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Watch Live: George Zimmerman Attends Second Bond Hearing
http://www.wftv.com/s/watchlive/ ^ | 6/29/2012 | WFTV

Posted on 06/29/2012 9:11:26 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

Watch Live: George Zimmerman Attends Second Bond Hearing

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bond; duplicate; hearing; live; sourcetitlenoturl; zimmerman
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do we have anyone with enough legal expertise to tell us when the ruling might come down?


21 posted on 06/29/2012 12:53:22 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Uncle Chip

Team Crump didn’t fare well today. Crump did do a pretty good imitation of a man getting kicked in the nuts. I finally got interested enough to figure out who Trayvon’s little brother was that DeeCee referred to. I was Brandy Green’s 14 year old son that was left with Trayvon when she and Trayvon’s dad went out that night.

That brings up the question of why they didn’t ask the fourteen year old where Trayvon went. It was the fourteen year old that supposedly wanted the skittles. Tryavon went out before 7:00 pm and was still gone at 2:00 am the next day. I would have checked the neighborhood and at least gone to the 7-Eleven when the fourteen year old old me Trayvon didn’t come back.

The father must be carrying a boatload of guilt if he hasn’t rationalized it away. Same for the mother. With both of them on a pity tour capitalizing on their son’s death, their collective conscious seems to have been kicked to the curb.


22 posted on 06/29/2012 1:02:09 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: CurlyDave
I think the law in Florida gives him a certain amount of time to reach a decision -- not sure what that is.

O'Mara said that the Judge has 8 to 10 hours of evidence he has to review before making a decision.

Odds are on other websites that he will leave town for an undisclosed vacation location and phone his decision in.

23 posted on 06/29/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: meatloaf

From the police report it appears that Trayvon had been there for about a week since his suspension. That’s what Traydad told the police. A week of unsupervised suspension.

I’ll bet the 14 year old would say that Tray came and went at all hours of the day and night, and the fact that he wasn’t around from 6 to whenever was not out of the ordinary.

I’m sure the parents are carrying a load of guilt, but dumping it on GZ just adds insult to injury. They should be ashamed to darken the doors of a church.


24 posted on 06/29/2012 1:21:08 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Today what was entered into the court record was the testimony that TM was not so "unarmed" as the media has been saying repeatedly:

EMT O'Rourke says when he arrived at the scene, about 45 percent of Zimmerman's head and face was covered in blood.

He suggested Zimmerman needed stitches in his head, and says he "absolutely" had a broken nose. O'Rourke says Zimmerman's injuries were consistent with being struck by a "hard object."

What could that "hard object" wielded by the allegedly "unarmed" Trayvon Martin have been???

25 posted on 06/29/2012 1:46:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

There is almost no way a marginal student can recover from a two week suspension from school, especially if he is left unsupervised. You might think that his parents would be demanding that he spend all of his time studying and doing homework, strictly confined to the house. Staying out late at night would seem to be ruled out completely, not only for the student, but also for his parents.

The effect of many news articles and editorials on this subject changes dramatically if you substitute the word “unsupervised” for the word “unarmed.” e.g., “Mr. Martin was un-(————) when he encountered Mr. Zimmerman.”


26 posted on 06/29/2012 3:18:52 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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To: manforallseasons

Was Tracy Martin’s girlfriend/fiancee, Brandy Green at the bond hearing? She seems to have disappeared entirely from public view a few months ago.


27 posted on 06/29/2012 3:22:34 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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To: manforallseasons
Was Tracy Martin’s girlfriend/fiancee, Brandy Green at the bond hearing?

Nope.

28 posted on 06/29/2012 3:58:17 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
From the police report it appears that Trayvon had been there for about a week since his suspension.

But ... but ... but ... didn’t you tell me that Trayvon only arrived in Sanford that Sunday afternoon???

O'Mara tried to get the judge to agree that the prosecution couldn't cross-examine Zimmerman if he took the stand. Instead he suggested that the judge only ask questions of Zimmerman. Wow, just wow.

Have you seen the new website started by Grace Zimmerman, George's sister? Of course, she's looking for more money. Click here to donate.

29 posted on 06/29/2012 4:02:40 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip
There are laws against wearing hoodies in Florida

Shirley you can't be serious?

Does the University of Florida Levine College of Law know about that law?

Call out the Fashion Police SWAT team and bust those scofflaws!

30 posted on 06/29/2012 4:23:33 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Beach_Babe
But ... but ... but ... didn’t you tell me that Trayvon only arrived in Sanford that Sunday afternoon???

I did but then I read the police report in which Traydad told the detective that he'd been there for a week. If you wish to repost your conspiracy theory again, I promise to reconsider it in light of the new evidence.

O'Mara tried to get the judge to agree that the prosecution couldn't cross-examine Zimmerman if he took the stand. Instead he suggested that the judge only ask questions of Zimmerman.

I think that's the way it works in an SYG hearing, and being that that will be next on the agenda, that's not an unusual request.

Zimmerman didn't need to take the stand today. O'Mara did enough damage to the prosecution's case today with what he submitted into evidence that GZ may never have to take the witness stand.

