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Teacher's aide suspended for refusing to let school look at her Facebook page
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 4-2-12 | Christine Show

Posted on 04/02/2012 5:27:43 AM PDT by rawhide

A teacher's aide was suspended after she refused to let the school district she worked access her Facebook profile. Officials at the Frank Squires Elementary School in Cassopolis, Michigan insisted they check Kimberly Hester's account last year after she posted a picture of a co-worker wearing pants around the ankles and a pair of shoes. The woman is trying to take legal action against the school now that she has been put on unpaid leave.

She told WSBT-TV: 'I did nothing wrong. And I would not, still to this day, let them in my Facebook. And I don't think it's OK for an employer to ask you.' She went on to say: 'I have the right to privacy.' A parent who Facebook friends with Hester alerted the school about the picture.

That is when Robert Colby, superintendent of the Lewis Cass Intermediate School District, asked Hester to see her personal page on the social-networking site. Ms Hester said of the encounter: 'He asked me three times if he could view my Facebook and I repeatedly said I was not OK with that.' The district put her on paid administrative leave after she refused to provide Mr Colby access to her account. The school later suspended her and stopped paying her.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: cassopolis; facebook; michigan; password; teacher
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1 posted on 04/02/2012 5:27:54 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: cripplecreek

pingie


2 posted on 04/02/2012 5:33:49 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: rawhide

Uncle Obama wants to know everything about us also. His little army of convicts and federal thugs continue to gather all the info they can on us.


3 posted on 04/02/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
It's not just uncle Obama. It's business, too. It's "institutional thinking", if there is such a thing. Its the rule of the mindless mob.

Enjoy!

4 posted on 04/02/2012 5:38:29 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: rawhide

Get OFF Twitter, LinkedIn & Facebook pages! They’re data-mining engines. Here’s how to to delete Facebook permanently:

http://www.wikihow.com/Permanently-Delete-a-Facebook-Account


5 posted on 04/02/2012 5:38:41 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: rawhide

Good for her. Better for me - I don’t do FB at all.


6 posted on 04/02/2012 5:39:05 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: rawhide

The problem with this is three fold:
* Personal pages versus private pages mean that the page they look at may not be the one in the complaint.
* They may decide something based on a Facebook page of someone else.
* If the person had her pants around her ankles in public, it may not be the fault of the person who posted the picture but the person who put themselves in a compromising position. (If you don’t want pictures of yourself doing drunk stupid stuff on the web, don’t get drunk enough in public to do stupid stuff.)


7 posted on 04/02/2012 5:39:32 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: rawhide

“And I would not, still to this day, let them in my Facebook. And I don’t think it’s OK for an employer to ask you.’ She went on to say: ‘I have the right to privacy.”

Good for her!


8 posted on 04/02/2012 5:39:58 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: rawhide
It's a violation of your user agreement to relinquish your password to any third party.

Anyone demanding passwords to FB or any other private accounts should be sued.

9 posted on 04/02/2012 5:41:00 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It is spelled: One World Government. Right around the corner. The Bible predicted it. It is coming forth.


10 posted on 04/02/2012 5:42:24 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: rawhide

Setting aside the issue of how stupid it is to post things on FB that you wouldn’t want certain people to see, the idea of an employer demanding to have access to a personal site is outlandish. It’s the equivalent of their requiring access to your gmail account.

That said, the media is not writing these stories well. The impression in many instances is that employers are asking for passwords. That would be ridiculous; they want to view the pages. I have yet to see one company named that has asked for login information, but that doesn’t stop the media from reporting it as an emerging phenomenon.


11 posted on 04/02/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: rawhide

That’s why you create dummy accounts.


12 posted on 04/02/2012 5:44:54 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: rawhide

I think employers have figured out that accessing applicants’ and employees’ Facebook accounts is a back door to acquire information that is illegal to request on an application. You can’t ask a person’s age, gender, race, etc., on an official application, but most of that info is shared freely on social networks. Demanding access is stunningly illegal for this reason alone

(Most applications have a section asking for some of that info for diversity reporting, but filling it out is optional.


13 posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: carriage_hill

bump for later


14 posted on 04/02/2012 5:46:31 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: RetiredArmy
And before very long, he will begin using the info against us.

Just as every Socialists in recorded history has done, the first group to be eliminated by obama will be the fools that put him power. How he will go about doing this, I cannot say. But I do know that as sure as Monday follows Sunday that he will. He actually hates and distrusts them more than he does us.

15 posted on 04/02/2012 5:50:13 AM PDT by sport
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To: RetiredArmy

I do believe the ultimate secular authority will be manifest more as a Facebook-like entity — popular, then ubiquitous, then, before you know it, inescapable; offering perks then rationing necessities — at least in its early stages. And I agree that it is here. It’s just a matter of degree now.


