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Democrats and Republicans: No, Both Parties Are Not the Same
The New American ^ | 11 June 2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/11/2012 6:57:10 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer

There is a certain tiresome message we’ve all heard: the notion that the Republican and Democratic parties are the same. It’s often put forth by people who consider themselves outside-the-box thinkers, and they fancy their point of view the enlightened one. Sometimes cynical George Carlin types, their message is, “Hey, I’m smart enough to know both parties are playin’ the game. Don’t try to fool me!”

This attitude was apparent in a few of the comments under a recent piece I wrote about liberal immorality. One respondent opined, for instance, “What still amazes [me] is that there has been definite documentation about the lack of morals that all politicians have. Neither side can claim to be exempt from this. Yet, there seems to be this arrogance among the right, that they can explain away any misgivings that a Republican does.”

Now, the first thing to mention here is that my article’s focus was on ideology — liberalism and conservatism — far more than party. However, since these ideologies are associated with, respectively, the Democrats and Republicans, whatever differences the ideologies breed will also manifest themselves in the parties to a great extent. More significantly, though, my piece was not mainly about politicians but liberals in general. This is significant because you can find a given fault in any group, but this doesn’t mean that it characterizes the group. So, sure, there are bad politicians everywhere, one in every bunch. But how do the rank-and-file react? Do they demand a degree of virtue from their leaders or only a degree of success? Let’s examine it.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: democrats; libertarianism; republicans; same
The Demonrats HAVE become the party of vice, that's for sure.
1 posted on 06/11/2012 6:57:14 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

The party elites are blending. Dems are worse but they both spend too much.


2 posted on 06/11/2012 7:01:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: Paladins Prayer

The problem with both parties is that they no longer fear God nor their constituents, so yes they are one and the same!
http://www.youtube.com/user/polyphemus777


3 posted on 06/11/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Paladins Prayer

The GOPe is merely the Demoncraps’ “away jersey”.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Sorry, no sale!

Get back to me when they quit putting up lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberals like Romney for POTUS.


5 posted on 06/11/2012 7:08:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Paladins Prayer
The Democrats are the party of Marxists, traitors and perverts. The Republicans are for the most part an assembly of ineffectual poseurs. They're not the same, but the Repubs are content to natter on impotently in the face of the corrosive evil being perpetrated by the Keft.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

6 posted on 06/11/2012 7:09:06 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I meant "Left", of course. 



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 06/11/2012 7:11:06 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Paladins Prayer

You judge the Party by their base, using that standard no sane person could ever say they are the same, not even close!


8 posted on 06/11/2012 7:15:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Paladins Prayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2893977/posts


9 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Paladins Prayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2893977/posts


10 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Paladins Prayer

No, the author is wide off the mark.

When Republicans behaved just like Democrats, (if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ....) why is it wrong to call them out? Look closely, Republicans have not been practicing their ideology for how many decades now?

I don’t consider myself ‘outside-the-box thinker’ or ‘the enlightened one’. That attitude from the author is ‘tiresome’.


11 posted on 06/11/2012 7:17:37 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: ConorMacNessa; bmwcyle; SoConPubbie; carriage_hill; IslamE; Paladins Prayer

Once they get a taste of life inside the lines of separation become blurred. The two parties are like Pepsi and Coke: while they sometimes do battle with a special promotion they are happy to maintain their own market share and will work together to keep Dr. Pepper out of their house.


12 posted on 06/11/2012 7:18:25 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Baynative

Good analogy, Bn.


13 posted on 06/11/2012 7:22:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

the parties might not be the same...

but the progressives in both parties sure are


14 posted on 06/11/2012 7:25:18 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Paladins Prayer

No, they are not the same.

The republicans have supported tyrannical, socialistic, Big Nanny Government only to the first or second power.

The democrats push for TOTAL tyrannical, socialistic, Big Nanny Government - and they have been winning the battle for more than 50 years.

Much of the republican success at the federal level can usually be traced to disgusted voters picking the least worst of two really bad options.

The democrat party cannot be saved - it is too far gone.

The republican party could be saved if they keep their oaths of office and would listen to voters, especially Tea Party and other conservatives.
But establishment republicans are fighting to keep out new blood and conservative idealism.
They would rather protect their position, perks, wealth and power than do what is right for America.

Without a miraculous change in direction both parties are both doomed and will soon both be history anyway - along with the rest of us.
Once they can no longer prop up the economy with borrowed money and fiat currency it will all come crashing down and the survivors will start anew.


15 posted on 06/11/2012 7:28:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Paladins Prayer

I don’t buy the premise that the parties are the same any more than the one that Romney is just as bad as Obama. I’m no fan of Mitt Romney by a long shot, but he doesn’t believe a mixture of Marxist, socialist, and fascist ideologies like President Obama. Also, despite the fact that there are moderate Republicans who collude with the left, there are also some good conservatives. It’s pretty clear the conservatives are simply outnumbered. I remember Bush doing quite a bit of arm twisting in his own party to pass his “compassionate” agenda.


