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A Ron Paul Finance Scandal?
American Spectator ^

Posted on 02/21/2012 8:31:47 PM PST by mnehring

Roll Call's Jonathan Strong reports that Ron Paul's office has a history of billing both US taxpayers and outside groups for the same flights -- and that he's been confronted about it:

In March 2005, David James called Rep. Ron Paul's (R-Texas) Congressional office for some documentation.

James's nonprofit group, the Liberty Committee, had paid for one of Paul's flights, and James needed a receipt or boarding pass to document the expense. He'd been pushing Paul for the paperwork and now, on the phone, he was "putting his foot down....

....David James wants Liberty Committee's money back, and is really angry about the whole thing:

On Feb. 15, James sent a fax to Paul's Clute office citing Roll Call's reporting and asking for about $10,000 in reimbursement for nearly 20 double-billed trips.

"It makes me damned angry that he would have taken the Liberty Committee, which was designed to work to pass liberty-oriented legislation and withstand any scrutiny and have contaminated it from the very beginning," James said.

"It never in a million years occurred to me that this man would be capable of what we can now see. So when there's mass hysteria and disbelief when this is published, I am not surprised. I was right with them."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apaulling; apaulogia; apaulogist; doublebilling; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; paulbearers; paultards; ricksantorum; rino; ronpaul; scandal
As reported by Mark Levin yesterday.

It seems the recent 'double billing' taxpayers for expenses isn't an isolated situation but has been going on for a while. Don't forget Ron Paul was basically kicked out of the Libertarian party (and one of his staffers went to jail) over an embezzlement scandal back in 1988.

Snip....On Election Day scores of Lawyers, and Accountants raided the Ron Paul for President Campaign Headquarters and closed down the campaign operation. Campaign Manager Nadia Hayes was arrested by the Nassau Bay, TX Police Department and later convicted for embezzlement of roughly $140,000.

American Libertarian magazine November 1988 described the situation: "�a bizarre twist tough-talking campaign manager Nadia Hayes was sacked the day before the election. And the much awaited last minute campaign media blitz largely failed to materialize�. Paul campaign chair Burt Blumert and Paul campaign ghostwriter and direct mail fundraiser Lew Rockwell showed up... unannounced and unexpected (at HQ). Staff were told that they should leave... locksmiths turned up late in the day to change the locks on the office doors."


1 posted on 02/21/2012 8:31:56 PM PST by mnehring
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks mnehring.


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3 posted on 02/21/2012 8:43:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul is a fraud - it’s that simple.


4 posted on 02/21/2012 8:45:14 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: svcw

Agree with only one exception, he’s right on the FED.


5 posted on 02/21/2012 8:48:43 PM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: mnehring

Give it a few minutes and the bots will be here spinning and parsing this information.

It will probably turn out that according to them that stealing the money was the fiscally responsible thing to do.


6 posted on 02/21/2012 8:48:43 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Eaker

I cant endorse stealing unless I do it


7 posted on 02/21/2012 8:51:51 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Submitting the same receipts for reimbursement twice?

He’s either ;

a) Corrupt

b) Suffering from Alzheimers

Either way, he’s done.


8 posted on 02/21/2012 8:53:54 PM PST by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: WellyP

As chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy what has he actually, ACTUALLY accomplished?


9 posted on 02/21/2012 8:59:30 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

I hope you are right but if it goes down that way I dont know what that does to the primary race


10 posted on 02/21/2012 8:59:59 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: mnehring

Let’s hope this puts him where he belongs...or at least out of public life & office.


11 posted on 02/21/2012 9:02:35 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: Eaker
As chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy what has he actually, ACTUALLY accomplished?

Wellllllllllllll.... He bitched a lot.

12 posted on 02/21/2012 9:03:48 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Eaker
As chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy what has he actually, ACTUALLY accomplished?

Wellllllllllllll.... He bitched a lot.

