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Right On! weekly ^ | March 30, 2012 | Tamara Heater

Posted on 04/21/2012 5:15:22 PM PDT by No!


So what was it that you said you wanted in a replacement for the Oval Office?? I thought it was honesty, and integrity, and Pro-Am policies that support main street, our Constitution, Laws of the land and the freedoms we hold dear. Wasn’t it??? Didn’t you?? You said you wanted someone who could communicate that without a teleprompter. You said you were sick of the lamestream media lies (have you already forgotten that you are the mainstream media??). Well accuracy, dear friend and conservative voter, is the enemy of lies. I want a policy EXPERT in the OVAL OFFICE that remains on the side of “We the People” and our freedoms and the rule of law. I want the arch-enemy of the left in our oval, and that happens to be Newt!

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To: ansel12

Easy enough. Never defended Romney in the first place.


121 posted on 04/22/2012 12:09:33 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

We are not stuck with Mitt. The only way we are stuck with Mitt is if people give up right now, rather than winning the last half of the primary season for conservatives.

Like you.

If you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion, why even be in it? The one who offers only the taunts of “It’s too late” and “It’s your fault and there is no redemption possible” is the one who first posed on the earth as a snake, SnakeDoctor.

It’s not too late, and the people who want us to think so - who want us to be b!tching about the other guy always being the problem so we’re divided and fighting each other.... are those who are out to DEMORALIZE, to KILL, to keep us from being ABLE to be effective.

This is not over and you’ve presented nothing to show that it is. All you present is a hiss in the ears saying, “Give up. Your allies have betrayed you.”

You really need to watch “The Lord of the Rings”. There are SO many points of reference I could use here. Eowyn’s “Your words are poison!”, Theoden’s, “Where was Gondor...”, Galadriel’s “The quest stands on the edge of a knife...”, Gimli’s “And I suppose you think you’re the one to do it. Never trust an elf!”

What we need is Sam Gamgee’s “I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you!”

We need Aragorn’s “The day may come when the courage of men fails... but it is not this day! This day we fight!”

We need Aragorn’s “For Frodo!”

And we need Frodo’s, “I want to hear about Sam. Frodo wouldn’t have got far without Sam.”

Aragorn’s “If by my life or my death I can help you, I will. I pledge you my sword”. Legolas’ “And you have my bow.” And Gimli’s “And my axe”.

This is what we need right now. Not friendly fire and demoralization.

122 posted on 04/22/2012 12:38:24 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: No!
I want the arch-enemy of the left

Sorry, Duncan Hunter is retired.

123 posted on 04/22/2012 12:41:59 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
>>I’m simply a conservative that recognizes that Newt is done.<<

From my perspective you are a weak conservative who has given up.

124 posted on 04/22/2012 12:45:11 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: butterdezillion

We are stuck with Mitt. We are also stuck with a significant number of conservatives in denial about being stuck with Mitt. Two strikes. Hopefully, those conservatives will catch up with reality in weeks, rather than months.

Reality is always more constructive than denial. Better to move on to Plan B than to spend further time and energy on a failed Plan A. Plenty of letters left in the alphabet.


125 posted on 04/22/2012 12:49:08 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: CynicalBear

I’ve given up nothing. All my principles were not tied to Newt.

Your perspective is taken for what its worth.


126 posted on 04/22/2012 12:50:54 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: No!

If Newt had a chance, he’d be a lot better than Romney.

He doesn’t.

And this may surprise some people but Newt is not the greatest conservative or the greatest guy. He’s not even trustworthy. He would be better than romney. So are a lot of other people that are not going to be the nominee.

At this point we need to fight Romney and hope for at the very least a strong CONSERVSTIVE veep. Then fight Obama.

And we need to start a new party toute suite. No more RINO party. It has left us.

127 posted on 04/22/2012 1:29:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: tomkat

It’s NOT over.

Newt Trails Obama by Only 7 Points in Latest Rasmussen Tracking Poll (or It’s Not Over Yet).
Vanity | April 21, 2012 | True Believer

Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:08:35 PM by true believer forever

In the lastest Rasmussen tracking poll, which has had no media coverage, Newt Gingrich is trailing Barack Obama by only 7 points nationally. Barack Obama is leading Mitt Romney by only 5 points in Florida. These poll results are being withheld by the RNC and the MSM, who want no positive news about Newt in circulation, especially the fact he is only behind Obama by 7 points nationally.

The RNC establishment’s current strategy remains: Publish no poll numbers; spread the word that Romney is the nominee; have people vote based on blackout and misinformation expecting Romney to win big; then hit hard with Romney’s wins and Newt’s losses to bully Newt into dropping.

