Posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
The conservative grassroots are slowly winning the abortion and gun rights issues from the bottom up, independently of who happens to be president. The best way for the libs to stop this progress is by stacking the federal judiciary at all levels against us, and by thwarting us with all the regulatory and behind-the-scenes bureacratic means that come with owning the executive branch. The perfect way to help them do this is to let Obama have a second term. Why should we enable them? How is this principled?
Romney is somewhere between an opportunist and a squish on social issues. But he’s not a committed ideologue like Obama. Furthermore, electing Romney isn’t just electing Romney. You’re electing a whole bureacracy that comes to power with him, and it’s going to be full of good pro-life and pro-gun people who will work behind the scenes to help our side. But this will not happen if we help Obama weasel his way into a second term.
You seriously think he’s going to be some kind of Manchurian candidate who totally defies the Republicans on judicial appointments? That just is not realistic.
Again, you are not answering the question. What does the gop need do to not get your vote? By the way, i look at the ABO crowd as the ones who have given up. I will fight.
I say he hasn’t budged an inch. He’s got conservative aides telling him what to say, but even so he sometimes reverts back to the only thing he knows. Statism. He still brags about RomneyCare. He still pushes Keynesian economics (TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, etc). He thinks these things are good and necessary. Doesn’t faze him that they’re unconstitutional. He still favors gays in the scouts, gays in the military, gay adoption. He still worries about global warming. Still wants to give the illegals amnesty. He’s still a liberal progressive. And he’s still a bald-faced liar.
Romney is somewhere between an opportunist and a squish on social issues. But hes not a committed ideologue like Obama. Furthermore, electing Romney isnt just electing Romney. Youre electing a whole bureacracy that comes to power with him, and its going to be full of good pro-life and pro-gun people who will work behind the scenes to help our side. But this will not happen if we help Obama weasel his way into a second term
You lie.
Good for you. Fight all you want. You will win zilch.
A greivous waste of time and effort. But your choice to make...
He’s not going to defy the Republicans on social issues. He would pay too much of a political cost. It’s just not going to happen. And as I just said, he’s going to be bringing a whole bunch of people with him, many of whom will be actively working for our side on critical issues like abortion and guns, which we claim to be interested in. We just need to get them in there so they can do their thing. It would be a huge mistake to sabotoge them, to keep Obama’s people there, just because we’re miffed that our guys got beat in the primaries.
Your mother smells of elderberries.
How many times do I have to post that I will not vote for a gun grabbing, abortionist, homosexualist, big government statist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded
my sil is gay, supported her during the 80’s when friends were anti-gay. One friend saying that if he had known my sil was gay, he wouldn't have attended my party. To me, anyone that is anti-family is no longer involved,. On the other hand, when anti-Conservatism is met, the gay lobby will celebrate! Wake up, do you really think that the Powers that be behind Romney are supporting your views?
What does a gop candidate have to do to make you not support him?
Good for you. Fight all you want. You will win zilch.
A greivous waste of time and effort. But your choice to make...
Thanks, that’s fine, but at the end of the day realise that when your candidate doesn’t win, you have been warned. Don’t blame it on the Conservatives that could not vote for such a bad choice. (I’m sure you will anyway)
I know. It was not his fault. Someone else did that. /sarc
Cute graphic, but it’s just political reality that Romney won’t have a free hand to defy the Republicans on social issues. Besides that, I just don’t think his heart is in social issues. He’s going to be mostly inert when it comes social issues, as opposed to Obama the thoroughly committed ideologue, who is likely to pull out all the stops to leave a fundamentally changed America in his wake when it comes to social issues.
You don’t think his being governor of a blue state with a blue legislature and a blue electorate influenced what he said in public about those issues?
Interesting question.
The problem with your position is that you overstate Romney’s negatives while completely ignoring Obama’s.
Such a statement begs the question why exactly it is that the Republican Party is working so hard to become one.
In any case, we don't need a third party. We need a second one...to defeat the existing two-legged socialist beast.
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