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Obama Team Believes 3rd Party Candidates Can Help In Battle Ground States
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/obama-team-believes-3rd-party-candidates-can-help-them-win ^ | 9/6/2012 | WASHINGTON (AP)

Posted on 08/06/2012 6:50:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

Edited on 08/06/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Barack Obama’s re-election effort is paying close attention to two candidates mounting third-party campaigns for the presidency, believing they could draw votes from Republican rival Mitt Romney and help Obama win a few tightly contested states.

One candidate is Virgil Goode, a former conservative Virginia congressman who is running as a member of the Constitution Party....."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bho2012; dncstrategy; elections; goode; goode2012; johnson; nobama2012; obama; romney; thirdparty
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To: JRandomFreeper

No. I know what Romney is. He is the establishment candidate, for whom the GOP has decided it is “his turn.”

He is not anywhere near what I would like to see in a candidate (although I did think he was a better choice than McCain in 2008).

But, he is the GOP candidate, and is the only one with a realistic chance to defeat Obama in this election cycle.

So, my choice is either support him, and possibly get Obama out of office, or resign myself to four more years of Obama.

I choose to try to get rid of Obama.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 7:19:36 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: longtermmemmory
It's really hard to get the conservative vote for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, big government liberal.

I'll be voting for the most conservative candidate from the top of the ticket to the bottom.

BTW, calling people stupid isn't going to gain your boy any votes.

/johnny

22 posted on 08/06/2012 7:19:59 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: longtermmemmory
One candidate is Virgil Goode, a former conservative Virginia congressman who is running as a member of the Constitution Party. The other is Gary Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico who is the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee.

Goode is a New Deal, Great Society Democrat, and Johnson is a radical Liberal.

23 posted on 08/06/2012 7:20:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Diogenesis

24 posted on 08/06/2012 7:22:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Translation: ZEro cannot win on his own. He needs help from self-professed “conservatives.”


25 posted on 08/06/2012 7:24:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: EternalVigilance

It is not astounding. It is reality and the romney insiders know it. The fact is crystal clear. Obama has ALWAYS needed tricks and manuvers. He “clears the field” rather than win elections.

At least Romney is running for president rather than McCain. McCain ran a senatorial campaign for president.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The GOP would have fewer problems with 3rd party candidates if they would just run a conservative.

I've been doing my part to get one elected since Reagan.

Now I'm devoted to denying a racist, crypto marxist, terrorist sympathizing America hating POS a second term.

27 posted on 08/06/2012 7:33:20 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Good luck with that. The GOP-E has made your task really tough.

/johnny

28 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: B Knotts

even with the known flaws of Romney, there is little odds favoring the signing of radical socialist treaties.

We also have to focus on the senate and the house.


29 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

While Romney is NOT my first, second, or third choice, better to have him than four more years of Obama. Four more years would be the doom of this country.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: longtermmemmory

31 posted on 08/06/2012 7:39:39 AM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: B Knotts
We tried, and failed, to get a more conservative GOP candidate. We need to figure out how to do that for the next election cycle.

The pattern for 2012 was similar to 2008 -- have several 'conservatives' run to dilute the votes. It worked. Even when it was obvious that Gingrich could not win, he hung on. Even when it was obvious that Santorum could not win, he hung on. Neither apparently wanted to give ground, and that gave the nomination to Romney.

Next election cycle? Pick one or two strong conservatives early, and settle on one to take the banner early (as in January or February). That is how a conservative might win. But having half-a-dozen in the debates and primaries only dilutes the vote and gives the nomination to the GOPe preferred candidate. [See GOP history for 2008, 2012.]

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For 2012 I don't see either the Libertarian or Conservative garnering enough votes to make much of a difference -- unless one of them turns out to be spectacular in the next month or two. And this does not appear likely.

This election cycle has not yielded itself to a strong 3rd party. The last major one -- Perot in 1992 -- had money and organization early. Unless the Dems can convince some Bloomberg or similar 'big name' to jump in, a 3rd party is not going to do much for the 2012 election.

To get Obama out of the Oval Office, Romney needs to stay on message -- the economy and joblessness [gas prices are rising again substantially]. He needs to say away from the various mine fields the Dems keep laying to try to get him off message.
32 posted on 08/06/2012 7:43:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Zhang Fei
If I were Obama, I’d be urging Democratic supporters who have maxed out their contributions to donate to Johnson and Goode. I’d also have them donate to Super PAC’s for those candidates.
I'd also have trolls working overtime on conservative forums posting stuff designed to dissuade conservatives from joining the fight to get Obama out of the WH.

Actually, I bet they're already doing all of the above.

33 posted on 08/06/2012 7:48:22 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: longtermmemmory

obama “hopes” for a “Perot”....


34 posted on 08/06/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

And you believe O’bomney is different than The One?
You can vote for the socialist left or socialist GOPe candidate.
Me... i’m done voting for the Dole’s, McLames, etc...
And please don’t give me that “you’ll be responsible for reelecting Obama” speech.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: longtermmemmory; pookie18

Freefall


36 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Red Badger
Well, they do have Barr-Sheehan.

But not enough Democrat drones willing to take the bait.

37 posted on 08/06/2012 7:59:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: B Knotts
The GOP has nominated exactly two conservative candidates since World War II ended:


38 posted on 08/06/2012 8:06:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: samtheman
See, this is the way Free Republic now works.

You're voting for Romney? Make sure you call those Freepers who disagree with you "trolls" and "Obots" and "DNC moles".

You're not voting for Romney? Make sure you call those Freepers who disagree with you "Mittbots" and "liberals" and "homo enablers".

Way to win supporters to your cause !!

39 posted on 08/06/2012 8:07:11 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: CapnJack
And please don’t give me that “you’ll be responsible for reelecting Obama” speech.

Don't worry,I won't.If admissions from the Osama Obama campaign *itself* can't convince you,what chance do *I* have? Tell me,once he's been given four more years of Executive Orders how much ammunition will *you* be buying? And don't forget to stock up on that disaster food....you know,the stuff that has a 20 year shelf life.

40 posted on 08/06/2012 8:10:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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