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Muslims, Mormons and Liberals: Why is it OK to mock one religion but not another?
Wall St. J ^ | September 17, 2012 | BRET STEPHENS

Posted on 09/17/2012 6:11:39 PM PDT by Steelfish

Muslims, Mormons and Liberals Why is it OK to mock one religion but not another? By BRET STEPHENS

'Hasa Diga Eebowai" is the hit number in Broadway's hit musical "The Book of Mormon," which won nine Tony awards last year. What does the phrase mean? I can't tell you, because it's unprintable in a family newspaper.

On the other hand, if you can afford to shell out several hundred bucks for a seat, then you can watch a Mormon missionary get his holy book stuffed—well, I can't tell you about that, either. Let's just say it has New York City audiences roaring with laughter.

The "Book of Mormon"—a performance of which Hillary Clinton attended last year, without registering a complaint—comes to mind as the administration falls over itself denouncing "Innocence of Muslims." This is a film that may or may not exist; whose makers are likely not who they say they are; whose actors claim to have known neither the plot nor purpose of the film; and which has never been seen by any member of the public except as a video clip on the Internet.

No matter. The film, the administration says, is "hateful and offensive" (Susan Rice), "reprehensible and disgusting" (Jay Carney) and, in a twist, "disgusting and reprehensible" (Hillary Clinton). Mr. Carney, the White House spokesman, also lays sole blame on the film for inciting the riots that have swept the Muslim world and claimed the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three of his staff in Libya.

So let's get this straight: In the consensus view of modern American liberalism, it is hilarious to mock Mormons and Mormonism but outrageous to mock Muslims and Islam. Why? Maybe it's because nobody has ever been harmed, much less killed, making fun of Mormons.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: inman; islam; mormon; mormonism; muslimvote
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To: Sola Veritas

He started his own private Army because President Buchanan decided he didn’t like Mormons and wanted the land they settled so he ordered them completely exterminated. (The Mormon Wars).

Smith wasn’t a saint to say the least, but let’s not make them seem like the villains in that whole thing. You had a case of an over-reaching totalitarian President (a ‘dandy’ Democrat by the way) that would make most people’s Waco nightmares seem like a Saturday afternoon special in comparison.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 6:36:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

No Joey Smith started his private army of 5,000 at a time whemn the US army only had 8,00 because he declared war against the US government...

He declared in 1838 he would be like Mohammad in the “Alcoran”

That it would be “Joseph Smith or the Sword”...

at the timne of his death he had petitioned Congress for the money to develop an army of 100,000 trained men...

What did Smith need 100,000 soldiers in his own private standing army for ???

He was not molested or threatened first by the US army in any state the Mormons lived in ...


22 posted on 09/17/2012 6:48:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: VanDeKoik

The article is about islam, mormonism and liberalism, Christians are not mentioned.
Was there a follow up?


23 posted on 09/17/2012 6:49:40 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Why do you mention Christians ???

Christians arent mentioned in this article...

only Mormons and Moslems

"... it's okay to concede the fundamentalist premise that religious belief ought to be entitled to the highest possible degree of social deference—except when Mormons and sundry Christian rubes are concerned."

Do you consider yourself one of those "sundry Christian rubes", or just a rube?

24 posted on 09/17/2012 6:52:13 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Tennessee Nana

Well, aren’t you special for pointing that out.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 6:52:13 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (Eat a live frog first thing in the morning, and nothing worse will happen for the rest of the day.)
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To: 4rcane

The article was about islam, mormonism and liberalism, Christians weren’t mentioned.
Was there a follow up article mentioning them?


26 posted on 09/17/2012 6:52:38 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Steelfish

If Mormons blow up the Eugene O’Neill Theatre in NYC will the bombers be blamed or will Trey Parker & Matt Stone be arrested?


27 posted on 09/17/2012 6:53:09 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: svcw

Mormons, despite not being seen as Christians (not sure what the official word is on that), would behave exactly like they would when it comes to stuff like this.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 6:53:21 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Steelfish

Because liberals see America as Christian and because they want to destroy America they want to destroy Christians. Muslims want to destroy America so liberals are for Muslims.


