Skip to comments.Witnesses: Benghazi attack was planned (and young people were told to chant against film)
Posted on 10/29/2012 6:43:07 AM PDT by mgistEdited on 10/29/2012 6:49:17 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
But they also say young people were told to chant against an anti-Islam film as a cover for the assault.
TRIPOLI, Libya - It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with about 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pickup trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.
(Excerpt) Read more at pressherald.com ...
“There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam’s Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.”
AP’s revisionist history to blend the ‘it was the video’ mantra with the truth that has been slowly coming out. Yet another MSM attempt to protect and defend the administration.
How do you denigrate an evil leader??
Call me a conspiracy nut if you will but it was all just tooooooooooo pat! No one within 500 miles of where I lived had ever heard of the youtube trailer prior to the murders In fact I defy you to uncover ten people in the US who had ever seen it prior. Yet, within minutes Little Barry Muzzie pulls it out of his ass as the excuse. If he didn’t know about then he probably gets up and cancels Vegas. But if he did know about it before hand, then just maybe he goes back to sleep and then on to Vegas. Everything this little muzzie prick does smells to high Allah! I put NOTHING past him and the wookie!
Random youth were coached to chant against video? Why do the terrorits seem like they are coordinating plans and talking points with the US State Department?
I’m puzzled as to why this is being ignored. Obama and State clearly had planned in advance to attribute jihadi violence in the ME (which they must have known was coming, particularly on the anniversary of 9/11) to this video, and once Obama and State began preaching it earlier with the attack in Egypt, it also served to give the leaders a convenient rallying cry for a mob that was not necessarily made up of confirmed AQ members but certainly served the purposes of the AQ leaders and organized attackers.
Don’t forget that Gen. Dempsey was tasked with running to the phone to call Terry Jones, that obscure Gainesville, Florida backwoods pastor that Obama has turned into a boogeyman, to pressure him not to show the video to his congregation, which he had evidently planned to do. Terry Jones had nothing to do with Egypt or Benghazi, and was a private citizen exercising his rights; but obviously, a private citizen that Obama & Co. keep under surveillance at all times.
I’m surprised Gen. Dempsey’s disgraceful action has received so little attention, even on FR. It’s unheard of in the history of the US, to my knowledge, to have a very, very senior military person put pressure on a private citizen to stop him from doing something that it was, furthermore, the citizen’s constitutionally protected right to do.
No one ever saw the video. It was on YouTube and had no more than 100 views. Those were probably from that State Dept. as they were planning their story. They have already retracted the video story, but the creator of the video sits in jail not to be heard from until after elections.
“Obama and State clearly had planned in advance to attribute jihadi violence in the ME (which they must have known was coming, particularly on the anniversary of 9/11) to this video, and once Obama and State began preaching it earlier with the attack in Egypt, it also served to give the leaders a convenient rallying cry for a mob that was not necessarily made up of confirmed AQ members but certainly served the purposes of the AQ leaders and organized attackers.”
Planned terrorism . . . AND a YouTube protest . . . Yeah, that’s the ticket . . .
One of the things that struck me at the time was the report that Ayman Zawahiri had released a video calling on Libyans to avenge the drone killing of Zawahiri’s #2, who was a Libyan. That video was believed to have been filmed during Ramadan, which means it was in the works for a while. The attack in Egypt was led by Zawahiri’s brother, who had recently been handed over to Egypt’s control and released from prison by Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi. When the attackers arrived at the embassy they told the guards there not to shoot them because they had been sent by Morsi. But what struck me was that the Libyans would not have had time to pull together a coordinated attack in Benghazi in response to the Zawahiri call for revenge, unless they knew of it in advance. And both the film and the lack of security for Stevens seem to me to be the work of the US government. As I understand it, the film itself was only known in that area at all because the Muslim Brotherhood was promoting it.
There is an appearance here that Ayman Zawahiri coordinated these multiple attacks with his brother, Egyptian president Morsi, the Libyan attackers, the Muslim Brotherhood that aired the video, and the Obama Administration. The plan may have been to use the Egyptian attack to overshadow the Libyan attack and use the video by Zawahiri to drum up other protests which could be used by the Obama regime to create an impression that the Muslim world was in an uproar over this video - thus providing the Obama Administration cover for the cover story they already had in the pipeline.
