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DOD: Gen. Martin Dempsey opted to phone Florida pastor
Politico ^ | 13 Sep 12 | KATE BRANNEN

Posted on 09/13/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Edited on 09/13/2012 8:06:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The military

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 1stammendment; 20120912; bhodod; dempsey; dove; doveworldoutreach; dwo; ericschmidt; freespeech; google; islam; martindempsey; terryjones; videomyth
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To: livius
If Obama gets reelected, they’ll probably just come and haul Jones off to prison

Or send a drone.

21 posted on 09/13/2012 3:23:02 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: bronxville
A society that can be this easily inflamed by words or pictures of their "prophet", or "desecration of their holy book", or a movie is easily manipulated.

Terrorists, like the ones who are perpetrating these latest events should be hunted down and killed. Those who harbor them should be similarly dispatched. Governments who support them in any way should be destroyed. It might be time to drastically rearrange portions of the middle east in a way that is more advantageous to the west.

Historically, the US has not been shy about restricting state religions. Note the following exerpt:

Shinto Directive
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After the Second World War during the Occupation of Japan by the United States Military it was generally understood by allied students of Japanese culture and religion that Shinto in the form it took leading up to and during the war was social propaganda and was being used as a tool of ultra-nationalism and a disguise for militarism. Thus, it was US policy regarding post-surrender Japan to abolish State Shinto (Kokka Shinto). The directive, SCAPIN 448, was drafted by the US Military’s expert on Japanese culture and religion, Lieut. William K. Bunce, U.S.N.R.[1] and was issued on December 15, 1945 with the full title of “ABOLITION OF GOVERNMENTAL SPONSORSHIP, SUPPORT, PERPETUATION, CONTROL AND DISSEMINATION OF STATE SHINTO (KOKKA SHINTO, JINJA SHINTO)”

The directive was based in part on the United States Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion. According to the directive, State Shinto was to be stripped of public support and of its “ultra-nationalistic and militaristic” trappings. The remnants were to be permitted to exist as part of sectarian Shinto, an unprivileged equal among other faiths, supported only by voluntary offerings.

No public funds could be used to support Shinto shrines or priests. The Emperor could no longer report on public matters to his ancestors in official visits to the shrines. But he and other officials could worship as private individuals. Shinto doctrine would be deleted from text books. “Militaristic and ultranationalistic ideology” could not be promoted or encouraged in connection with Shinto or any other creed. These doctrines were specifically banned: that the Emperor is superior to other rulers because he descends from the sun; that the Japanese people are superior to other peoples, or the Japanese islands superior to other lands, because Amaterasu so willed.

Thus, the directive was more than formal separation of Church and State. It was an attempt by U.S. officials to draw the line between genuine religious doctrine and harmful social propaganda. [2]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto_Directive

22 posted on 09/13/2012 3:25:49 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Obadiah

>Where are the “Republicans” demanding his immediate resignation?<

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You must be kidding! Their indicisiveness, cowardice and lethargy are part of the problem.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 3:26:09 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: SkyPilot
...an extremist Florida pastor ...

Most unusual spelling of principled I have seen.

24 posted on 09/13/2012 3:27:24 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: SkyPilot

So says a highly political General.

LLS


25 posted on 09/13/2012 3:27:24 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

It’s pretty clear this military is intimidated by Muslims. What a bummer when your own generals are afraid of the enemy..


26 posted on 09/13/2012 3:32:57 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: SkyPilot

He should be busted down to private and given a few years on bread and water with forfeiture of all pay, rank and retirement.

Let him out on parole once he can recite the entire US Constitution from memory, word for word, coma for coma.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 3:34:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Obadiah

This is what you get when you queer the military....


28 posted on 09/13/2012 3:34:43 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: SkyPilot
Make it clear that Marty decided on his own to phone, that no one else asked him to do it, OK? Great!
29 posted on 09/13/2012 3:35:34 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: SkyPilot

An active duty military officer, in particular one of that rank has no business calling any private citizen with regard to their beliefs.

He’s a political general and I seriously doubt that this was done on his own initiative.

He is the CJC and every public action or interaction with citizens he takes part in is official.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 3:36:33 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SkyPilot
I have been investigated by the feds for my political activities.

If I received a call from the highest ranking military man in America regarding my faith, or my politics, then I would ask him if he was going to have me killed, what else could such a call imply?

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff does not call a private citizen to express displeasure with his religious or political views, OR ANY OTHER SUCH BUSINESS.

This should be a major story of the decade, heads should roll, the media should be hysterical and seeking blood.

31 posted on 09/13/2012 3:37:44 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SkyPilot

Great.....a lie on top of stupid behavior. This administration is in full panic mode. What a bunch of rookies. This is what happens when you elect the third-string junior high football team (Obama) into the NFL.


32 posted on 09/13/2012 3:42:22 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SkyPilot

General, you guys are fighting to protect free speech not oppose it.

The march towards Fascism continues unabated.


33 posted on 09/13/2012 3:44:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: bronxville
especially since it had nothing to do with the movie and more to do with a coordinated 9-11 event

This is the MOST distressing part - that a man of this age, with this position, with years of experience, with inside intelligence information - would fall for such a STUPID ruse.....Does he have a calendar - does he KNOW what 9/11 MEANS????

Just imagine if we could turn back time to 9/11/01 and ask Americans if the events of 9/11/12 took place would you think it was because of a two-bit video on YouTube or the anniversary of 9/11/01?????

34 posted on 09/13/2012 3:44:58 PM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Breto
"It’s pretty clear this military is intimidated by Muslims. What a bummer when your own generals are afraid of the enemy.."

They are not my generals. They serve the Usurper.

35 posted on 09/13/2012 3:45:28 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: SkyPilot
Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey called Florida pastor Terry Jones on Wednesday

Just who does this THUG think he is ?

36 posted on 09/13/2012 3:45:49 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Momto2

It’s not stupidity. He knows why they’re “protesting”.

It’s called “Being on the wrong side”. A continuum from coward to enabler to assistant to traitor.


37 posted on 09/13/2012 3:47:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: dalebert
I just read on another thread that the owner of the company that released the film is a close friend of Obama’s

That would explain a lot. Hearing that the "director" who claimed to be an Israeli Jew was in fact a Christian.

Somebody trying to make things difficult for Israel and Jews? Sounds like an Obama supporter.
38 posted on 09/13/2012 3:51:15 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Godebert

They are not my generals. They serve the Usurper.

good point


39 posted on 09/13/2012 3:51:30 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: blueunicorn6

Regarding the freak in the WH: (and the taint spreads out to all his spokeholes such as Dempsey)

Hussein is a Muslim plant.

He makes full use of taqiya, the license to lie.

The Arab Spring is an islamization.

He protects Iran.

He is a grave danger to Israel and America.

It is a fatal mistake to deem his evil merely incompetence.

Big hat tip to Phil Dragoo.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 3:53:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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