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Haven't we heard these claims before?
1 posted on 09/11/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Ignorance should be ignored. This is a double dose.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 7:22:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Diversity and political correctness. The real reason 09-11-01 happened.)
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To: EveningStar

Ignorance should be ignored. This is a double dose.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 7:22:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Diversity and political correctness. The real reason 09-11-01 happened.)
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I have no fondness for GWB presidency at all but reviving this nonsense on 9/11 is idiotic and disrespectful. What’s next? The Jersey girls (Britweiser) ?


5 posted on 09/11/2012 7:27:03 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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I doubt anyone would conclude that a warning that “a big operation is being planned for sometime within the next month” means that terrorists are planning to take over planes and fly them into buildings on the morning of September 11.

Only 20/20 hindsight can reveal those connections.


8 posted on 09/11/2012 7:29:32 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: EveningStar
Wonder if the NY Times really wants to go there again.

The State Department in effect was assisting the Taliban's inhumane blockade intended to starve out communities, which opposed their dictates. Perhaps the most glaring evidence of this administration's tacit support was the effort made during the Spring of 1998, when a visit to Afghanistan made by Mr. Inderfurth who will be with us today and the United Nations Ambassador Bill Richardson. These administration representatives convinced the anti-Taliban northern alliance not to go on the offensive against a then weakened and vulnerable Taliban. Instead they convinced the anti-Taliban leaders to accept a cease-fire that was proposed by Pakistan. This cease-fire lasted only as long as it took the Pakistanis to re-supply and reorganize the Taliban. In fact within a few months of the announcement of the U.S. backed Ulima (ph) process, the Taliban freshly supplied by the ISI from Pakistan and flush with drug money went on a major offensive and destroyed the northern alliance.
So, our administration, at a pivotal moment, interceded in a way that brought the Taliban to almost complete power in Afghanistan. This was either incompetence on the part of the State Department and US intelligence agencies, or it is indicative of a real policy, the real policy of our government to insure a Taliban victory.
------------ Rep. ROHRABACHER (1999) -- How the Clinton Administration brought the Taliban to power, Senate testimony | April 14, 1999 | Rep. Dana Rohrabacher Posted on Friday, September 28, 2001 10:01:18 PM by Nita Nupress

9 posted on 09/11/2012 7:30:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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The Lion’s share of the blame resides with Clinton and the f’ing democrats... Clinton was getting a BJ with the blessing of the MSM and other Democrats when he and they had a duty to be paying attention to real and present dangers... and where are we now, same damn place, like the last ten years of war has changed nothing.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 7:31:01 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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NT Times ever heard of this women?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick

“A 1995 Department of Justice memorandum states that the procedures her memorandum put in place for the investigation of the first WTC bombing “go beyond what is legally required...[to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” The wall intentionally exceeded the requirements of FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978) for the purposes of criminal investigations, as well as the then-existing federal case law. These rules were, shortly after their creation, expanded to regulate such communications in future counter-terrorism investigations.”


11 posted on 09/11/2012 7:31:25 PM PDT by oldernittany
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Only left wing propagandists post left wing propaganda.

12 posted on 09/11/2012 7:32:04 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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1998 : (AFGHANISTAN : ———— see CLINTON ADMIN) In the year 1377 (1998) Olivier Roy and Christoph De Ponfilly wrote in an essay: “Massoud never understood why CIA and Pentagon decided to support his enemy Gulbuddin Hekmatyar in the fight against him. Massoud always dreamed of a united and equal people in Afghanistan and also of free elections in this country.” .....
-——— Biography: Ahmad Shah Massoud, Afgha.com ^ | September 12, 2006 | Farzana Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:39:32 AM by HAL9000


13 posted on 09/11/2012 7:34:01 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Whoa....Wait a minute.......I thought it was Bush’s 911 conspiracy all along.......so Bush both conspired and ignored...ALL AT THE SAME TIME! Damn, he’s good.


14 posted on 09/11/2012 7:34:16 PM PDT by Be Careful
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The Disney docudrama, Path to 9-11, censured!!!

18 posted on 09/11/2012 7:37:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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maybe this clown Eichenwald should try to find out what sandy berger was stealing from the national archives.....


21 posted on 09/11/2012 7:40:41 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I thought it was Clinton’s administration that refused on multiple occasions to have bin Laden served up?

