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Clinton Mocks Allen West Calling Democratic Representatives Communists: ĎThis Isnít The 1950sí
Mediaite ^ | June 5, 2012 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 06/05/2012 11:26:01 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Former President Bill Clinton mocked Rep. Allen West (R-FL) at a fundraising event for President Barack Obama on Monday night. Clinton mocked West’s claim that House Democrats were communists – he said that “this isn’t the 1950s” and “no one has seen a communist in over a decade.”

Clinton praised the work that Obama has accomplished in his first term in office and said that he’s had to accomplish the reforms he has instituted amid significant adversity. “He’s had to get all this done while people as recently as last week were still saying he wasn’t born in America,” said Clinton.

Clinton continued by targeting House Republicans, singling out Rep. West who he described as one of the “tea party members.” Clinton became animated when he highlighted Rep. West’s comments where he implied that the House Progressive Caucus were communists.

“This is not the 1950s,” said Clinton. “At least Joe McCarthy could skate on the fact that there was one or two living communists walking around. Nobody’s seen a communist in over a decade.”

Clinton concluded saying that “no criticism [of President Obama by Republicans] was too vicious and too fact-free.”

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1 posted on 06/05/2012 11:26:06 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

2 posted on 06/05/2012 11:27:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yea, klintoon, no one has seen a communist because now they call themselves progressives, liberals or DIMocRATs.


3 posted on 06/05/2012 11:28:27 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I believe that communism is worse now than in the 50’s. The people just won’t believe it. One day they will wake up. I just hope it’s not to late.


4 posted on 06/05/2012 11:28:35 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bill Clinton; “this isn’t the 50’s...now honey get down on your knees and take care of business will you- the former president of the US has things to do already”....


5 posted on 06/05/2012 11:29:06 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Nobody’s seen a communist in over a decade."

I didn't realize he's never met Zero or his wife.

6 posted on 06/05/2012 11:29:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who is William Ayers for 500 Alex?


7 posted on 06/05/2012 11:30:09 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“This is not the 1950s,” said Clinton. “At least Joe McCarthy could skate on the fact that there was one or two living communists walking around. Nobody’s seen a communist in over a decade.”

Bill is EXACTLY correct - ding! ding! ding!

They are Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, Statists, and Obamunists now. Millions of them.

8 posted on 06/05/2012 11:30:29 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: hal ogen

Yeah, Klintoon...

The communists gave up their quest for world domination after the 50’s.

Is that what you’re saying?

I know, I know... you wouldn’t be a communist/socialist/”liberal” if it weren’t for the easy women.


9 posted on 06/05/2012 11:31:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Clinton is a liar. Joe McCarthy was right and there were a lot more Commies than two back then and there's a lot more now than then.
10 posted on 06/05/2012 11:32:22 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“I don’t understand it. I don’t know any of my acquaintances who voted for Nixon!”


11 posted on 06/05/2012 11:33:20 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: RC2
I believe that communism is worse now than in the 50’s.

Right on! We are resembling a communists controlled America like never before. And what do we expect with King Obama, a communists black Mulsim, and his appointed empire of hard core communists. Just look at Holder. So many more it is hard to believe.

12 posted on 06/05/2012 11:34:13 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Your so-called wife is a communist, Slick.


13 posted on 06/05/2012 11:35:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: RC2
You’d be quite justified in that belief. And Joe McCarthy looks more vindicated every day. Remember this Khrushchev-attributed quote?
We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have communism.
Even if he didn’t say it, that is exactly what happened.
14 posted on 06/05/2012 11:35:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Better watch it, bubb.

West can clean your clock - physically and intellectually.

He’s actually held real jobs.

You haven’t.

Nope, presidential bl*w jobs don’t count.


15 posted on 06/05/2012 11:37:34 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They may not be reporting by microdot to the kremlin anymore, but they’re still communist traitors.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 11:37:56 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s much worse than the 1950’s. Clinton who lied and cheated his way through his presidency is now the standard of honesty and credibility. Give me a break.


17 posted on 06/05/2012 11:41:51 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The first 2 years in office Obama had dem control of both the House and Senate - yet he had to “accomplish” things under the extreme adversity of people saying he was not born in America?

Clinton leaves a hint as to why he changed his tune to endorse Obama: the same threats that got him to give up on exposing Obama’s ineligibility in July of 2008 were used now. I imagine it only took two words: Breitbart. Chelsea.


18 posted on 06/05/2012 11:42:16 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Allen West is right and Joseph McCarthy and the John Birch Society were right too.


19 posted on 06/05/2012 11:43:45 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: ozzymandus

The members of the Democrat party who hide behind the progressive label meet Stalin’s definition of “useful idiots
“, by far the most appropriate name of the members of the Democrat Party. The leaders of the Democrat party are simply communists. A label they are too cowardly to accept.


