will be only one difference between those of us who opposed his candidacy and those of you who supported it. WE will still have our integrity.


96 posted on 12/12/2011 2:19:17 PM PST by COgamer
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To: vbmoneyspender
Conservatives are the real progressives. We want the United States to progress by adopting conservative principles.

Um, no. That's not what progressives mean by progressivism. Progressivism fundimentally is utopianism at its core and developed from the idea of Social Darwinism -- that man would evolve into a more civilized being through social pressures. Progressives took it a step further: Why wait? Why not force "progress"? The end of this is, obviously, concentration camps and gas chambers.

97 posted on 12/12/2011 2:23:14 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: COgamer

No, you will be the same loser-troll you are now.


98 posted on 12/12/2011 2:23:50 PM PST by MindBender26 (Stop bothering me with minor issues. I'm too damn busy trying to save our country from Obamaism)
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To: Palladin

Unlike the other ankle biters, you at least have the courage to state who you support.

Having said that, Santorum doesn’t even have the political acumen, at 3% of the vote, to stop attacking his old friend Gingrich. Being from Pa., he would have at least been given a shot to be a VP...but now he is just politically dead.


99 posted on 12/12/2011 2:28:35 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Beck is saying that there’s no difference between Obama and Newt—and has thus passed into dickweed territory as far as I’m concerned.


100 posted on 12/12/2011 2:29:16 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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