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Politics (as usual) is the art of the possible, but with God ALL things are possible!!
Aug 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

The conservative grassroots are slowly winning the abortion and gun rights issues from the bottom up, independently of who happens to be president. The best way for the libs to stop this progress is by stacking the federal judiciary at all levels against us, and by thwarting us with all the regulatory and behind-the-scenes bureacratic means that come with owning the executive branch. The perfect way to help them do this is to let Obama have a second term. Why should we enable them? How is this principled?

Romney is somewhere between an opportunist and a squish on social issues. But he’s not a committed ideologue like Obama. Furthermore, electing Romney isn’t just electing Romney. You’re electing a whole bureacracy that comes to power with him, and it’s going to be full of good pro-life and pro-gun people who will work behind the scenes to help our side. But this will not happen if we help Obama weasel his way into a second term.


81 posted on 08/16/2012 9:56:05 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Jim Robinson

You seriously think he’s going to be some kind of Manchurian candidate who totally defies the Republicans on judicial appointments? That just is not realistic.


82 posted on 08/16/2012 10:01:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: okie01

Again, you are not answering the question. What does the gop need do to not get your vote? By the way, i look at the ABO crowd as the ones who have given up. I will fight.


83 posted on 08/16/2012 10:03:43 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Yardstick

I say he hasn’t budged an inch. He’s got conservative aides telling him what to say, but even so he sometimes reverts back to the only thing he knows. Statism. He still brags about RomneyCare. He still pushes Keynesian economics (TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, etc). He thinks these things are good and necessary. Doesn’t faze him that they’re unconstitutional. He still favors gays in the scouts, gays in the military, gay adoption. He still worries about global warming. Still wants to give the illegals amnesty. He’s still a liberal progressive. And he’s still a bald-faced liar.


85 posted on 08/16/2012 10:11:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Yardstick

Romney is somewhere between an opportunist and a squish on social issues. But he’s not a committed ideologue like Obama. Furthermore, electing Romney isn’t just electing Romney. You’re electing a whole bureacracy that comes to power with him, and it’s going to be full of good pro-life and pro-gun people who will work behind the scenes to help our side. But this will not happen if we help Obama weasel his way into a second term

You lie.


86 posted on 08/16/2012 10:14:23 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: magglepuss
I will fight.

Good for you. Fight all you want. You will win zilch.

A greivous waste of time and effort. But your choice to make...

87 posted on 08/16/2012 10:17:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jim Robinson

He’s not going to defy the Republicans on social issues. He would pay too much of a political cost. It’s just not going to happen. And as I just said, he’s going to be bringing a whole bunch of people with him, many of whom will be actively working for our side on critical issues like abortion and guns, which we claim to be interested in. We just need to get them in there so they can do their thing. It would be a huge mistake to sabotoge them, to keep Obama’s people there, just because we’re miffed that our guys got beat in the primaries.


88 posted on 08/16/2012 10:19:51 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: magglepuss

Your mother smells of elderberries.


89 posted on 08/16/2012 10:21:10 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

How many times do I have to post that I will not vote for a gun grabbing, abortionist, homosexualist, big government statist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


90 posted on 08/16/2012 10:25:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Truth....

my sil is gay, supported her during the 80’s when friends were anti-gay. One friend saying that if he had known my sil was gay, he wouldn't have attended my party. To me, anyone that is anti-family is no longer involved,. On the other hand, when anti-Conservatism is met, the gay lobby will celebrate! Wake up, do you really think that the Powers that be behind Romney are supporting your views?

What does a gop candidate have to do to make you not support him?

91 posted on 08/16/2012 10:31:51 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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Yeah, I've seen that video several times now. Most of those quotes are from when Romney was governor of a deep blue state. I just don't think Romney is a social issues guy. I think he'll mostly defer to the Republicans on social issues. OTOH, it's certain that Obama will stack the executive branch from top to bottom with ideological lackeys and will lead the charge on social issues, especially in a second term when he has nothing to lose.
92 posted on 08/16/2012 10:34:57 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
He’s not going to defy the Republicans on social issues


93 posted on 08/16/2012 10:37:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: okie01

Good for you. Fight all you want. You will win zilch.

A greivous waste of time and effort. But your choice to make...

Thanks, that’s fine, but at the end of the day realise that when your candidate doesn’t win, you have been warned. Don’t blame it on the Conservatives that could not vote for such a bad choice. (I’m sure you will anyway)


94 posted on 08/16/2012 10:41:22 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Yardstick

I know. It was not his fault. Someone else did that. /sarc


95 posted on 08/16/2012 10:43:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Cute graphic, but it’s just political reality that Romney won’t have a free hand to defy the Republicans on social issues. Besides that, I just don’t think his heart is in social issues. He’s going to be mostly inert when it comes social issues, as opposed to Obama the thoroughly committed ideologue, who is likely to pull out all the stops to leave a fundamentally changed America in his wake when it comes to social issues.


96 posted on 08/16/2012 10:50:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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You don’t think his being governor of a blue state with a blue legislature and a blue electorate influenced what he said in public about those issues?


97 posted on 08/16/2012 10:52:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: magglepuss
Again my question What does the GOP need to do to make you not support them?

Interesting question.

98 posted on 08/16/2012 10:58:24 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The problem with your position is that you overstate Romney’s negatives while completely ignoring Obama’s.


99 posted on 08/16/2012 10:58:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: okie01
A third party is -- and will continue to be -- the dumbest political idea imaginable.

Such a statement begs the question why exactly it is that the Republican Party is working so hard to become one.

In any case, we don't need a third party. We need a second one...to defeat the existing two-legged socialist beast.

100 posted on 08/16/2012 10:59:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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