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Posted on 01/31/2012 6:43:27 PM PST by RobinMasters
An attorney who presented evidence to a Georgia judge last week on Barack Obama’s eligibility for the state’s 2012 presidential ballot believes she now has a right to demand to see his original Hawaii documents.
Obama last April released what he said was a copy of his original Hawaii birth documentation, but a number of imaging, document and computer experts contend it is a fraud.
The original birth documentation could undermine Obama’s claim to be a “natural-born citizen,” as the Constitution requires. Many of his critics, however, say the birth documentation doesn’t matter, because Obama’s father never was a U.S. citizen. The Founders likely understood “natural-born citizen” to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens.
Now California attorney Orly Taitz, who has brought a number of major legal challenges to Obama’s eligibility in various courts up to the U.S. Supreme Court, has told WND that when Obama and his lawyer wrote a letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp last week refusing to attend the hearing on Obama’s eligibility status, they included a copy of the image that the White House released last April.
They also sent a copy to the court of Judge Michael Malihi, the hearing officer, whose ruling is expected to be made available in the next few days.
That act, Taitz explained, effectively gave the court a copy of the White House documentation, and under ordinary rules of evidence the opposing side is supposed to have access to the original to verify the authenticity of the purported copy.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Stand by...
“Whatever obozo submitted to the court is deemed legal.”
He doesn’t get to backdoor information.
Hell, he could send a copy to the judges’ home address it should have no weight since it wasn’t presented in court as a response to the ballot challenge from one of the plaintiffs where the plaintiff could challenge it’s authenticity.
A few more dominoes will fall.
I applaud WND for saying on top of this. The skeptics who have been labeled as ‘birthers’ are intimidated by the DNC media for a reason. With any luck we’ll know why someday.
Men are easily corruptible. Documents easily forged.
Inalienable truths are self-evident.
I don't..B.Hussein O. has made sure there will be no evidence of any original ANYTHING..especially after his Presidential term ends. more than likely all the school and college records are gone and all the Chicago info regarding his political career, that information will also be gone. ..the guy is a crooked creep...
and today I am laughing my ass off as the Democrats try to scam their way out of Fast and Furious. what a great country we have become!
In the interest of “fairness” - I’d also like to see the following Obama documents -
2) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
3) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
4) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
5) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
6) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
7) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
8) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.
(These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
9) Columbia College records — not released
10) Columbia senior thesis — not released
11) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
12) Obama’s law client list — sealed
13) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
14) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
15) Obama’s medical records — not released
16) Obama’s passport records — not released
The will not recognize a subpoena from Georgia as binding on Hawaii. The only way around this Might be that section of Hawaiian law that says they will provide one under the correct legal circumstances.(If requested by Officials of other states for Legitimate and necessary purposes, or some such) Even so, I think that only applies to ordinary privacy regarding birth certificates. If Obama's is sealed by court order, (which I believe it to be.) even the Hawaiian law won't be able to pry it loose.
There is no “original”.
DiogenesLamp: “The will not recognize a subpoena from Georgia as binding on Hawaii”
But what about the possibility that Obama be compelled to produce the COLB? Doesn’t Obama have the right/ability to get the documents from Hawaii?
Since Obama submitted his fake birth certificate as proof of his citizenship (through Jablonski), I would think he could be required to provide verification of that submission...
WND + ORLY = FICTION
mrsmith, Judge Malihi’s findings will not be a default judgement. That may be what Obama and his desperate attorneys were hoping for but it isn’t happening. The judge has been and will be considering the evidence submitted, the law and legal arguments made in the case as he arrives at his judgements.
IMHO the reason the Obamamites didn’t attend is because they will be unable to introduce their “evidence” without risk of perjury. They don’t have that risk when they just go around throwing so called evidence over the wall and saying “here’s the proof”. But in a legal setting, for each piece of evidence being introduced, they’d have to have someone sworn in and attest that the item of evidence was authentic and be subject to cross examination.
It’s very important that we support challenges to Obama’s eligibility in each state where such challenges arise. Should ANY court in this great country find that a “submitted” Obama birth certificate is a forgery, all hell would break out and the house of cards and lies that Obama has built will begin to collapse. Obama and his collaborators have A LOT of things that they are hiding.
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There are two possible routes to supremes. Defendant or plaintiff appeals.
If Plaintiffs lose, they will appeal. Then the documents are in play.
If Defendants lose , this is the wild card. The big question is, will the team for the communist Muslim appeal to Georgia Supremes? Or will they take their losses and move on.
Sheriff Joe is due to report his findings any day now.
I suspect Team Mohammed Soebarkah will not appeal.
Beware the ides of March, Soebarkah.
You may find this answer strange, but my answer is "Not necessarily."
I and others suspect Obama's birth certificate is sealed by a court order because Obama was likely adopted in his past, possibly twice. There is some evidence to indicate he was adopted by Indonesian Step-Dad Lolo Soetoro. There is also evidence to indicate he was later Adopted by his Grandparents in 1971. If EITHER case or BOTH cases turn out to be true, his original birth document will have been sealed by the order of a Hawaiian State court.
If his birth certificate IS sealed by a Hawaiian court, Not even HE can access it without getting a Hawaiian court to unseal it. Believe me, I know exactly what I am talking about.
I was adopted, and I recently called My State's DOH to see what I had to do to get a copy of my ORIGINAL birth certificate. They told me I had to write them a letter requesting it, and after six weeks they would inform me what I had to do to get a copy of my original. I asked them why they couldn't just tell me right now what I needed to do, and they said they had to consider it first and then tell me in writing.
I had always been told before that to get a sealed birth certificate unsealed, you had to petition a court to unseal it.
Fortunately, I HAVE a copy of my Original birth certificate, as well as a copy of my current birth certificate, so it was just an exercise in learning more about the process for me.
So I guess you could say that Obama does have the ability to get at his original record, but it is definitely not automatic.
Since Obama submitted his fake birth certificate as proof of his citizenship (through Jablonski), I would think he could be required to provide verification of that submission...
Exactly, and that's where we have him. No one can pry it out of Hawaii except Federal Judges, Hawaiian State Judges, and Obama. The other states do not have a right to see it, but they have a right to refuse to put someone on the ballot if they don't see it. Since Obama is coming to them for ballot placement, he has to conform to their requirements, and if the requirement is to show an ORIGINAL birth certificate, Obama will have to comply or stay off the ballot.
Now the first two cases in Georgia are not based on Obama's failure to present a birth certificate. They are based on the principle that a "natural born citizen" is a citizen which is born on the soil to parents who are also citizens. They are using Obama's posted birth certificate as evidence that his father was not an American and therefore he cannot be a natural born citizen.
I personally think there is a good chance he can't even prove he is a "native born" citizen.
I really doubt a Georgia administrative court has jurisdiction to compel Hawaii to do anything. Orly thinks this is a trial - it is not. It is a administrative hearing.
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