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Texas voter ID law struck down
Washington Post ^ | August 30, 2012 | Sari Horwitz and Del Quentin Wilber

Posted on 08/30/2012 10:41:22 AM PDT by unlearner

A federal court on Thursday blocked a controversial new voter ID law in Texas, ruling that the state failed to show that the law would not harm the voting rights of minorities.

The three-judge panel in the historic case said that evidence also showed that costs of obtaining a voter ID would fall most heavily on poor African Americans and Hispanics in Texas.

Evidence submitted by Texas to prove that its law did not discriminate was “unpersuasive, invalid, or both,” wrote David. S. Tatel, a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, in the panel’s 56-page opinion.

The ruling will likely have political implications in the coming elections...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; courts; election; texasvoterid; voterid
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1 posted on 08/30/2012 10:41:28 AM PDT by unlearner
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To: unlearner

bad left wing judges are killing us


2 posted on 08/30/2012 10:42:23 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: unlearner

why even bother pretending anymore?

they are rigging the elections and we all know it

yet we accept it without raging

why?


3 posted on 08/30/2012 10:42:25 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: unlearner

How the he## do these poor, disenfranchised minorities apply for welfare without a photo ID?


4 posted on 08/30/2012 10:44:49 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: unlearner

I simply cannot say what I think should happen with these judges and their ilk. All I can say is that if it happens, I’d dance a jig....


5 posted on 08/30/2012 10:44:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dalebert

bad left wing judges are killing us

Get used to another 4 years (at least) of them. Romney put liberal judges in Mass. He loves them the most.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 10:45:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: unlearner
The three-judge panel in the historic case said that evidence also showed that costs of obtaining a voter ID would fall most heavily on poor African Americans and Hispanics in Texas.

So, I take it these poor minorities aren't getting married, attending school, buying booze, ALL of which require an ID?

7 posted on 08/30/2012 10:45:45 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: unlearner

This is no big loss. Texas will go Republican.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 10:46:09 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: unlearner
From the Azz Press...

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott says the state will appeal the rejection of its voter ID law to the U.S. Supreme Court and is confident of prevailing.
Abbott said the ruling Thursday by a federal court in Washington was "wrong on the law" and stops Texas from using the same Election Day measures being used in Georgia and Indiana.

9 posted on 08/30/2012 10:48:32 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: unlearner

The enemy within wears black robes and feigns allegience to the US Constitution. Tyrants rule over us. Looks like war to me necessary to crush these cretins who would destroy us.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 10:49:55 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: chopperman

But I always show my voter ID and they look up my address when I vote.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 10:50:36 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: unlearner

Can this be appealed before November 6th?


12 posted on 08/30/2012 10:53:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: unlearner

They really don’t like Texas in DC, do they?


13 posted on 08/30/2012 10:57:10 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: unlearner
This judge is in the hands of BO and should be investigated..

These same poor blacks and Hispanics have to have ID to get their welfare checks,drivers license,food stamps,etc,etc,so why not to vote..We had better watch the polls when they go to vote and if the Muslim Communist wins Texas there had better be an all out check on the people that did the voting..

This is the scariest race of all times,if this communist gets back in we will all be his slaves unless we rebel and that is what it will be..No way this bastard can win with out cheating

14 posted on 08/30/2012 10:58:29 AM PDT by PLD
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To: BillyBonebrake

Does someone have a link to the actual decision. As far as I can tell, it is not up on the Court’s website.

As I understand it, they claimed something about the Texas law was harsher than other laws that have been upheld.

Of course, the idiot media fails to offer the faintest clue as to what.


15 posted on 08/30/2012 11:00:33 AM PDT by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
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To: unlearner

Why crap like this doesn’t produce intense anger among voters is beyond me. It is a sane requirement (validating you are who you say you are). If the leftards were not evil, they would respond by helping people get ID - something they very likely already have. Instead they don’t even try to hide their intent to commit fraud.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 11:03:39 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: napscoordinator

“Get used to another 4 years (at least) of them. Romney put liberal judges in Mass. He loves them the most.”

Pure bullshit, as usual.


17 posted on 08/30/2012 11:05:08 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: BillyBonebrake

No Sir. I’m convinced that the limp-wristed metrosexual marxist in the White House, hates TX. Which is OK from this Texan’s point of view - because I hate him too!


18 posted on 08/30/2012 11:06:32 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: unlearner
Pretext: voter ID will hurt minorities.

Proof:The court tells Texas to prove this as a negative.

Genius of the Court. Insanity.