Please do yourself the honor of reviewing actual polls by doing a Google search for “2012 Republican presidential polls (name state)” and you will see why the RNC is using this tactic. Then spread the word!

Obama with the dem-media complex, millions of dollars, sycophants everywhere in the media, versus Mitt Romney with the entire conservative media capitulated behind him, his millions, and NEWTON LEROY GINGRICH is only 7 points behind Obama in the lastest Rasmussen tracking?

128 posted on 04/22/2012 1:55:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Arguing from the future. tsk tsk.

Unless you’re Nostradamus, it means naught.

129 posted on 04/22/2012 2:00:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: SnakeDoctor

You refuse to give any reasons. Just keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Talking to you makes as much sense as doing the “Yes, you did”, “No, I didn’t”, “Yes, you did”, “No, I didn’t”..... (etc ad nauseum) routine.

You say it’s over because you say it’s over, and nothing will break through your circular argument.

Argue with yourself; that’s apparently all you’re willing to listen to anyway.

130 posted on 04/22/2012 3:25:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Simple math.

Newt Gingrich has 140 delegates so far. If he loses 49 more delegates, he is officially mathematically eliminated. To win, he has to win 1004 out of 1053 remaining delegates. That’s 95%. Its over for Newt.

Romney has 656 delegates — and New England hasn’t even voted yet. NY, Penn, RI, Delaware are this week. NY (95 delegates) and Connecticut (28 delegates) become winner-take-all if Romney breaks 50% (which he will). Delaware (17 delegates) is winner take all.

Those three will put Romney at 796 by themselves. Tuesday should put Romney at or above 900 delegates.

After Tuesday, California (WTA, 172 delegates), New Jersey (WTA, 50 delegates) and Utah (WTA, 40 delegates), still won’t have happened. That’s another 262 right there.

Just those winner-take-all States (NY, Conn, Delaware, NJ, CA, Utah) that are sure-thing Romney wins will put Romney at 1058 of 1144. He’ll get more than enough votes in the proportional states to make up the 86 remaining delegates he needs.

Its over because its over. Not magic. Just math. There is no path to victory for Newt, and no way Romney won’t get to 1144.


131 posted on 04/22/2012 4:45:46 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: All

It’s not over....

Get OUT of our way!

There are plenty of us that see that what we are getting with Obama we are STILL gonna get with Mitt in charge. It just might take longer, maybe...

As for me, I am willing to risk my money and FIGHT for what Newt has planned. Can he do it all? NO, and he has SAID so! Only We The People can get this job done.

So like I said Give up now if you are so inclined but get out of our way!

I can’t say it better than this:

132 posted on 04/22/2012 4:49:40 PM PDT by No!
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To: SnakeDoctor

How did you calculate Romney’s current delegates? Bound/unbound? Proportional for states which are required to be proportional?

NY and CT become winner-take-all if Romney EVER breaks 50%, or if he’s at 50% when their election takes place?

Are there no pro-life Republicans in the states that you say are sure-fire Romney wins? None of them who realize that Romneycare will be a millstone around our neck in November, and that suppression of the conservative vote is electoral catastrophe not only for the Presidential election but also for down-ballot elections? No CAtholics, for heaven’s sake?

133 posted on 04/22/2012 5:21:11 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: SnakeDoctor

You’re assuming that Romney will win every winner-take-all state and that he will get enough to pass 50% WITHOUT COUNTING NY and CT’s states as WTA so that NY and CT will become WTA.

IOW, you are giving the best-case scenario for Romney as if it’s a given.

In reality, even if Romney takes all the WTA states, Romney would have to get from middle America 86 delegates PLUS whatever proportional votes Newt gets in NY and CT in order to pass 50% and thus get all of NY and CT’s delegates.

And all the unbound delegates would have to stay with Romney.

If the number of delegates you gave for Romney is the number that the GOP-e has claimed Romney has (based on law-breaking by the GOP-e and not based on the actual law) then the hurdle for Romney is even larger.

What you’ve presented is where everything falls for Romney, and you’re presenting it as if it is inevitable. I don’t believe that it is.

134 posted on 04/22/2012 5:40:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Got the numbers from RCP.

You can parse State-by-State if you’d like. Its a foregone conclusion at this point, though. Those WTA States couldn’t have been any better for Romney if they were hand-picked. Rockefeller Republicans in the Northeast, California Republicans, and Mormon Republicans in Utah. You foresee anybody else winning those States? Gingrich gonna take Utah or NY?

The numbers are what they are. Even if I’m seeing one State here or there wrong ... there’s more than enough leftover delegates in the proportional States to make up for it. Numbers are overwhelming. Its over.

Wishing it were different won’t make it so.


