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Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | June 11, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

[BlackElk]

Ah, the actual idiot question.

Here's is an actual conservative answer: 1. As to pro-death and pro-abortion, Bill Clinton was worse. Obozo is to incompetent to enact any laws. Clinton enacted the "Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act" that largely shut down abortion mill "Rescues" which actually saved many babies which mouth and press releases and middle class respectability do not. Clinton also ruthlessly deployed the "A" team of leftist ideologue Justice Department lawyers to persecute pro-lifers under RICO before FACE was enacted.

2. Pro-Marxist? Obozo is not pro-Marxist. He is Marxist. So was Clinton. If you doubt this, find the investigative journalism of R. Emmett Tyrrell (of American Spectator fame) against Clinton in which he explored Billy Jeff's ideology with two former members of the Czechoslovakian Communist Central Committee who were the embittered out of power parents of Billy Jeff's now dead Oxford roommate who died in an archeological dig. Those two marveled over Billy Jeff, saying in wonder that he understood everything!

3. Romney does not give a rat's patoot for "free enterprise." He believes in Wall Street crony capitalism which is a very different item and ONLY benefits the rich and spoiled at the expense of everyone else. Romney would be an enthusiast for such disgraces as TARP.

4. The jury is out on pro-Muzzie. Like most modern Demonrats, Obozo does not inspire fear in our nation's enemies. He did get Osama and some others by using crack forces like the SEALS and advanced technology like the drones. No one in Romney's immediate family (he has five sons) and no one in his ancestry appears ever to have served in the military. All of them always just tooooo busy (Gol darn it!) on missionary duty for LDS. His dad destroyed his political career by lamely claiming that he had been "brainwashed" to support the Viet Nam War. George Romney made even Nelson Rockefeller look like George S. Patton, Jr. Myth undoubtedly regards military action as a useless distraction that costs him tax money that he prefers to put to work acquiring and dismembering companies that foolishly employ Americans, shipping the jobs and the equipment to Bangladesh and yukking it up with his buddies in the board room as families (many of whose breadwinners HAVE served in the military) are destroyed and impoverished.

5. Anti-American? Jimmuh Cahtuh and his Panama Canal Treaty are right up there. Likewise the globaloney of Bush the Elder. Eisenhower's eagerness to end the Korean War WITHOUT victory. Truman's firing of Douglas MacArthur. Obozo is among them but not head and shoulders above them for pro-Americanism.

6. Anti-free enterprise and also anti-free enterprise. Obozo and Myth Romney are similarly enthusiastic for crony capitalism which is not to be confused with the real thing.

7. Most destructive and divisive administration ever? Apparently you have forgotten Clinton after a bit more than a dozen short years. Jimmuh Cahtuh was a divisive and destructive mess of the first order. Lyndon Johnson is up there. So is Richard Nixon. Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Herbert Hoover, Woodrow Wilson, William Howard Taft and those are just 20th century guys.

Now while Obozo may be the current record-holder on a couple of those, Romney would be no better (except for Muffie's trust fund) and, since he claims to be a "Republican," he will destroy the GOP as the conservative opposition party by being at least as bad as the clueless Herbert Hoover whose stupidity destroyed the GOP brand for 20 years completely and for another 20 years beyond that of people remembering his absolutely horrible tenure and totally destructive policies. That happens when the GOP elects progressive idiots as GOP presidents.

There's the specific answer to your specific question.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"(Willard's) dad destroyed his political career by lamely claiming that he had been "brainwashed" to support the Viet Nam War. George Romney made even Nelson Rockefeller look like George S. Patton, Jr."

Sen. Eugene McCarthy's response to learning of George's self-admitted "brainwashing" declared it to be a "light rinse."

[EternalVigilance]

Who do you think has the power to determine what natural law is?

All of us.

It's self-evident, or, to put it in the modern vernacular, as plain as the nose on your face.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

---

"Every word employed in the Constitution is to be expounded in its plain, obvious, and common sense, unless the context furnishes some ground to control, qualify, or enlarge it. Constitutions are not designed for metaphysical or logical subtleties, for niceties of expression, for critical propriety, for elaborate shades of meaning, or for the exercise of philosophical acuteness or judicial research. They are instruments of a practical nature, rounded on the common business of human life, adapted to common wants, designed for common use, and fitted for common understandings. The people make them, the people adopt them, the people must be supposed to read them, with the help of common-sense, and cannot be presumed to admit in them any recondite meaning or any extraordinary gloss."

-- Joseph Story, Constitution (5th ed.) 345, SS 451.

[EternalVigilance]

John Brown’s way is not the way of the Constitution.

I agree. He mistakenly thought he, a private citizen, was a law unto himself, and took the law into his own hands.

I don't believe in that at all.

What I do believe in is that every officer of government should keep his or her sacred oath to support and defend the Constitution.

Which says:

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

And states as its crowning purpose:

"[T]o secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."

As our first president, George Washington, said, "Government is force."

[EternalVigilance]

Thanks for the ping to read the newer posts. I’ve been pretty busy and hadn’t seen them.

I’ve answered a couple of posts above, and will try and read, and perhaps respond, further as I have the opportunity.

God bless you for your adherence to the self-evident truths, and the timeless principles, of our free republic’s founding.

[EternalVigilance]

The President is elected to (among other things) enforce the laws as passed by the Legislative branch and as interpreted by the Judicial branch.

When I went to school they still taught about constitutional checks and balances between the several branches of government.

It makes a mockery of the oath of office to say that the executive can't interpret the Constitution he has sworn to support. In fact, he must do so in order to fulfill any of his duties.