I must have my history wrong.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 7:41:12 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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and why do we continue to post the same crqappy article over asnd over??? it is written by a POS and it is a POS. Why give him space???


24 posted on 09/11/2012 7:43:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: EveningStar

There is no BUSH on the ticket this time. This is just an attempt to distract attention from the Messiah’s ineffectiveness.


25 posted on 09/11/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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They are the scum of the earth over at the times. They should all be on the unemployment line. They can spew these lies about President Bush but can’t dig into Obama’s commie background.


32 posted on 09/11/2012 8:00:35 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: EveningStar
The one thing for which Bush should have been pilloried, his politically-correct, yet moronic criticisms of racial profiling (a key characteristic of "compassionate conservatism"), goes unmentioned in the New York Times:

LOS ANGELES, Sep. 11 -- Ironically, in an attempt to appeal to the growing number of Arab-American and Muslim voters, exactly eleven months ago George W. Bush called for weakening airport security procedures aimed at deterring hijackers.

On Oct. 11, 2000, during the second presidential debate, the Republican candidate attacked two anti-terrorist policies that had long irritated Arab citizens of the U.S.

At present [i.e., the evening of 9/11], of course, there is no definite evidence that Arabs or Muslims were involved in today's terrorist assaults. Many incorrectly assumed after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that Middle Easterners were involved. Nor is there direct evidence that Bush's attack on airline safety procedures made the four simultaneous hijackings easier to pull off.

Bush said during the nationally televised debate, "Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what's called secret evidence. People are stopped, and we got to do something about that." Then-Governor Bush went on, "My friend, Sen. Spence Abraham [the Arab-American Republic Senator from Michigan], is pushing a law to make sure that, you know, Arab-Americans are treated with respect. So racial profiling isn't just an issue at the local police forces. It's an issue throughout our society. And as we become a diverse society, we're going to have to deal with it more and more."

Four years later, a USAir ticket agent spoke out:

Michael Tuohey was going to work like he had for 37 years, but little did he know that this day would change his life forever. On September 11, 2001, Tuohey, a ticket agent for U.S. Airways, checked in terrorist Mohammed Atta for a flight that started a chain of events that would change history.

Tuohey was working the U.S. Airways first-class check-in desk when two men, Atta and his companion Abdul Azziz-Alomari, approached his counter. From all outward appearances, the men seemed to be normal businessmen, but Tuohey felt something was wrong.

"I got an instant chill when I looked at [Atta]. I got this grip in my stomach and then, of course, I gave myself a political correct slap...I thought, 'My God, Michael, these are just a couple of Arab businessmen.'"

To what extent was this ticket agent (and other ticket agents) influenced by Bush's lemming-like parroting of Clinton's and Gore's crusade against racial profiling? If there is one aspect of Bush's policies that led to 9/11, this is it. Of course, the Dems had the same position on profiling, which is to say that whichever party won in 2000, 9/11 was a foregone position, given the politically-correct ethos fostered by both party establishments. Now, if Clinton hadn't held office from 1993 to 2000, bin Laden might have been killed by a GOP president. But that's all water under the bridge.

 

35 posted on 09/11/2012 8:02:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Yes the 09-11 Commission totally debunked this nonsense but like all good Progressive Fascists, the NYT never lets an inconvenient truth get in the way of their propaganda


36 posted on 09/11/2012 8:04:33 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Focus on Bush....no no...dont look at all the fail surrounding DNC-Obama Inc......focus on Bush....agi voo Bush.


38 posted on 09/11/2012 8:10:28 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: EveningStar
An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

"Neoconservative," like "crypto-fascist" is usually a good indicator of a non-serious journalist. While the term, in certain contexts, can have specific meaning, when used like this "neoconservative" just means "very conservative, even worse than normal conservatives" to this writer and the typical NYT reader.

Once again, there is no specificity in any of the claims. News that Al Qaeda had plans to kill Americans was not exactly news.

If Bush and his merry band of cryptoneoconservativebullies had proceeded with the only action available to them based on the non-specific information - capturing, detaining and interogating recent islamic arrivals, particularly young islamic men between 20 and 40 years of age from countries like Saudi Arabia, Yemen or Afghanistan - Kurt Eichenwald and his ilk would have started calling them Nazis. And every leftwing legal organization in the country would have been filing appeals on the poor victims of his islamaphobia.

39 posted on 09/11/2012 8:12:12 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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