20 posted on 06/05/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by affan76
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To: All
More than a "couple of communists kicking around," Bubba.

Venona Project Homepage, NSA (Decrypted Soviet Cables, Coulter source for Treason book) (FR thread 2003)

These messages provided extraordinary insight into Soviet attempts to infiltrate the highest levels of the United States Goverment.
(That line was removed from the NSA website.)

VENONA (NSA website)

The U.S. Army's Signal Intelligence Service, the precursor to the National Security Agency, began a secret program in February 1943 later codenamed VENONA. The mission of this small program was to examine and exploit Soviet diplomatic communications but after the program began, the message traffic included espionage efforts as well.

Although it took almost two years before American cryptologists were able to break the KGB encryption, the information gained through these transactions provided U.S. leadership insight into Soviet intentions and treasonous activities of government employees until the program was canceled in 1980.

The VENONA files are most famous for exposing Julius (code named LIBERAL) and Ethel Rosenberg and help give indisputable evidence of their involvement with the Soviet spy ring.

The first of six public releases of translated VENONA messages was made in July 1995 and included 49 messages about the Soviets' efforts to gain information on the U.S. atomic bomb research and the Manhattan Project. Over the course of five more releases, all of the approximately 3,000 VENONA translations were made public.


21 posted on 06/05/2012 11:46:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If it's no longer the 1950s, if focusing on the Communist threat is merely an exercise in nostalgia, then why would Rep. West's words be any kind of a threat?

[Me and my pesky questions...]

22 posted on 06/05/2012 11:50:00 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That there happens to exist a misbegotten political animal, the left wing, liberal chimera of which is America’s worst nightmare is all the proof you need that Communism and all its innumerable iterations are alive and doing all too-well.


23 posted on 06/05/2012 11:51:53 AM PDT by lbryce (OMG. What have we done to deserve the likes of the miscreant Zero?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Clinton mocked West’s claim that House Democrats were communists – he said that “this isn’t the 1950s” and “no one has seen a communist in over a decade.”

“At least Joe McCarthy could skate on the fact that there was one or two living communists walking around.

Actually, Willy-Jeff, you are partly right. Back in the 1950's there were one or two. Now there are over seventy.



World English Dictionary

communism

— n

1. advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community

2. any social, economic, or political movement or doctrine aimed at achieving such a society

3. ( usually capital ) Marxism Marxism-Leninism See also socialism a political movement based upon the writings of Marx that considers history in terms of class conflict and revolutionary struggle, resulting eventually in the victory of the proletariat and the establishment of a socialist order based on public ownership of the means of production.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/communism

So...

When the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA PAC lists the seventy some odd members that are currently holding office IN CONGRESS and Rep. Allen West points out that fact, the screeching from you and the "progressive liberals" (communists) proclaims West's statement as "stupid and dissociated from reality," "trying to make it in the press with comments that don’t even make sense" and Allen West is "an ignorant, mean guy."

Yeah, that load of crap from the communist agenda donks is supposed to convince me that they are not communists?

Oh.

OK.

.

24 posted on 06/05/2012 11:51:53 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So I take it he hasn’t woken up next to the critter he is married to for a while.


25 posted on 06/05/2012 11:52:42 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Dear [Lt.] Colonel Holmes West,

. . . [I and] so many fine people have come to . . . loathing the [U.S.] military . . . To many of us, it is no longer clear what [you did] is service and what is disservice [to our country]

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton

A 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical (spoiled brat) speaks out.

A reminder.. to best of my recollection there were questions who was the real father of William Jefferson Blythe (Clinton).

Another egomaniacal psycho kid spoiled by a lifetime of people feeling sorry for him?

26 posted on 06/05/2012 11:52:42 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

And for the bonus round, “Who is Van Jones?”


27 posted on 06/05/2012 11:53:02 AM PDT by Noumenon (If people saw socialists for what they truly are, slaughter would ensue - in self-defense.)
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To: TigersEye
More than a "couple of communists kicking around," Bubba.

That's one thing about a natural con man like Slick Willie: he's astute enough to know that he can't simply bullroar his way past the Communist theat. Slick Willy, despite his obvious faults, can't get up the gumption to say "never never never" and blind himself. He knows that he can't be Slick unless he barely acknowledges the truth.

In this sense, he's better than his wifey-wife.

28 posted on 06/05/2012 11:57:46 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: RC2

RE: I believe that communism is worse now than in the 50’s

At least then we had Joe McCarthy attempting to keep the ship of state on the straight and level


29 posted on 06/05/2012 12:00:25 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Socialists.com and Communists.com redirect to Obama campaign website

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/socialists-com-and-communists-com-redirect-to-obama-campaign-website/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Jones#Earlier_activism
In October 2005 Jones said he was “a rowdy nationalist”[14] before the King verdict was announced, but that by August of that year (1992) he was a communist.