16 posted on 06/11/2012 7:28:58 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: carriage_hill

The GOP is the political version of “The Washington Generals”.


17 posted on 06/11/2012 7:29:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Paladins Prayer
and they fancy their point of view the enlightened one.

That's because we ARE the enlightened ones.

18 posted on 06/11/2012 7:30:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Baynative
The two parties are like Pepsi and Coke: while they sometimes do battle with a special promotion they are happy to maintain their own market share and will work together to keep Dr. Pepper out of their house.

A perfect analogy.

Even intellectual Pygmies like the Obamas could grasp the concept presented that way.


19 posted on 06/11/2012 7:33:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: dfwgator

LOL; hadn’t thought of them! Good one!


20 posted on 06/11/2012 7:41:33 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Both parties may not be the same, but there are too many in the GOP who by all rights ought to be in the treasoncrat party.

Examples:

juan mclame
lindsey grahamesty
olympia snowe
susan collins
Etc
Etc
Etc

Then there is the GOP “leadership” who are closet communists who keep pushing these limp wristed panty wetting RINO’s.

We tell them that we want a Reagan style conservative, they tell us the era of Reagan is dead and give us juan mclame.

We tell them to support those who are supported by the Tea Party, they tell us that we have to support wishy washy RINO’s because conservatives can’t get elected.

Round and round it goes every election cycle.


21 posted on 06/11/2012 7:48:24 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper ( For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Baynative
The two parties are like Pepsi and Coke:...

Very good analogy; nicely done.

22 posted on 06/11/2012 7:49:55 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: Beagle8U

No. You judge a party by it’s fruits. What we’ve gotten from Republicans is an ever growing Federal Government and shrinking liberty.


23 posted on 06/11/2012 7:57:22 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

“No. You judge a party by it’s fruits. What we’ve gotten from Republicans is an ever growing Federal Government and shrinking liberty.”

That is leadership, not the party, the base and the platform are the party.


24 posted on 06/11/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Paladins Prayer
However, since these ideologies are associated with, respectively, the Democrats and Republicans, whatever differences the ideologies breed will also manifest themselves in the parties to a great extent.

In the rank and file. In the leadership, not so much.

25 posted on 06/11/2012 8:12:19 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: DManA

>> What we’ve gotten from Republicans is <<

John Roberts, Sam Alito, Nino Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

‘Nuff said!


26 posted on 06/11/2012 8:13:49 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Yes, and would these folks rather have four more Ginsburgs, Sotomayors or Kagans?

Yes, there are similarities. Still, though, there’s no comparison between the two parties.


27 posted on 06/11/2012 8:32:17 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

There is a difference. Under Republicans, Wall Street does good and Main Street doesn’t. Under Democrats, Wall Street does good and Main Street doesn’t. See?


28 posted on 06/11/2012 8:42:32 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Paladins Prayer

Of course, they’re different.
Democrats are evil.
Republicans are stupid and spineless.
Both seem to be intent on spending us into penury.


29 posted on 06/11/2012 8:52:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Neither is upholding the Constitution. Neither is working for the betterment of the United States. Neither is looking out for American citizens. Neither can pass up an opportunity to line their pockets no matter who it hurts. Nope, sorry, don’t see a difference between the two.


30 posted on 06/11/2012 9:22:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Beagle8U

The platform - don’t make me puke. I’d be surprised if 1 in 10 republican office holders have even read the platform let alone feel bound by it.


31 posted on 06/11/2012 9:32:22 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Hawthorn

And Souter and Kennedy (half the time).

Not NEARLY ‘Nuff said!!


32 posted on 06/11/2012 9:33:44 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Paladins Prayer

They’re not the same, but...the party establishment of each has no fundamental values except perpetuation and aggrandizement of its national party. It is only the ‘fringe’ members of either party that speak out and stand up for fundamental principles of their party.


33 posted on 06/11/2012 9:35:00 AM PDT by HDCochran
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To: DManA

“The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work, and then they get elected and prove it.”-
P. J. O’Rourke


34 posted on 06/11/2012 9:46:15 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Paladins Prayer
Republican Values

I do not think "Democrat Values" are the same.

  1. RKBA
  2. Individual rights/not "special rights"
  3. Freedom of Speech (for thee and for me)
  4. Protecting the sanctity of life (not infanticide)
  5. Protecting marriage (from the reprobates)
  6. Protecting religious freedom (not freedom "from" religion)
  7. Protecting private property

To name a few existing differences.

35 posted on 06/11/2012 11:20:24 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Paladins Prayer
the democrats are the party of liars, hustlers and perverts. the republicans are the party of wimps and cowards. take your pick.


36 posted on 06/11/2012 1:27:09 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Hawthorn

Your argument is completely moot. Thanks to Roberts, the latest in the long line of failed Republican court appointees, the work of the court is now complete. There is no Constitutional limit to Congress doing anything it pleases. So it is completely irrelevant who the next nominee is.

There are other reasons to elect Romney but picking the next SCCOTUS justice isn’t one of them. It just doesn’t matter.


37 posted on 06/30/2012 10:46:37 AM PDT by DManA
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