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On the Precipice Of a New Energy Source?
Journal of Petroleum Technology ^ | July 2012 | Steve Jacobs, COO, and Patrick Leach, CEO, Decision Strategies

Posted on 07/07/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by Kevmo

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To: Toddsterpatriot

Don’t cry.
***Oh, so you’re a guns & roses fan?

Lyrics for their song “Don’t Cry”, modified just for you.

Talk to me softly
There is something in your eyes
Don’t hang your head in sorrow
And please don’t cry
I know how you feel inside I’ve
I’ve been there before
Somethin is changin’ inside you
And don’t you know

Don’t you cry tonight
I still love you baby
Don’t you cry tonight
Toddsterpatriot
There’s a heaven above you baby
And don’t you cry tonight

Give me a whisper
And give me a sign
Give me a kiss before you
tell me goodbye
Don’t you take it so hard now
And please don’t take it so bad
I’ll still be thinkin’ of you
And the times we had...baby

And don’t you cry tonight
Don’t you cry tonight
Toddsterpatriot
There’s a heaven above you baby
And don’t you cry tonight

And please remember that I never lied
And please remember
how I felt inside now honey
You gotta make it your own way
But you’ll be alright now Todd
You’ll feel better tomorrow
Toddsterpatriot

And don’t you cry tonight
And don’t you cry tonight
Toddsterpatriot
There’s a heaven above you baby
And don’t you cry
Don’t you ever cry
Don’t you cry tonight
Baby maybe someday
Don’t you cry
Don’t you ever cry
Don’t you cry
Toddsterpatriot


101 posted on 07/10/2012 10:34:04 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Like it or not, the above scenario fits more of the publicly avialable data than any other.
***Occham’s Razor


102 posted on 07/10/2012 10:36:53 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How can you say that? How many gallons of “coolant” did he push though the system? What if it wasn’t coolant?
***Rehashing. Those scenarios were covered more than a year ago.

How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real (or fake)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730401/posts
Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM · by Kevmo · 54 replies
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher


103 posted on 07/10/2012 10:42:34 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
You left out the part about whining to the mods.
And Kevmo isn't spelled “Toddsterpatriot”.
104 posted on 07/11/2012 5:24:04 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kevmo
***Rehashing. Those scenarios were covered more than a year ago.

Yes. And since he apparently didn't let anyone test his "coolant" there is still no proof it was only water.

105 posted on 07/11/2012 5:28:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Moonman62

Non pascentur mendax troglodytae


106 posted on 07/11/2012 6:01:07 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"How can you say that? How many gallons of "coolant" did he push though the system? What if it wasn't coolant?"

LOL. The flow through the system was measured multiple ways in every experiment. And any sufficiently reactive chemical would be immediately apparent by color, viscosity, or other indicator (peroxide is often assumed...in the presence of the metals of the reactor, H2O2 would come out as foam...immediately visible).

"If they're only looking with their eyes, how good is the evidence?"

You perhaps missed all the instrumentation used??? Some of which the observers sneaked in and of which Rossi was not immediately aware (although they "did" stop when he so requested).

All of which above points show, that like all chronic skeptics, you have NOT examined the evidence, but are speculating.

107 posted on 07/11/2012 6:08:52 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The flow through the system was measured multiple ways in every experiment.

Apparently they dumped the "coolant" down the drain.

You perhaps missed all the instrumentation used???

If Rossi brought his E-Cat to an outside location and allowed the independent observers to set up the water flow and their own instruments, without looking at his "secrets", then the readings would be more credible.

All of which above points show, that like all chronic skeptics, you have NOT examined the evidence, but are speculating.

When an independent third party runs the E-Cat, I'd love to examine some real evidence.

Maybe I'll just buy a retail E-Cat, when does WalMart start selling them? Anytime now? 2014? 2020?

108 posted on 07/11/2012 6:20:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yes. And since he apparently didn’t let anyone test his “coolant” there is still no proof it was only water.
***Exactly what ‘coolant replacement’ could account for the levels of energy reported? If this is a chemical reaction, then all the better, because the NRC would not be involved.


109 posted on 07/11/2012 8:53:25 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Kevmo isn’t spelled “Toddsterpatriot”.
***The song doesn’t sound right with only 2 syllables at that spot.


110 posted on 07/11/2012 8:56:42 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
Exactly what ‘coolant replacement’ could account for the levels of energy reported?

How much energy did he report?

111 posted on 07/11/2012 9:25:16 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Apparently they dumped the "coolant" down the drain."

So?? The witnesses had acess to the drain pipe, and observed what was coming out. We're talking about easily observable evidence. And the witnesses certainly had open access to the WATER as it was going into the system. I repeat, any one with a reasonable background in chemistry would observe differences, just with the naked eye (I make that statement as a PhD chemist, with fifty years of lab experience). Chemicals with the energy density you're talking about are damned dangerous. Even peroxide, at the strength needed, is liable to "undergo dangerous transitions". We're not talking about the stuff in your medicine cabinet, which is diluted, but at a concentration well above 90%. "I" wouldn't want to be in the same room where someone was feeding that into a metal reactor (iron works very nicely to catalyze the decomposition of peroxide into water and oxygen, explosively) Such chemistries are difficult to control.

"If Rossi brought his E-Cat to an outside location and allowed the independent observers to set up the water flow and their own instruments, without looking at his "secrets", then the readings would be more credible."

More credible, yes. But you and the rest of the knee-jerk skeptics assign a value of zero to the existing data set, which is flatly bogus.

"When an independent third party runs the E-Cat, I'd love to examine some real evidence.

As would we all. But there is real evidence already on the table. To disregard that completely is, as I said, bogus.

112 posted on 07/11/2012 10:10:54 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Moonman62

Don’t post to me either!!


113 posted on 07/11/2012 10:39:04 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Wonder Warthog
So?? The witnesses had acess to the drain pipe, and observed what was coming out.

So it looked like water? Is that the proof that it was water?

And the witnesses certainly had open access to the WATER as it was going into the system.

Was it going in directly from the tap?

"I" wouldn't want to be in the same room where someone was feeding that into a metal reactor

Did he show the observers the inside of the device? Could they see the nickel powder?

More credible, yes.

Yes.

But you and the rest of the knee-jerk skeptics assign a value of zero to the existing data set, which is flatly bogus.

Considering Rossi's past, can you blame our knees?

So how much "excess" energy did he produce? He warmed how much water how many degrees?

114 posted on 07/11/2012 10:40:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Sorry, Todd-boy, but you're proving yourself to be just another troll. Interested only in throwing stones rather than in discerning the truth based on evidence. Bye-bye!

Non cibos troglodytae!

115 posted on 07/11/2012 3:27:50 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Yeah, I wouldn’t want to go on record defending Rossi either.
Run away!


116 posted on 07/11/2012 4:39:14 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

About a thousand times more than any known chemical reaction could account for. Just like all the other LENR researchers. But you would already know that, having informed yourself on the topic before you went spouting off your ridiculous opinions, right?


117 posted on 07/11/2012 4:58:49 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
About a thousand times more than any known chemical reaction could account for.

That's not true.

118 posted on 07/11/2012 5:05:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Non cibos troglodytae!


119 posted on 07/11/2012 6:06:05 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: dennisw
Posted by dennisw on July 30,2011:

If you think Rossi is a liar then don’t buy one of his first 1KW units. Rossi could be a faker but we’ll soon know when these 1KW units are rolled out. Link.

It's been almost a year. Where are they?

120 posted on 07/11/2012 6:15:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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