“The Nation’s” Top 50 Progressives… and Socialists and Communists

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/03/30/the-nations-top-50-progressive

CPUSA And Obama Platforms Are Identical

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6247


30 posted on 06/05/2012 12:04:18 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: danielmryan
In this sense, he's better than his wifey-wife.

That's true. Hillary has always disdained the games of politics and would like to get straight to the executions and mass roundups. Bill would be happy if he could just have Lt. Col. West get him some coffee.

"I'll have a mocha latte with whip cream on top in a blue cup.
And don't spill any."

"Does anybody else want coffee?"

31 posted on 06/05/2012 12:04:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A progressive by any other name would still stink of communism.


32 posted on 06/05/2012 12:09:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: All

Joe Biden told Clinton to say that.............


33 posted on 06/05/2012 12:11:46 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“This is not the 1950s,” said Clinton. “We call ourselves ‘Progressives’ now.” Har-de-har


34 posted on 06/05/2012 12:13:49 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Syphilis and the brain.


35 posted on 06/05/2012 12:16:59 PM PDT by Post5203 (Newter 0bama...The real Axis of Evil...Washington, New York City and Hollywood.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...“no one has seen a communist in over a decade.”

That's a big laugh. It doesn't take a membership card to make a communist. And there are probably some of those around too.

36 posted on 06/05/2012 12:17:38 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Clinton - “Nobody’s seen a communist in over a decade.”

I believe many progressives are just one step away from communism. All they need is an excuse and an opportunity.

Also, I think he’s married to one.
(I was gonna say he kisses one ‘Good Morning’ but I doubt the Clintons have slept in the same bed in a long, long time. I’m not trying to be mean; I really do doubt it. I think Hillary tired of the “Love Master” years ago and has decided to stick with box lunches from now on.)


37 posted on 06/05/2012 12:18:51 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Clinton isn’t a moron but he is convinced we are. It’s like an article about the Argentine oil seizure. The article actually said the the nationalization was not socialism per se because the government has appointed a CEO and Board of Directors to replace the Spaniards. Now didn’t we do something similar which we are told isn’t socialism? GM springs to mind.

Go Allen West!!!!


38 posted on 06/05/2012 12:21:30 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Communism ended in the 50s? What the Fluke is Slick Willie talking about? I never heard that! Has anyone told the communists up on Capitol Hill yet?


39 posted on 06/05/2012 12:24:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s just using ridicule because he can’t disprove West.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 12:24:29 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wow, look how far we’ve come along the path to socialism/communism without the messiah’s help. And just think of the “progress” we can make with Obama.


41 posted on 06/05/2012 12:26:12 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: JimSEA
It’s like an article about the Argentine oil seizure. The article actually said the the nationalization was not socialism per se because the government has appointed a CEO and Board of Directors to replace the Spaniards.

Mussolini coined a term for that. Fascisimo.

42 posted on 06/05/2012 12:29:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No, in the 1950’s you’d be ashamed to be a Commie, now it’s a DNC plank.


43 posted on 06/05/2012 12:32:02 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: servo1969

Read “You can still trust the communists to be communists”,
and watch the move “Agenda: Grinding America Down”,

and you’ll see what they’ve done, what they’re doing, and how they operate.

Hillary’s a communist, but she’s one of the smarter ones, the Fabians. She probably thinks 0bama’s blowing it by being revolutionary instead of evolutionary.


44 posted on 06/05/2012 12:33:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

” - - - - Clinton mocked West’s claim that House Democrats were communists - - - - “

Hmmmmmmm, - - - - - ? Looks like “The House Democrats” are worried that Allen West might be right!


45 posted on 06/05/2012 12:33:34 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: MrB
Hillary’s a communist, but she’s one of the smarter ones, the Fabians. She probably thinks 0bama’s blowing it by being revolutionary instead of evolutionary.

I think she is right. That is why I have always considered her more dangerous.
Too late, Hill!

46 posted on 06/05/2012 12:39:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The democrat party in this country has been dedicated to founding a ruling nobility ever since it was founded.

When they saw how much more marketable fascist economics were than communism, they adopted fascist economic approaches and only held onto the progressives and communists who they had attracted because they knew useful idiots when they saw them. There are plenty of communists still around and Herr Klinton knows it. He also knows who has the other end of the leash they're on which is why he goes straight to Alynsky prescribed ridicule whenever the subject comes up.

47 posted on 06/05/2012 12:40:00 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s getting to where I have to check every article to see if it’s satire. Nobody has seen a communist in over a decade? Did China disappear?


48 posted on 06/05/2012 12:40:29 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Die you grey haired, raping, lying commie.


49 posted on 06/05/2012 12:45:39 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

I don’t think Bill’s a true believer in communism.
He’s simply a leftist because the women are “easier”.


50 posted on 06/05/2012 12:47:30 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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