16 posted on 04/02/2012 5:50:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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17 posted on 04/02/2012 5:50:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RetiredArmy
Uncle 0bama wants to know everything about us also. His little army of convicts and federal thugs continue to gather all the info they can on us.

Good, they can add this image to my file AGAIN:
"Hey Zero? KMA, ya Kenyan Turd!"

18 posted on 04/02/2012 5:50:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: rawhide

Why do people post stupid things?


19 posted on 04/02/2012 5:51:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: the invisib1e hand

“It’s “institutional thinking”, if there is such a thing. Its the rule of the mindless mob.”

It’s THE LIABILITY ATTORNEYS...
Risk management departments want this because it can show mental state, and risk.


20 posted on 04/02/2012 5:51:17 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: AAABEST

[It’s a violation of your user agreement to relinquish your password to any third party]

And it’s a violation for the principal to use her account also.


21 posted on 04/02/2012 5:51:43 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I suspect there’s a thriving underground market for information just like there is for body parts.


22 posted on 04/02/2012 5:52:02 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: carriage_hill
From the link you posted: It should be noted that how deep your deletion goes is highly questionable — Facebook still stores some of your information even though you've destroyed your way of accessing it.

I suspect Facebook still stores all of your info. It's the way they make money. Facebook, in addition to being evil, is like the Hotel California: You can check in but you can never leave.

23 posted on 04/02/2012 5:55:53 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Mr. Bird

My hunch is that Facebook is an innuendo machine, manufacturing “relationships” that don’t exist based upon presumptuous data analysis. People are constantly getting “invites” from people who have not necessarily contacted them. If so, regardless of what you post or do not, a “virtual profile” can be said to exist.


24 posted on 04/02/2012 5:56:14 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Mr. Bird

My hunch is that Facebook is an innuendo machine, manufacturing “relationships” that don’t exist based upon presumptuous data analysis. People are constantly getting “invites” from people who have not necessarily contacted them. If so, regardless of what you post or do not, a “virtual profile” can be said to exist.


25 posted on 04/02/2012 5:56:51 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Jonty30

There isn’t another kind of facebook account...


26 posted on 04/02/2012 5:57:45 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: rawhide

I guess next they’ll be demanding the right to open your mail.


27 posted on 04/02/2012 5:59:15 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: mkjessup
And the bastards can put this one right next to it !


28 posted on 04/02/2012 6:05:13 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq !)
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To: MrEdd

Like all things, it can be useful depending on how it is used. :)

I don’t post miscellaneous meanderings or read them, like most people. I participate in religious, philosophical discussions that i find most people in real life care to not get into.

I personally find it reasonably stimulating.


29 posted on 04/02/2012 6:06:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: MrEdd
You don't use your real name.

I have a friend who used a made up name and contacted some of us by email to let us know who they really were. Wish I'd thought of it!

30 posted on 04/02/2012 6:06:18 AM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: tbw2
If the person had her pants around her ankles in public, it may not be the fault of the person who posted the picture but the person who put themselves in a compromising position. (If you don’t want pictures of yourself doing drunk stupid stuff on the web, don’t get drunk enough in public to do stupid stuff.)

To a bureaucrat, the biggest offense is to make the organization look bad.

The article said it was a co-worker, so likely it was a teacher with union protection. It's easier to make an example of an aide who has no tenure or civil service protection.

Teach your kids to stay off facebook.

31 posted on 04/02/2012 6:08:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: rawhide

I agree with her that it is egregious and her employer should not have demanded to see her FB page. Having said that, her employer can decide to employ her or not, and if she had a history of posting inappropriate pics of her co-workers, they may decide they don’t want to pay her paycheck. Lesson: don’t post stuff on your FB page you don’t want people to see, especially if it’s about other people at work.


32 posted on 04/02/2012 6:12:58 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: rawhide

You are a fool, if:

1) You have a Facebook page under your own name, or with photos or *any* other personal information on it. (note: may be abbreviated to “You have a Facebook page.” This also applies to other social media, and *anything* to do with Google.

2) You put any other personal information on the Internet, other than minimal credit card information on secure sites. (Credit card security is now so awful that you should regularly, once a year, during a “quiet time”, request replacement cards with a new number.)

I highly recommend using the following sites:

PCTools Secure Password Generator. (Do not limit yourself to 8 character passwords, either. Go for a minimum of 21.)

http://www.pctools.com/guides/password/

Fake name and address generator.

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/

10 Minute (renewable) functional email address.

http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

Adobe Flash Cookies manager. Some sneaky websites (like Google), in addition to creating cookies that can be easily deleted from within your browser, also create “flash cookies”, that retain your information when your regular cookies have been deleted, and “reload” your browser cookies. Bookmark this site, as it lists and allows you to delete these flash cookies. Note: the control panel on the site is *not* an image, but a real control panel showing data from your computer.