13 posted on 02/21/2012 9:03:48 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Submitting the same receipts for reimbursement twice? He’s either ; a) Corrupt b) Suffering from Alzheimers Either way, he’s done.
"Either/or" is the wrong function. Both are true. You also forgot "lazy", a "poor administrator" and "contemptuous of laws".
14 posted on 02/21/2012 9:25:07 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mnehring

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/17/questions-surface-gingrich-campaign-travel-payment/


15 posted on 02/21/2012 9:30:15 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Let me guess, you’re a Paulbot.


16 posted on 02/21/2012 9:34:03 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Except you forgot the rest of the story- nothing became of this on Newt because he was using his own plane and reimbursing the expense from the campaign as required by law (otherwise, it would be considered a donation and exceed the $2300 limit).

This is way different than double billing taxpayers and a PAC for the same expense (for apparently over five years).

(simplified just in case you are a Paul fan- Newt was renting his plane to his campaign. Paul double billing for expenses. Not even in the same category).


17 posted on 02/21/2012 9:40:53 PM PST by mnehring
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To: rmlew

I believe that is why the “newsletters” have his name on them - he is an incompetent manager who did not keep control over published items with his name on them.


18 posted on 02/21/2012 10:50:40 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: mnehring

Not his fault. The newsletter author does his expenses too, he knows nothing about it, just cashes the checks.


19 posted on 02/22/2012 4:33:23 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: woofie
I hope you are right but if it goes down that way I dont know what that does to the primary race

Hopefully the liberal Paulbots will stop crossing over to vote in our primaries and not bother with politics anymore-at least not until their messiah runs again in another election.

20 posted on 02/22/2012 5:33:11 AM PST by jboot
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To: Jack Burton007

This site won’t be worth visiting much until the Paulbots are banned. They swarm on every story with BS spin and piles of links to Paulbot sites.


21 posted on 02/22/2012 5:36:49 AM PST by jboot
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To: jboot

At the risk of taking a great deal of abuse, I would like to attempt to clear something up. I am a Ron Paul supporter and have been for many years, but I am no liberal and nobody’s robot. One of my favorite memories is of the ass-whuppin that Reagan delivered to Carter. I volunteered in GWB’s first presidential campaign, but seeing how he was no different from any other politician, I didn’t even vote for him in the next election. I am a conservative Christian who happens to believe that our involvements overseas are destroying our country and ruining our military, and the Fed should be abolished.

If Ron Paul has been scamming people, then I am deeply disappointed in him, because one of the main reasons people flock to him is that he has remained true to his principles even when they were unpopular. This very well could be the end of his campaign. However, if you think any of the other candidates is going to change the status quo, what you express is the triumph of hope over experience.

I don’t understand why we cannot discuss politics and ideas on this site without resorting to name calling.


22 posted on 02/22/2012 10:52:38 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Liberal is as liberal does. Ron Paul is no conservative. He believes that social conservatism is a "losing proposition." He believes that America somehow invited 9-11. He would end our support for Israel and hobnobs with known anti-semites (them darn joos...it always comes back to joos). He has pledged to gut the military. He is openly pro-drug. By saying the federal government has no role in social issues (and thus deliberately ignoring 50 years of political and judicial precedence) is de facto pro-choice and pro-homo marriage.

If you think that your "conservative Christian" church will withstand the legal onslaught that will follow same-sex marriage becoming legal in your state, you are woefully mistaken. But I digress.

Paul talks a big game but rarely does anything. He only rarely sponsors legislation. He hypocitically puts riders on spending bills that benefit his district and then votes against them with great indignation and fanfare, knowing full well that they will pass without his support. He is as close to an anarchist as we have seen in American politics in a long time. Frankly, Romney is is a step up from Paul. A big step up. And I wouldn't vote for Romney if he were the last living Republican.

23 posted on 02/22/2012 12:52:48 PM PST by jboot
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To: mnehring

I thought they were earmarks!

24 posted on 02/22/2012 12:56:14 PM PST by McGruff
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To: jboot

I support RP. I did not say I agree with him on everything. All churches will be safer in a society that doesn’t force political correctness on us. Further, I believe you misrepresent his views on the military and foreign policy, but you are unlikely to accept that. Freegards, Pining.


25 posted on 02/23/2012 8:43:08 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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