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What John McLaughlin (pollster) Sees in the Polls Right Now (Must Read!)
Natiionla Review Online ^ | 09/21/12 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/21/2012 6:31:56 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

I reached out to Republican pollster John McLaughlin for yesterday’s piece on how undecided voters are likely to break, and he made some separate comments about polls, their impact on motivation for each side, and how the campaigns want to use skewed poll numbers to depress the opposition.

How he’s defining likely voters right now: “For the most part we’re polling likely voters. It’s a loose screen. We keep people who say they’re only somewhat likely to vote. But the vast majority say that they are definitely or very likely to vote. They’re voting.”

How campaigns try to sway polling results: “In a close race, the operatives are trying to manipulate the turnout through their paid and earned media. The earned media includes lobbying and trying to skew the public polls. Historically the most egregious case was the 2000 Gore campaign’s lobbying the networks’ exit pollsters for an early, and wrong, call in Florida. This suppressed the Florida Panhandle and Western state turnout.” (Polls close at different times in different parts of the state, because the state stretches into two time zones.) “In our post-election Florida poll, we found that thousands of Panhandle Floridians heard the call and although their polls were still open for an hour in a close national race decided not to vote. Panhandle voters went two-to-one for Bush. The CBS early wrong call nearly triggered a national crisis.”

On what a realistic partisan breakdown would look like: The 2004 national exit polls showed an even partisan turnout and Bush won 51-48. Had it been the +4 Democratic edge of 2000, John Kerry would have been President. 2008 was a Democratic wave that gave them a +7 partisan advantage. 2010 was a Republican edge. There’s no wave right now. There are about a dozen swing states where in total millions of voters who voted in 2008 for Obama are gone or have not voted since. There are also hundreds of thousands of voters in each of several swing states like Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, and others who voted from rural, exurban or suburban areas in 2004 for Bush who did not vote in 2008, because they were not excited by McCain or thought he would lose. They are currently planning to vote mainly as a vote against President Obama.”

What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR (Interactive Voice Response) polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are “not enthusiastic” to vote or non voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this. Then there’s the debate between calling off a random digit dial of phone exchanges vs a known sample of actual registered voters. Most polls favoring Obama are random and not off the actual voter list. That’s too expensive” for some pollsters.


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To: stephenjohnbanker

“We already have maybe 10 years of misery just undoing the damage and debt Obama has ALREADY wreaked upon us. Four more years, and there will be only ashes. Does anybody want to wish this on our kids ?”

Apparently some people do. Many of the ones I’ve seen are practically gleeful in contemplating what Obama is going to do to everyone else, and how much we’re going to suffer because we didn’t nominate their pet ‘pure’ conservative.


121 posted on 09/22/2012 1:34:23 AM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yay! You’re back!


122 posted on 09/22/2012 5:45:04 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: nicmarlo; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; onyx

First of all, good morning!

Thank God for another day, and another chance to fight the evil that is staring us in the face.

I have been reading all the comments on this thread, and I thank you all for stating so clearly what we are up against in just 45 days.

In 1980, even though I was much younger, I could see that the future of America was at stake, and the road to that future diverged between Reagan and Carter.

I feel much more so today. It seems that the rest of America is slowly catching on to what we realized in 2007 and 2008—Obama hates this country, his Administration hates this country, and they are all Godless,radical, Israel-hating people, who are endangering the very survival of our country.

The time for arguing about the purity or conservatism of any Republican candidate is long past.Those battles were fought, but they no longer matter.

All that matters now is what you see when you gaze upon your children and grandchildren sleeping safely in their beds at night—and realizing there are evil forces afoot that wish to compromise their liberty and their future.

For some of us, the majority of our life is past, and it has been a terrific one, steeped in freedom and abundance, and safe from want and fear.

But for them, their tomorrows are ahead of them, and they are depending upon us to do what they cannot do—select a President who will guarantee their future.

In 2012, we face such a choice—where the diverging roads of the future and where each will lead is so clear that it is frightening.

The issue of who is the more perfect candidate is not even relevant, because there is not, nor has there ever been, a perfect candidate.

If morality is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama is a more moral man than Mitt Romney.

If executive ability is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama is more able than Mitt Romney.

If economic understanding is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama is more able than Mitt Romney.

If love of America is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama loves America period, and certainly not more than Mitt Romney.

If guaranteeing the freedoms that are our birthright is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama will fight for those freedoms mmore than Mitt Romney.

If the care and respect of our military is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama cares more about the military than Mitt Romney.

If defending Israel is the measure, there is no one who can argue that Barack Obama will defend Israel at all, let alone more than Mitt Romney.

In the primary season, Mitt Romney was no one’s choice here.

In the election, Mitt Romney is the only choice.

Romney is not the same as Obama, and anyone who says so is intellectually deficient.

Make no mistake, the fight of our lives is upon us. When it would cost you nothing but the time to go and vote for
Romney to save the country, how can any of us make a rational excuse to those sleeping innocents for not doing so, when by NOT doing so, the cost of defending their future rises to a height that can only be paid by tremendous sacrifice?


123 posted on 09/22/2012 6:15:18 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: ubaldus
Oh yeah, I was planted on FR in 2004 to undermine Romney’s candidacy.


124 posted on 09/22/2012 6:21:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: wardaddy
Polls are historically since Dewey rather accurate

It's a scam. They start polling fairly right before the election.