19 posted on 08/30/2012 11:12:10 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Made In The USA

I just had to register my kid for school. The list of ID materials was a mile long — social security number, birth certificate, 3 proofs of residence, a current drivers license with a CURRENT address that matched the proof of residence ....

they treated us like criminals until we brought in the required proof to attend this particular school district.

Do these blacks and hispanics at all enter anywhere into society through school or other institutions?

This is total FARCE on behalf of our federal government. How can they lump two entire RACES of people and call them all “disadvantaged and/or too poor/stupid to be able to produce valid ID??


20 posted on 08/30/2012 11:12:35 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: dalebert

Gun ownership and voting are both rights. One you must show ID, background check and some states limit the type of guns available nationally that I can buy. Any gun available for purchase must meet stringent federal and state laws before it is allowed on the market. Voting on the other hand means a Hispanic man can show up as Martha Steinberg, cast his vote for a candidate that does not meet the definition of Natural Born Citizen (both parents US citizen and born in US). Makes me wonder why establishment wants more foreigners and loosen the standard for candidates to include sub foreign ones? Maybe the one percent of our nation realize they can no longer rely and control the 99 percent in this country and need foreign reinforcements to stay in power.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 11:12:56 AM PDT by Fee
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To: unlearner
If Obama & Holder can ignore the law..just issuing bogus "edicts" re: immigration, enforcement of defense of marriage, ignore Fed Judge in NO...etc..

...My question then would be:

.. why not just ignore the "ruling",...order the Texas ID law valid in Texas and dare the Feds to enforce the ruling by force.

Seriously, what would the feds do? Would they provoke a "war" with Texas?..try to capture Greg Abbott & Gov Perry?

I want the confrontation....I would risk jail to have the confrontation as a sovereign citizen of the State of Texas...

22 posted on 08/30/2012 11:14:15 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: jessduntno

You should look at Romney’s record of appointing judges and the board who recommended judges in Mass. before calling this bull.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: unlearner

RATS depend on voter fraud.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 11:18:49 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: unlearner

This will be decided at the Supreme court....not that that would change anything with John Roberts there!


25 posted on 08/30/2012 11:20:10 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Gaffer

“I simply cannot say what I think should happen with these judges and their ilk. All I can say is that if it happens, I’d dance a jig....”

Better still find out where they are buried and go piss on their graves.


26 posted on 08/30/2012 11:20:35 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: TheConservator

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/texas-voter-id.pdf
Bless you: Too many pages for me!
Lots of words means little thought in rulings.

2 noxious Dem judges and a Bush judge who has always been liberal.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 11:22:56 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: B.O. Plenty

A question to anyone well versed in the Constitution.

How come the question of Texas voting law is decided by a Federal Court? Isn’t the way a the elections are organized in the different states state issues?

The President is not elected in a direct election but by electors from the different states. Isn’t it up to each and every state to decide how the electors are chosen?


28 posted on 08/30/2012 11:24:08 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: vette6387

Well, I was being polite, of course....However, I think that urine has better uses than wasting it on the grave of a liberal.


29 posted on 08/30/2012 11:25:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sten

Don’t worry. The Texas AG IS raging and will be appealing this stupid, politically-motivated decision to the Supreme Court, which has found other similar laws perfectly constitutional.

Unfortunately, the effects of this decision probably won’t be stopped by November 6.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 11:26:00 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Probably not ...but thanks to we Texans it won't matter. Barack Obama's gona get "Bitch Slapped" big time here in The Lone Star State!!!
31 posted on 08/30/2012 11:26:09 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Puppage
So, I take it these poor minorities aren't getting married, attending school, buying booze, ALL of which require an ID?

They're apparently not eating anything either, as the rationale was about "cost."

32 posted on 08/30/2012 11:27:34 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: unlearner

I say we ALL go to the voting booth without ID’s. In protest!


33 posted on 08/30/2012 11:28:58 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Can this be appealed before November 6th?

I don't think so, but a stay may be issued on the Commie Court's decision.

34 posted on 08/30/2012 11:29:04 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ontap

God Bless the Lone Star State.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 11:30:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: PLD

One of the things that true Patriots need to do is get involved as poll watchers with TrueTheVote. It’s appalling what corruption this organization has uncovered.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 11:30:50 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
From the article:
"Texas is the largest state covered by Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which requires federal approval or “preclearance” of any voting changes in states that have a history of discrimination. Because of Texas’s discrimination history, the voter ID law signed last year by its Republican governor, Rick Perry, had to be cleared by the Justice Department. The department blocked the law in March, saying it would endanger minority voting rights. Texas sued the department, leading to a week-long trial in July."

