Posted on 07/09/2012 7:43:54 PM PDT by MaryLou1
How can Romney beat Obama when almost half of the country is on government assistance?
The poll numbers amazed me-how can Obama be that close (or even beat) Romney in the polls?
Because the takers won't vote to cut their aid-why would they?
Illegals who don't have to show ID will take those numbers over the top and Obama will win by default.
reference source for the statistics: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/07/news/economy/government_assistance/index.htm
Sometimes personal dignity has it's price when a person never valued it in the first place
p.s. this country was founded by people who rejected government control-how dare they take a country that restored and fought for self reliance and turn it into a nation of slaves?
The slaves on the plantation were controlled too, but they had their food and lodging paid for-and guess what? they didn't like it, they wanted freedom.
Imagine that!
I can think of several reasons why I wouldn’t want an habitual gambler working around in a hospital. Maybe she has a criminal record you don’t know about.
I did some research on these two. A real pair of lowlifes. They likely don’t have a criminal record, but they sure have figured out how to survive off of us. My opinion is that neither will EVER work a legitimate job again if Obama is re-elected. I pity their children.
Having had some experience with gambling addicts it’s probably best neither of them ever have legitimate employment.
“They are entitled to their (SS) money.”
Ooh, and we have a liar!
I said, they are entitled to their money.
They are not entitled to mine. Social Security is collecting money from me, to pay them, just like a ponzi scheme.
“why did you call them welfare cheats and thieves?”
They are theives insofar as they advocate stealing from other people in order to ‘get theirs’. Did I take money from them? No. Then why are they taking money from me? It’s not right.
So you’re in favor of killing social security now?
You also said and or clearly implied they're, "Welfare cheats and thieves”.
Which is it?
Ooh, and we have a liar!
We do?
Did you not say this in regards to Social Security?
If not, WTF are you talking about?
“The immense debt piled up that’s owed to Social Security was devised to smooth the transition of the Boomers through their older years.”
And it’s been spent on goodies already.
“Repudiating that debt is probably not in your best interest.”
There are simply not enough young folks to pay it all. There are several options though.
1, raising taxes to 75 percent on everyone, just like it was pre-boomer era. That would be a nice FU to the folks like me trying to climb the ladder in the first place. It would ensure that the Boomers did ‘get there’s’ but would bring on a second Great depression.
2, keep taxes where they are and keep the payouts. This will run up the debt. The US is already at 120 percent of debt to GDP. Running 10 percent year over year deficits for 20 years to ensure that the boomers get theres, would leave us with a debt of close to 300 percent of GDP. Interest payments alone at 5 percent would amount to 15 percent of the US GDP. So, while that is a ‘solution’, it would destroy the US.
3, Eliminating social security. This would end the ponzi scheme, preserve the republic and ensure that the US has a future.
So which is your choice? 1 or 2 or 3? Please tell me.
“As far as being fiscally sound, any country with $100 trillion in assets in one small area is not in trouble.”
You’ve got your head in the sand.
“Worked for Greece, worked for Rome, worked for the Persians, the Chinese, the ancient Koreans, everybody did it that way.”
Ahahahahaha. Europe is broke. Even if you could get them to collect, you’d never get a dime.
“Did you not say this in regards to Social Security?”
You altered my statement. That is a lie.
I said it very clearly. As long as Social security is collecting money from young people and paying it to older ones, it is generational theft.
If social security operated the way it should, your money would still be there in Kerry’s purported lockbox. That it is not, is not my problem. It does not excuse your theft that other people stole from you. I didn’t steal a dime, and you are stealing from me.
Now, if that’s difficult for you to grasp, I don’t know what to say.
You altered my statement. That is a lie.
Listen, I asked you a simple legitimate question which you're now evading.
Did you not say this in regards to Social Security?
“Did you not say this in regards to Social Security?”
Why did you alter it?
Why did you alter it?
Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.
BTW slick, did ya see the parentheses used?
Now are you going to answer the question, or play your stupid little game of deceit?
“BTW slick, did ya see the parentheses used?”
And why did you add them?
What a lying deceitful piece of work you are.
Since you evaded the question multiple times...
See the tagline! You defined it el perfecto.
See ya!
Heh, I’m not the one rewriting people’s words, *just because*.
Again, you go to bankruptcy court they aren't concerned with just your cash in hand, they want to know where your assets are ~ even those you thought were hidden.
The US Government has assets to pledge against debt. That should be done first before tossing the old folks into the streets ~
Ya see the Internet makes a great witness. Anyone can read back to see why questions are being evaded.
Watching people like you answer a question with a question, is a real kick! It's like a written confession!
Those who repeatedly evade questions, like you, do so for good reason.
Anytime you want to play, ping me.
Why did you change what I wrote?
“The US Government has assets to pledge against debt. That should be done first before tossing the old folks into the streets.”
The first thing that has to be done is to enact fiscal sanity. That means getting rid of social security.
You’re right, we should do everything possible. However, what you aren’t getting is that if we just keep kicking the can down the road (like you propose), the money going to the seniors isn’t going to be there. What then? Your answer seems to be ‘borrow more’. See, this is why my generation is getting so pissed off at the folks on the dole.
THERE ISN’T GOING TO BE MONEY TO PAY OUT SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE THE YOUNGUNS DON”T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
Say we give all of you your quarter million. That’s about 60 million people x 250 thousand, or 15 TRILLION dollars.
That’s right, 15 TRILLION dollars. You’re willing to bankrup the nation rather than avert fiscal apocalypse. Some of us have to live in the America left to come.
And certainly not at the pitiful $6,000,000,000,000 borrowed from Social Security to pay for government backed mortgages and educational loans.
You have, at a minimum, $100 TRILLION in negotiable assets in just one hydrocarbon site. There are several other sites of possibly equal value.
Someone with $100 trillion in assets cannot plead poverty as an excuse in the face of a mere $6 trillion debt.
To invoke the privilege of age and class warfare as justification for screwing the creditors is ridiculous.
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