125 posted on 09/22/2012 6:27:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: exit82
WELL said E82!

Might I offer a minor edit to your excellent commentary?

Romney is not the same as Obama, and anyone who says so is intellectually deficient an EFFIN' MORON!

(thanks very much ;)
126 posted on 09/22/2012 6:37:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in America's panties, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: Luircin; stephenjohnbanker
In a previous episode, my excellent FRiend SJB said:

“We already have maybe 10 years of misery just undoing the damage and debt Obama has ALREADY wreaked upon us. Four more years, and there will be only ashes. Does anybody want to wish this on our kids?”

Apparently some people do. Many of the ones I’ve seen are practically gleeful in contemplating what Obama is going to do to everyone else, and how much we’re going to suffer because we didn’t nominate their pet ‘pure’ conservative.


***** BUMP!!!! *****

Luircin, you are SO absolutely correct on this. The so-called 'principled' ones and their ideological purists will either wake up on the morning of November 7th and scream "ohhhh GAWD NOOOO!!!! ROMNEY WON!?!??! GAAAAHHH!!!"

OR:

They'll wake up and say "0BAMA WON! YAY US! YAY 'PURE' CONSERVATISM! YAY America's gonna die now and prove our point!'

They are the political equivalent of the residents of Jonestown in November 1978, who couldn't believe what was going to happen until it was time for them to have their own personal cup of purple FlavorAid pressed into their hands.

(and what a coincidence, this November, just like THAT November, there was a Congressman Ryan fighting to get to the bottom of it all, but unlike Leo, Paul Ryan will (God willing) become the next Vice President of the United States).
127 posted on 09/22/2012 6:47:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in America's panties, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: exit82
In the primary season, Mitt Romney was no one’s choice here.

In the election, Mitt Romney is the only choice.

Romney is not the same as Obama, and anyone who says so is intellectually deficient.

Well said, e82. Well said!!

128 posted on 09/22/2012 7:02:18 AM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: ubaldus
Obama can't even get out the vote in Chicago. Without Chicago, he'll lose Illinois.

Prominent Members of Chicago Black Community: Those closest to Obama know there's no 2nd term

There will be no 2008 sort of turnout for Obozo. Not only is that one-time energy gone, gone too is the 2004 and 2000 Democrat voter energy, and the pro-Clinton energy from 1996 and 1992.

All the Democrats have working for them is an evaporating cesspool of hard-core gays, lesbians, union zombies, and social workers -- loud, nasty, vicious, but dwindling to minimal in actual numbers, and there's lots of overlap in those residual groups.

Another post showed an answering machine demonstrating how the dead-end call defaults to pro-Obama answers.

On and on, the main theme of this bizarre polling frenzy, the bizarre and weightless media complaints about anything Romney -- the commie media pukes are at Armegeddon-level desperation melt-down mode.

I'm predicting that Obozo loses 59% to 39% in the popular vote, with an electoral vote defeat worse than Carter in 1980.

129 posted on 09/22/2012 8:09:54 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: matginzac
In 2008 there were many freepers who said we should let Obama win, as that would give the sheeple a good taste of what they had bought into, and would lead to a conservative backlash later. That came in 2010, but at a cost which may turn out to be so high and irreversible as to amount to a Pyrrhic victory-- and which bears no guarantee that the Usurper won't win again this November.
130 posted on 09/22/2012 4:29:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ok, I don’t understand the last statement, last sentence...
Call me stupid....but I can’t see how the 2010 win will cause Obozo to win...
I think the People wanted grid lock, voted in Tea Partiers in the House and will seal the deal by getting rid of Obozo....I hope.


131 posted on 09/22/2012 6:51:30 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: wardaddy
Being "surrounded" by our racial/cultural future hasn't changed the political orientation of NY or NJ (the latter having more immigrants per capita than CA). You do have spatial segregation in suburbia, as even the tolerant lib breeders want to preserve their "precious school districts."

Maybe I should just stay in Brazil.

132 posted on 09/23/2012 7:24:31 AM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: exit82; nicmarlo; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; onyx

” In the primary season, Mitt Romney was no one’s choice here.

In the election, Mitt Romney is the only choice.

Romney is not the same as Obama, and anyone who says so is intellectually deficient.”

Exactly. Your post covered it all!


133 posted on 09/24/2012 7:37:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mkjessup; nicmarlo; stephenjohnbanker; onyx; exit82; Luircin

” They’ll wake up and say “0BAMA WON! YAY US! YAY ‘PURE’ CONSERVATISM! YAY America’s gonna die now and prove our point!’”

Obama won’t advance conservatism while in office, but he might save the economy. It’s all we have. Our country would collapse under Obama, or at least it would never be the same again. Also, homosexuality and abortion will triumph under Obama, while the military (whats left of it) will be all but destroyed.


134 posted on 09/24/2012 7:44:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; exit82; nicmarlo; mkjessup

” In the primary season, Mitt Romney was no one’s choice here.

In the election, Mitt Romney is the only choice.

Romney is not the same as Obama, and anyone who says so is intellectually deficient.”

Exactly. Your post covered it all!


BTTT


135 posted on 09/24/2012 9:05:48 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: greyfox

I was wrong, there are just too many uninformed voters who believe silver tongued orators and their mpty promises.


136 posted on 02/22/2013 7:06:40 AM PST by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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