29 posted on 09/17/2012 6:53:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Steelfish

Muslim is not a Religion Islam is their religion if you want to call it a Religion Muslim is a following of Islam ....


30 posted on 09/17/2012 6:53:46 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: DTogo
It’s easy for cowards to mock a religion that turns the other cheek.

Liberals only support people who destroy this country. Anyone who goes out on a rampage because of some silly video is a psychopath.

This country has been about mocking people for a very long time. Don Rickles wouldn't be were he was if he had been Mr. Nice Guy.

31 posted on 09/17/2012 6:54:32 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Steelfish

Wondered how long it would take in this election cycle before conservatives would be put in the undefensible position of defending Mormonism. Well its here.

When the GOP puts up a Mormon for president, this is what you get. Nice work, all you “moderates” who pushed your man on us in the primaries. A fine kettle of fish indeed.

There is no way on this world I can defend Mormonism.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 7:00:21 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: mnehring

It was not an extermination notice as we currently define the word. Extermination meant drive them out.
He had destroyed the property of anyone who disagreed with him, he took under aged girls as brides, and other men’s wives....there were really good reasons people didn’t want him around.
He declared himself general and president, his goal was to take over the government.
“Extermination Order” issued by Governor Boggs on October 27, 1838 was this:

Headquarters of the Militia,
City of Jefferson, Oct. 27, 1838.

Gen. John B. Clark:

Sir:–Since the order of this morning to you, directing you to cause four hundred mounted men to be raised within your Division, I have received by Amos Rees, Esq. of Ray county, and Wiley C. Williams, Esq. one of my aids, information of the most appalling character, which entirely changes the face of things, and places the Mormons in the attitude of an open and avowed defiance of the laws, and of having made war upon the people of this State. Your orders are, therefore, to hasten your operations with all possible speed. The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated driven from the state if necessary for the public peace–their outrages are beyond all description. If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so to any extent you may consider necessary. I have just issued orders to Maj. Gen. Willock, of Marion county, to raise five hundred men, and to march them to the northern part of Daviess, and there unite with Gen Doniphan, of Clay, who has been ordered with five hundred men to proceed to the same point for the purpose of intercepting the retreat of the Mormons to the north. They have been directed to communicate with you by express, you can also communicate with them if you find it necessary. Instead therefore of proceeding as at first directed to reinstate the citizens of Daviess in their homes, you will proceed immediately to Richmond and then operate against the Mormons. Brig. Gen. Parks, of Ray, has been ordered to have four hundred of his Brigade in readiness to join you at Richmond. The whole force will be placed under your command.

I am very respectfully,
your ob’t serv’t,
L. W. Boggs, Commander-in-Chief


33 posted on 09/17/2012 7:01:06 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: VanDeKoik

mormonism is not seen as Christianity because it is not.
If you mean individual mormons are kind people, I would agree.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 7:04:46 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: G Larry
Then there’s the film that just won an award in Vienna, which depicts a woman masturbating with a Crucifix, which went unnoticed by Hillary.

Don't forget about "Piss Christ", which was actually funded by the same government that is now decrying and intimidating those that would criticize Islam.

35 posted on 09/17/2012 7:08:42 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

Yes, but my reference is VERY recent!

More recent than the film Obama is lying about being the cause of the violence.


36 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:58 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

When, to the best of your knowledge, was the last time Mormons killed people for making fun of their religion?


37 posted on 09/17/2012 8:36:35 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Steelfish

Because Mormons are productive, patriotic tax payers with a sense of humor?
That’s something about the the `religion of peace’ that may be their Achilles heel: mooselimbs are absolutely humorless.


38 posted on 09/17/2012 8:38:50 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Steelfish; reaganaut; Elsie

LDS is a cult. I have no trouble treating it like Islam of that is the point, LOL


39 posted on 09/17/2012 9:38:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: caver

Yeah Islam, Scientology, Mormonism, Moonies, Hare Krishnas, they all get mocked here.


40 posted on 09/17/2012 10:12:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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