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html


33 posted on 04/02/2012 6:25:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!")
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To: rawhide

She got snitched on by a parent who was also her Facebook friend. What I don’t understand is why the parent didn’t just get a screenshot of the picture, turn that in to the Principal and leave her out of it.


34 posted on 04/02/2012 6:25:43 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: SuzyQue

And don’t write it in your diary either. That whole right to privacy thing is so overrated. /s


35 posted on 04/02/2012 6:37:02 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: rawhide

Showing how much/little I know about Facebook, I thought you just looked up anyone on it, and got whatever they wanted to “share”.


36 posted on 04/02/2012 6:37:29 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: RetiredArmy
One World Government. Right around the corner.

Who do we have to remove first to slow it down a bit?

< /rhetoric >

37 posted on 04/02/2012 6:41:52 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Imagine getting rejected from a job at the comic book store for not submitting to the Vulcan Mind Meld?


38 posted on 04/02/2012 7:00:49 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: JimRed

Imagine getting rejected from a job at the comic book store for not submitting to the Vulcan Mind Meld?


39 posted on 04/02/2012 7:01:15 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You have a Facebook page under your own name, or with photos or *any* other personal information on it. I have several social networking connections in my real name so if someone looks for it, they find it. It's purposefully vanilla with nothing interesting or too personal, but if someone wants to see my page, it's there. It's a passive honey pot of sorts.

The real info...that's elsewhere accessed only through a proxy (or two) and usually through https. It's certainly not hack proof, but any entity who takes the time to get through it won't be stopped anyway.


40 posted on 04/02/2012 7:37:52 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: upchuck

I suspect you’re right, but at least it’s no longer available publicly when that procedure is used. Otherwise, it remains to be accessed, even though “de-activated”.


41 posted on 04/02/2012 7:39:27 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: BykrBayb

I’m not sure what your comment has to do with this situation. FB is a semi-public to public site; your diary is not. What is your point?


42 posted on 04/02/2012 7:56:45 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: CAluvdubya
You don't use your real name. I have a friend who used a made up name and contacted some of us by email to let us know who they really were. Wish I'd thought of it!

Would not have helped in this case: "A parent who Facebook friends with Hester alerted the school about the picture".

Facebooking under a fake name is no good if one of your "friends" rats out your fake name and sends a printout of objectionable contents to your employer.

43 posted on 04/02/2012 8:01:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: FourPeas

Proxies are fairly meaningless these days. Once they were widely used, lots of effort was put into defeating them.

I use the old playground rule, “Don’t take anything to school you would regret if it was damaged, destroyed or stolen.”

A friend was an avid magazine reader and tried the experiment of subscribing using false names. He also made it a point to record what false name he used for which magazine. It was illuminating.

Not only did he start to receive copious spam addressed to particular fakes, but he also got phone calls directed to them, and what really disturbed him, government inquiries.

On the Internet is far worse than that. There is an astounding amount of dossier collection and data mining going on in both private business and government. And, as the old intelligence rule goes:

“Nobody wants to know anything about you for *your* benefit.”


44 posted on 04/02/2012 8:25:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!")
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To: massgopguy

Or not knowing the rules to Rock, Paper, Scisors, Lizard, Spock :p


45 posted on 04/02/2012 8:52:07 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: rawhide

Guilty, guilty, guilty.


46 posted on 04/02/2012 8:54:26 AM PDT by matthew fuller (FLASH! Republican circular firing squad successful! No survivors remain.)
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To: SuzyQue

Your desire to make someone else’s private correspondence public doesn’t make it so. You don’t have the right to access someone’s email account, even if they cc some of their emails to everyone they know.


47 posted on 04/02/2012 9:40:28 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

People overly boogieman data mining. It’s just data, that’s mostly available elsewhere anyway. All the efforts to “clean” your machine just inconvenience you, anybody really curious about your internet habits can still find them from you ISP, the various DNS, and the places you visit. Meanwhile most of the data mining is just trying not to send salsa ads to white people in Minnesota.


48 posted on 04/02/2012 9:46:22 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: BykrBayb

A diary is a document that is traditionally kept private and only available to the writer.

Facebook is, by definition, a public forum. You may control your “public”, as in perhaps only family and friends can view your postings, but the whole point of FB is to make your musings and photos available to your audience.

Whole different animal, with different goals and different effects.

The fact that this is even a story makes my point. Had the woman stuck a photo of her coworker in her diary, we would have been blissfully unaware of the whole thing. As would have her employer.


49 posted on 04/02/2012 10:00:08 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Jonty30
That’s why you create dummy accounts.

Good comment.......I have a dummy that's only used to allow me to comment on newspaper articles without having to create a new account on the particular site.

50 posted on 04/02/2012 10:54:55 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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