On the otherhand Sybrina was there. Where was her testimony??? And where is DeeDee and that toxicology report??? and Brandy Green -- did she fall off the planet???

31 posted on 06/29/2012 4:52:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Oztrich Boy

Try wearing one into your bank and see how far you get.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 5:04:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Oztrich Boy

<>There are laws against wearing hoodies in Florida. Shirley you can’t be serious? Does the University of Florida Levine College of Law know about that law?<>

They should:

CRIMINAL ANARCHY, TREASON, AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

876.12:Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way. No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/876.12


33 posted on 06/29/2012 6:25:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Are you saying that when SYG is claimed by the defense, the prosecutor is not allowed to cross examine the defendant ... if the defendant testifies ... during the trial? I assume, like today, George will never take the stand.

Although O’Mara tried to turn today’s proceedings into a mini-trial, it was just supposed to be a bond hearing. I suppose the testimony of the witnesses will happen at the actual trial.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
I will never understand the people who think that it's just fine and dandy to just lock people accused of crimes in jail, while they await trial, for days, weeks, months and even years!
As if jail was just a neutral mini-med vacation from life or something.

George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.
No question or argument about that exists.He did not run and hide. There was no element of “capturing” him involved.
The why and how of Martins death was supposedly under impartial police investigation, before this whole media/political farcical circus began.

Would you care to spend days, weeks, months or even years locked up in jail before the government deigns to schedule your trial?

WTF is wrong with you people?!!!

The primary point of the SYG law is that we, the people, do NOT want to add insult to injury, and peremptorily punish the survivor of a lethal criminal confrontation for merely successfully defending his/her self.

This is not a game or a TV show.

35 posted on 06/29/2012 7:57:42 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Beach_Babe
My understanding is that it is between he and the judge, and if the judge believes him then it is over. But it can turn into a mini-trial if the judge so chooses.

Although O’Mara tried to turn today’s proceedings into a mini-trial, it was just supposed to be a bond hearing.

Well part of the bond determination process is the strength of the case of the prosecution, and all along the judge has been saying how strong the case is against GZ. So today MoM presented evidence to show how weak the state's case really is, and thus why bond should be minimal.

I suppose the testimony of the witnesses will happen at the actual trial.

Why wait. Start putting things into the court record right now if you got them. Show how strong the state's case is -- if you have a case.

Today MoM entered into the court record the testimony of the EMT, GZ's statements, the statements of 3 witnesses, the testimony of GZ's father, a 911 tape and the testimony of a forensic accountant regarding the Paypal money, and dared BDLR to call witnesses to counter their testimony.

Sybrina was right there in court with Tracy and he didn't call them even though they are half his case, and he alluded to DeeDee but she will never take the witness stand because MoM will ask her about TM's drug use and she will sing like a bird.

What today showed is that all the state has is the tired old mantra "GZ lied" without any evidence that he lied. In a moment of frustration BDLR blurted out their theory: "he profiled him, chased him down, and shot him". Great BDLR, if you believe that then present your evidence for your imaginative speculation. Let's see it. There is none. He knows it and the judge knows it and Team Skittles know it. It was written all over their faces today.

MoM presented enough evidence today that a reasonable judge would dismiss all charges and send everybody home and save all parties a lot of time and money.

Right now he's having a John Roberts crisis of conscience, and so is anyone who watched this hearing today with any kind of rational mind.

36 posted on 06/29/2012 8:20:26 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sarasmom
WTF is wrong with you people?!!!

My, my ...

If I remember correctly, it was Mr. O'Mara who waived Mr. Zimmerman's right to a speedy trial.

I don't give a rat's a$$ is he gets out on bond or not. And if it is deemed a higher bond, I'm sure you'll dig deeper into your pocket. To make it easier, there's a link above to Grace Zimmerman's "gimme money" page.

BTW, the author of Florida's SYG law stated it did not apply in this instance ... but time will tell.

37 posted on 06/29/2012 8:20:53 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip
The "SECOND BAIL HEARING" was about whether George Zimmerman should be let out a jail a SECOND TIME after he was ordered to return back to JAIL ... after defrauding the court.
38 posted on 06/29/2012 8:33:01 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe

Thanks for the link, I just donated again.


39 posted on 06/29/2012 8:37:24 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Beach_Babe
No -- you're wrong. Today the court was back to square one in that regard. If he committed perjury, then why hasn't the prosecution so charged him -- because he didn't. Sitting like a potted plant is not perjury and the judge knows it. Perjury is very specific.

And the forensic accountant today testified that all the moneys were accounted for and there was no deception in the bank transfers. And there was nothing illegal about any of those financial transfers.

The state may have wanted it to be about deceiving the court, but it's not Shellie on trial but George.

In a bond hearing, the strength of the state's case is a part of the bond determination and today the illusion of the state's case came apart -- big time. If these things were not supposed to be part of the bond hearing, then why did the judge allow them and the prosecution fail to object, and all these things damning to the state's case become part of the court record???

40 posted on 06/29/2012 8:53:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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