Here's some more background on the infamous Section 5:

In 1982, Congress extended Section 5 for 25 years, but no new Section 5 coverage formula was adopted. It did, however, modify the procedure for a jurisdiction to terminate coverage under the special provisions.

In 2006, Congress extended the requirements Section 5 for an additional 25 years.

http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/sec_5/about.php

The pubbies were too scared of the racist tag back in 2006 to kill the law when they had a chance so this is where we are today at the mercy of the Obama/Holder Justice Dept.

37 posted on 08/30/2012 11:34:25 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Ingtar

“You should look at Romney’s record of appointing judges and the board who recommended judges in Mass. before calling this bull.”

It was the People’s Republic of Massivetwoshits. Who do you think controlled things there? Saying this shit about Romney is like blaming a running back for getting his uniform dirty. It’s to be filed under DUHHHHHHHHHHHH.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 11:39:41 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Menehune56

Amazing!

And thanks for the reply.


39 posted on 08/30/2012 12:07:15 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Fee
Gun ownership and voting are both rights.

I've long said the requirements for buying and owning a gun should be as stringent as those for voting.

40 posted on 08/30/2012 12:16:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: napscoordinator

Judge Tatel is a Chicago person, and a former Civil Rights Lawyer at DOJ. What else do you need to know to why he voted to overturn the law. CHICAGO!


41 posted on 08/30/2012 12:21:16 PM PDT by supermop (Cleaning up the mess Obama will leave)
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To: jessduntno

Who controlled the judge appointments? Romney. The panel who nominated the judges is appointed by and serves at the pleasure of the Governor. There was a lot more choice available to him in judges and other actions that his cheerleaders blame on the nature of the state. Of course, if he wins, he is again heading into a place where the prevailing culture is liberal. We should expect him to be different?


42 posted on 08/30/2012 12:23:26 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Ingtar

“Of course, if he wins, he is again heading into a place where the prevailing culture is liberal.”

You are looking at the wrong polls, my man....and the R’s will hold at least two thirds of the branches (and possibly all three) with a SCOTUS majority.

Nice talking to you.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 12:32:53 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

Yes, the GOP will hold the House and Senate. This still does not change the prevailing culture. Do you really think enough good people are running to push out McConnell and Boehner? Both of them are part of the problem. I cannot say that I trust Romney to get us to a SCOTUS majority either.


44 posted on 08/30/2012 12:39:41 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Ingtar

OK. I get it. You hate Romney. But it doesn’t change the facts and makes your crystal ball VERY cloudy. And if you can’t stick to the truth and deal with the facts, don’t bother engaging.


45 posted on 08/30/2012 12:46:11 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

You can’t help yourself. You love is way beyond the Romney fans. You do know he is married. Sometimes I worry about you Romney lovers. You guys are way to much in his butt to really comment truthfully about the liberal.


46 posted on 08/30/2012 12:51:22 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: napscoordinator

Heh heh heh ... nice talk Nappy.


47 posted on 08/30/2012 12:54:56 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: unlearner
Being a minority doesn’t entitle you to cheat.

Appeal and remove the judge if possible.

48 posted on 08/30/2012 1:01:08 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: napscoordinator
Get used to another 4 years (at least) of them. Romney put liberal judges in Mass. He loves them the most.

Two words: "advice" and "consent". The US Senate is a check on the President's judicial nominees. And unlike Massachusetts, the US Senate contains conservatives. Conservatives will run committees in the Senate, if we win it.

Here are some more words, from Article III of our Constitution:

"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."

"Congress" not the President. If Congress wants to take out a left-wing Federal judge, all they gotta do is close his Court, and establish a new one. Newt Gingrich proposed to do this.

49 posted on 08/30/2012 1:10:04 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Ingtar; jessduntno
"Second, every one of Governor Romney’s judicial nominees has to be approved by the “Governor’s Council”, a popularly-elected, eight member board that is dominated by Democrats (as is most of Massachusetts state government). Imagine a situation where the President of the United States had to run all of his judicial nominees by a Senate that contained 85% Democrats–most of them of the radical sort. That would change the picture a bit, wouldn’t it? I think the best way to think of Governor Romney’s track record in nominating judges is that he did the best that he could have done."

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/12/30/don%e2%80%99t-believe-misleading-attacks-on-romneys-abortion-record/

50 posted on 08/30/2012 1:38:32 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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