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Jim Robinson: Taking stock of our dwindling conservative inventory
Jan 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:23:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Tea party favorite and pro-life conservative Sarah Palin and her family were viciously attacked to the point she chose not to run.

Congressional Tea Party Caucus leader and constitutional pro-life conservative Michele Bachmann had early promise, but I guess came across as too "shrill" and consequently her numbers driven down to the point she exited.

Successful pro-life conservative Texas Governor Perry hit the race at the top but due to missteps and less than stellar debate performances soon fizzled and is now all but gone.

Pro-life conservative businessman Cain and his famous 9-9-9 plan had promise, but was driven out due to indefensible allegations.

Pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative Newt Gingrich reinvigorated his campaign and soared to the top of the national polls, but was unacceptable to the establishment and apparently also unacceptable to the "true conservatives" among us and his numbers are now plummeting

You'd think "unquestionably" pro-life, pro-family conservative Rick Santorum whose recent surge took him to a tie in Iowa and who's now surging in the national polls might be good enough to stand against Romney for the base, but looks like there are "true conservatives" now attacking HIM as not good enough.

Well, drive them all out and who's left?

Huntsman? Who? Moonbat Paul?

Ideas anyone? Should we all continue attacking the conservatives we don't like until we drive them all out?

Personally, I could easily have lived with Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Newt or Santorum and would be proud to enthusiastically support any of them, warts and all. Any one of them is infinitely better than Obama or Romney.

But if we don't land on one soon and raise him up over Romney, guess who we're going to be stuck with? And it ain't going to be pretty. And if abortionist/statist/progressive Romney (or moonbat Paul) is the one, might as well get used to four more years of Obama. I won't vote for or support either one of those two.

I'd suggest that we all stop trying to tear down the other conservative candidates in the race and instead concentrate on trying to build up our own personal favorites. Who knows? May even discover an acceptable conservative (if not a great conservative) in the bunch. We've never had a perfect conservative yet. Not even the magnificent Ronald Reagan. We and they all have warts.

But we do want to have a candidate with at least an actual CONSERVATIVE record and not an out and out liberal progressive RINO. So let's compare their records and their actual conservative accomplishments but not try to destroy them personally.

God bless and may the best CONSERVATIVE be our nominee.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; eleventhcommandment; gingrich; jimrobinson; newt
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To: TomasUSMC

Wow. That puts things in perspective. I hope all of us take that attitude from here on out. I’m going to share your comment with the freepathon team. They’ll appreciate it.


601 posted on 01/06/2012 11:06:14 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm,

A fence along the Texas portion of the border is not feasible. We have the Rio Grand as our border. The official border runs straight down the middle of the river.

We can’t build a fence on the Mexican side of the Rio because it’s not our property and we can’t maintain it. Putting a fence on our side of the Rio cedes land and water to Mexico. The Rio is an important water source for agriculture down there.

That is why Perry does not support/promote a fence along every inch of the border. Candidates who do are fools and do not understand the logistics of the Texas border. A fence along other than the Texas border can be done - and Perry does support that.


602 posted on 01/06/2012 11:48:05 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

;)


603 posted on 01/06/2012 12:09:34 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney is like Forrest Gump’s box of chocolates: You never know what you’re gonna get.


604 posted on 01/06/2012 12:11:25 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Jim Robinson

From your lips to God’s Ears, Jim!

Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.


605 posted on 01/06/2012 12:29:58 PM PST by left that other site
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To: freedomrings69

That’s like saying a kick in the stomach is better than a kick in the jimmies, i.e. technically true but its still gonna hurt.


606 posted on 01/06/2012 12:54:11 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Jim Robinson

Watching the candidates getting chopped up on FR is an tired, old sight. I see no indication it is going to stop until Romney is the candidate.

Purging all contrary opinion won’t help but will only weaken FR perhaps fatally and besides opinions must be in conflict in a healthy society. If we want to watch group-thought in action we can always go to DU.

The question is “how will people recognize that the vast majority of Americans are not as conservative as we like?” No matter what they claim they have filled Congress with NON-conservatives. So expecting a conservative who is our first choice to get the nomination, much less win, is folly.

I mean, my God, they elected one of the biggest frauds with NO achievements of value in the history of our Republic just three yrs ago. This indicates mental illness on a massive scale.


607 posted on 01/06/2012 1:24:29 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Domestic Church; Jim Robinson; All

“If we tally all “actual” but Romney’s count then we can present all of that as anti Romney and present Santorum as a real win. The more this is done in commentary to the media the more the message gets out. If this becomes a general response across the net we’ve just ‘meme’d Romney to the 2nd place. We can all do this easily as we browse the net and media websites this week.

We just need to get a wordsmith to get the gist down so we all pretty much type the same meme to be.”

Maybe that would be a way for Newt and Santorum to team up - in every poll or debate going forward, compare their ‘combined anti-Romney total’ to Romney’s total.

I think we need to start using every excuse to throw in the term ‘anti’Romney’ about vote totals, voter sentiment, in every forum, or posting, or conversation.


608 posted on 01/06/2012 1:24:47 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Lazlo in PA

How does a guy with no political base (thanks to “conservatives”) win the presidency? It may not be impossible but has never happened. And I love Santorum.