If he believes that a law duly passed by the Congress is constitutional, he is duty-bound to enforce it.

But, if the legislative branch has passed a law that he believes to be unconstitutional, he is duty-bound to oppose it by every lawful means.

Same goes for court opinions.

That is, in this Republic, “the way it has always been done” - and inasmuch as we still follow our Constitution - it has worked out pretty well - MUCH BETTER than a system where one man is the final arbiter of what is or is not ‘God’s law’.

"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution."

-- Abraham Lincoln

[Lakeshark]

This is so much fun, you make my point with your post. You have cited a dozen names to help you battle the idea that Hussein is the worst.......it took you a dozen names to equal his insanity. I posted this earlier, it took me two minutes of memory to make a small partial list of what Hussein has done, I could make another list every two minutes for a long, long time, and each one would eclipse all the bad done by your list of men and that in 3 1/2 short years, and you want to give him another 4. Congrats, here’s your sign. THE PLANET STUPIDER; I want four more years of the same! (h/t Rush) : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2897567/posts?page=430#430

[EternalVigilance]

"These communities [the Fathers of the Republic], by their representatives in old Independence Hall, said to the whole world of men: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'

This was their majestic interpretation of the economy of the Universe. This was their lofty, and wise, and noble understanding of the justice of the Creator to his creatures.

Yes, gentlemen, to all his creatures, to the whole great family of man. In their enlightened belief, nothing stamped with the Divine image and likeness was sent into the world to be trodden on and degraded, and imbruted by its fellows. They grasped not only the whole race of man then living, but they reached forward and seized upon the farthest posterity. They erected a beacon to guide their children, and their children's children, and the countless myriads who should inhabit the earth in other ages.

Wise statesmen as they were, they knew the tendency of prosperity to breed tyrants, and so they established these great self-evident truths, that when in the distant future some man, some faction, some interest, should set up the doctrine that none but rich men, or none but white men, or none but Anglo-Saxon white men, were entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, their posterity might look up again to the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew the battle which their fathers began, so that truth and justice and mercy and all the humane and Christian virtues might not be extinguished from the land; so that no man would hereafter dare to limit and circumscribe the great principles on which the temple of liberty was being built.

"Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines conflicting with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence; if you have listened to suggestions which would take away from its grandeur and mutilate the fair symmetry of its proportions; if you have been inclined to believe that all men are not created equal in those inalienable rights enumerated by our chart of liberty, let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountain whose waters spring close by the blood of the Revolution. Think nothing of me — take no thought for the political fate of any man whomsoever — but come back to the truths that are in the Declaration of Independence. You may do anything with me you choose, if you will but heed these sacred principles. You may not only defeat me for the Senate, but you may take me and put me to death. While pretending no indifference to earthly honors, I do claim to be actuated in this contest by something higher than an anxiety for office. I charge you to drop every paltry and insignificant thought for any man's success. It is nothing; I am nothing; Judge Douglas is nothing. But do not destroy that immortal emblem of Humanity — the Declaration of American Independence."

-- Abraham Lincoln, speech in Lewiston, Illinois, August 17, 1858, four days before his first historic debate with Stephen A. Douglas, Printed in the Chicago Press and Tribune.

[Lakeshark]

And I did notice that you had to ping a long list of people to help you, trust me, you seem to need it.....

Good night.

[Lurker]

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing....

[Lakeshark]

Oh and remember,

"The Dwarves is for the Dwarves"

And Tolkien would have approved........

[EternalVigilance]

Other than Mitt Romney, can you name another governor, of any party, in any state, who:

1) Pushed through socialized medicine, complete with $50 co-pay taxpayer-funded abortions.

2) Thoroughly homosexualized state government and the public schools.

3) Instituted homosexual fake marriage.

4) Permanently banned the exact sort of firearms that in 1775 the British Redcoats marched out to Concord and Lexington to try and confiscate?

Just one.

[EternalVigilance]

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing....

I guess time will tell.

But the principles I'm representing signify much more than nothing, no matter what you, or I, say about them.

They are, as Fredrick Douglass said in 1852, the "ring-bolt of our nation's destiny."

"[T]he Declaration of Independence is the RINGBOLT to the chain of your nation's destiny...The principles contained in that instrument are saving principles. Stand by those principles, be true to them on all occasions, in. all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost.

From the round top of your ship of state, dark and threatening clouds may be seen. Heavy billows, like mountains in the distance, disclose to the leeward huge forms of flinty rocks! That bolt drawn, that chain, broken, and all is lost. Cling to...its principles, with the grasp of a storm-tossed mariner to a spar at midnight."

[Lurker]

Let me know whe you’re on the ballot in all 50 States. Until then, it’s all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[EternalVigilance]

Well, it would be a lot easier if so many who call themselves conservatives weren’t busy supporting what they say they hate.

[Lurker]

Before you attend to the mote in your neighbors eye, attend to the beam in thine own.

[EternalVigilance]

Well, explain what it is then, so I can.

[Lurker]

Arrogance and pride.

[EternalVigilance]

I’m talking with groups of conservatives all over the land on a daily basis.

They almost unanimously agree with me about Romney, and about the state of the GOP. They also say that they agree with my principles and policy positions.

But at least half of them are so locked in fear that they say they will support what they say they hate.

So, please, explain to me how my statements of the facts of the matter, that even Romney supporters regularly admit to be true, is somehow an exhibition of “arrogance and pride.”

Because, by golly, if I’m guilty of that I sure need to repent.

[Lurker]

Like I said, arrogance and pride. You have them in abundance.