135 posted on 04/22/2012 5:42:58 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

That uses all the best numbers for Romney. It includes unbound delegates and considers that FL is WTA (so Romney got all 50 delegates) but that SC wasn’t (which gives Romney 2 delegates that would have been Gingrich’s if RCP had been internally consistent in making all pre-April primaries WTA).

IOW, what you’ve presented is absolutely the best-case scenario for Romney. Which you’re presenting as inevitable.

Now I know better why Romney had to buy the “pro-life” groups. He knows he’s vulnerable. Well, this chick is going to fight back against the “pro-life” groups. Going to expose them for what they are: prostitutes.

If the “Rockefeller Republicans” were such a sure bet for Romney, then why did the VA GOP-e have to screw everybody but Romney and Ron Paul, to keep them off the ballot by changing the rules for petitions mid-stream? Why did they have to screw around with Maine’s votes? The criminality by the GOP-e reveals that they know this isn’t a shoe-in for Romney.

136 posted on 04/22/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: No!

Interesting article but I don’t agree with all of it. However I agree with the premise. If the premise is that the presumptive nominee, idiot Romney, is a loser and a liar and not the best replacement for Obama or an adequate challenger to Obama and will abandon conservatives and be worse than McCain.

But the reason why Romney is leading and only Gingrich is left, even though Santorum has not released delegates, is because democrat states with democrat-republicans and open primaries went for idiot Romney in droves and then to top it off the GOP cheated in Virginia and Missouri to help Romney. And Gingrich is vowing to oppose Romney to Tampa, which is one thing I like about Gingrich.

But thwn one has to note that a divisive tea party/ conservative base helped end Bachmann’s campaign, killed off Perry too, and turned on Cain. But you have to understand the base was split on candidates from the first day. So they are unable to unify with one candidate.

The author Tamara Heater is too pro Newt to understand the critiques against Newt by conservatives like Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin. The Newt of the past several months was much better than the Newt of the past. But the past shows us a Newt that was with a mixed record. Cut, Cap and Balance was on his highlights. Supporting an Individual Mandate was one of his lowlights. He wants a sort of Amnesty Bill of his own. He came up with a plan he has touted a while. But really got press when he brought it up at one of the early debates. However, he is right on the Supreme Courts.

Thus I still remain 50/50 on him. He is the last one left and I could support him though. But I am already on to figuring out what to do next.

I don’t dislike Newt. Agreed with him on various points he made this cycle. But to me Bachmann, Cain and Santorum were a bit better to me. There is enough out there about Newt to leave me confused and holding my nose.

But I get the point. However if it is trying to make Newt out to the best choice period out of the entire field that ran as opposed to the only choice left now and the last chance to rally around somebody better than Mitt, then I disagree.

I’ll agree he is much better than Romney.

137 posted on 04/22/2012 6:05:36 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: butterdezillion

Unfortunately, that’s best case scenario for Gingrich. Gingrich won’t win NY, Del, Conn, NJ, Cali or Utah. Those are in Romney country. No chance.

Three of those (NY, Del, Conn) will be done by the end of this week. There’s only two people left in the race — which is why Romney will get 50%+ in NY and Conn.

If we assume Gingrich wins the rest (Penn, Missouri, NC, RI, Indiana, W.Virginia, Nebraska, Oregon, Kentucky, Arkansas, Texas, South Dakota, Montana, and Nebraska) ... those are almost all proportional States.

If Romney even takes 25% of the votes there, with the other 75% going to Gingrich, Romney will win in a landslide.

I can’t see Romney not getting to 1144 even under his worst case scenario.


138 posted on 04/22/2012 6:14:21 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

So you’re saying that NY and CT are WTA unless the winner doesn’t get 50% of the vote in those states.

It’s a 3-way race between Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Romney, and Santorum’s name will still be on the ballots as well.

You’re still not counting for the unbound delegates or the proportional delegation for pre-April contests.

Even if Romney had it in the bag I would have to vote against him and would have to encourage others to vote against him. I’ve already said why. “We have to show the world we weren’t all like him.” There is no way in heck I will ever vote for somebody who supports government-coerced abortion when there is somebody in the race who doesn’t. Never. Never, ever, ever.

If enough people will stand on principle there is still hope.

If not, then the country is already mostly dead and I pretty much invite the Lord to deal with this nation as it deserves. He will give those who don’t deserve it the strength to bear up under the same fate as those who do. Actually, those of us who won’t accept the mark of the beast will graciously be executed before the worst hits, most likely. It’s those who want to negotiate with sharia who will have to suffer under it.

139 posted on 04/22/2012 7:24:28 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I agree with all of the above and will only add...

We gotta TRY, and if we fail at least I can live with myself in that I did all I..... could.

And yes, there IS hope! :)

140 posted on 04/22/2012 7:47:41 PM PDT by No!
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