609 posted on 01/06/2012 1:27:58 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Windflier

I have been ignoring THAT cheerleader for another candidate for a longtime... lets join in the ignoring part ;)

The individual definitely needs to look in a mirror though when making those accusations :p


610 posted on 01/06/2012 1:38:10 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Jim Robinson

If Newt is not the nominee I doubt I vote. I don’t have any other candidate that I like. Probably not popular but how I feel. Give Obama 4 more and be done with it.


611 posted on 01/06/2012 2:00:23 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back

If Romney gets the nomination, he’d probably beat Obama but would not substantially change DC (he is too centrist) and only slow down the country’s decline.

If Santorum gets the nomination, he’d probably beat Obama and would make substantial change and substantially slow down the decline, possibly reverse it overtime. Santorum doesn’t care what people think if it goes to his core principles.

I don’t think Gingrich could beat Obama. Too many of my conservative friends say they simply couldn’t vote for him with all the personal baggage and hypocrisy. Plus, I think he is too worried about his place in “history” and would be too accomadative to the media.


612 posted on 01/06/2012 2:21:17 PM PST by disraeligears (How was the CREAM Madison Square Garden Concert?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ideas anyone? Should we all continue attacking the conservatives we don't like until we drive them all out?

Hell no. The GOP needs to continue the debate about conservatism though if it wants to gain independents rather than lose them more slowly than the Democrats. Candidates need to keep in mind that if they are not on the side of the MSM, any ad hominem that they resort to will be broadcast everywhere by the press, and it will alienate voters in the long run. Save it for the one person we know that wecan't reason with: Barack Obama.

Reality show political discourse is meant to advance the career of one candidate at the expense of his party, and that isn't what we want. There is no perfect candidate, but you have to question the sincerity and judgement of firebrands who bring grenades to every debate; whose side are they really on? Likewise, people here shouldn't act like every debate, primary, and caucus is the general election. It isn't. Even if Obama is trounced by Santorum in November, we won't be out of the rough patch we're in.

Failure to understand this is going to reelect Obama and successors who are even worse than him. We can't allow that to happen.
613 posted on 01/06/2012 2:43:52 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: Jim Robinson
Just give me one who will support, defend, return to and " prosecute those who have stepped on” the Constitution.
614 posted on 01/06/2012 2:49:05 PM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would rather see Santorum/Gingrich. Newt is a little too snooty but would be good behind the scenes.


615 posted on 01/06/2012 2:54:29 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I have to say it; the in-your-face, upfront and center, Christian faith, of the Rick Santorum Catholic variety, makes me feel uneasy. I'm retired and in my 60's and was always taught to have quiet humility in matters of faith. It's just the way I was brought up. When people loudly toot their own horn about some character trait, or business acumen, I've found over the years that it is usually a veil for the opposite.

From "Radio Derb", NRO, 6 Jan 12.......

"Let us not forget that the Catholic Church is, for a significant part, of the liberal-left establishment. With the exception of abortion and euthanasia, on all other social and political issues, the Catholic Church is well outside the center of the conservative/liberal rift.

"On wealth redistribution, immigration, national sovereignty, globalization, welfare, the death penalty, 2nd Amendment rights, the Catholic Church is more liberal than Teddy Kennedy, or Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden...to name just three of the Church's congregants. Even more troubling, in a recent encyclical, the Pope called for World Government, which to be quite honest, scares the heck out of me.

"To say that individual Catholics, like Newt or Rick, may actually reside further to the right of doctrine, should they wish, neglects the fact that Catholics are leaning into a fierce headwind by going against the Church on such issues." ---Radio Derb, NRO, 6 Jan 12

How could one not be nervous about this?

I have a confession. I've never been so confused or worried by an election, and still haven't picked a candidate. With each week's news, I seem to be shifting in the breeze of daily negative revelations. Never-the-less, put me down, shakily, for Newt.....well, today anyway.

(Transcript above is my own, apologies for paraphrasing in some places)

616 posted on 01/06/2012 2:56:19 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Scooter100
With the exception of abortion and euthanasia, on all other social and political issues, the Catholic Church is well outside the center of the conservative/liberal rift.

True dat.

617 posted on 01/06/2012 2:57:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TomasUSMC

Asking your permission to use this where appropriate....good stuff.... and puts all things in perspective concerning our candidates.


618 posted on 01/06/2012 2:58:12 PM PST by caww
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To: wolfpat
Romney is like Forrest Gump’s box of chocolates: You never know what you’re gonna get.

I disagree, you know exactly what you're going to get: a big-government, pro-abortion, pro-gay socialist.

619 posted on 01/06/2012 2:59:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
The single biggest threat is Obamacare.

Yes...if it doesn't get stopped no doubt the nation will fall completely over time. We cannot support it, Dr.s can't doctor under it and the finacial and regulations imposed will finish this nation off.

This administration is doing all it can with or without approval of our representatives...and now obama's going into full campaign mode he's going to give the communists, muslims, and all who once were minorities everything they want and he'll do so by appointing those to head the agency's etc. that can get the job done for him.

I'm very much afraid it may even be too late to wait til the election....he's going to ramrod everything he can thru now.

620 posted on 01/06/2012 3:05:09 PM PST by caww
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