The staging that went on for the Libyan attack reveals the involvement of the key players though. The Obama regime made sure Stevens was unprotected - rerouting security to places it was unneeded and disarming even what security Stevens had - and the guy whose film was tampered with was vulnerable to be arrested (for parole violations that had been ignored for a while). They had their apologies ready - including Obama’s Rose Garden speech the next day, where he spoke about despicable free speech still not justifying this kind of violence, and Hillary’s “tell” that the US government had nothing to do with the creation of the film (which nobody would have even suggested, so the denial only showed that they felt a need to deflect on something nobody would have even accused them of doing).
The whole thing smells to high heaven. That this all happened right after Obama had bragged to the world of killing Bin Laden - even as he was negotiating with the Muslim Brotherhood about their demands that the blind sheikh be released - only adds to the stink. Coupled with the regime’s handing over of Libyan weapons to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar (all former allies in the war on terror who have seen that Obama punishes allies and rewards terrorists) who then sent the weapons on to ISLAMIST/terrorist rebels in Syria.
At the very least this whole mess shows us what a disaster Obama has been - enabling and emboldening Islamists/terrorists and shutting down those who had formerly been allies against terror. But if these various dots are connected as seems very possible, Obama has actually been working/strategizing WITH OUR ENEMIES.
Obama needs to be impeached immediately - basically put on administrative leave with Biden in charge in the interim, while they investigate and find out if Obama has been committing high treason against the USA by strategizing with our enemies including Zawahiri, Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and Ansar al Sharia, and giving them material aid. The nuclear football and access to all US covert technology, as well as the ability to negotiate with anybody all need to be removed from him - because if he is acting as an enemy of the USA he must be disarmed to keep him from doing further treason.
In reality, Joe Biden is the only one the Constitution authorizes to act as Commander-in-Chief anyway (if we ignore that the certification of the electoral vote was never lawfully done in accordance with the law requiring objections to be asked for), since Obama failed to qualify by Jan 20, 2009 - as we know since HI state registrar Alvin Onaka revealed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama has no legally-valid BC from Hawaii and thus a Hawaii birth has never been legally established. Biden should have been in charge of the US military since noon of Jan 20, 2009. But for sure now that there are serious questions about whether Obama has coordinated with our enemies.
A witness now reports a small group of random youth chanting something consistent with Obama's original cover story. It is suspicious. It sounds like Obama expected a protest but that the terrorists on the ground planned it poorly and it fizzled out. Al-Qaeda needs better community organizers.
“APs revisionist history....”
All you need to know.
That's because those who made the video are connected to those who attacked the embassy. This has been proven. I believe the thread is easily found on FR that explains it all.
The attacks took place around 6 pm in Lybia, there is a 6 hour time difference, which would have placed Obama in Maryland around 1 pm est.
Obama was doing a photo op with soldiers at that time. http://potusnews.net/2012/09/potuss-schedule-for-911-anniversary/
Emails show White House was notified of terrorist attacks within 2 hours, and the emails specified “terrorist attacks”which would have been between 1-3 pm, Obama didn’t bother to meet with secretary of defense until after 5 pm.
My take on the backstory here... choppy but links are provided.
The video/movie was made (at that time) six months ago. OK, what was going on six
The first real indications little bammy was going to get canned.
Remember Fenway park?
“DRUDGE has posted a tweet that Bambi was hit with a chorus of BOOS when he
appeared on the big screen at Fenway Park.”
That is Ted Kennedy territory. And jug-ears gets booed?
The polling started too...
April 20, 2012
Gallup: Romney 47% (down 1) Obama 44 (up 1)
Rasmussen: Romney at 46%, Obama at 45%...
What else happened in April? Perhaps a little slush money goes the way of someone
that could be controlled (on parole for computer crimes), Nakoula Basseley Nakoula
posing as Israeli citizen Sam Bacile in California?
He is actually Egyptian. He is put together with Alan Roberts, a onetime porn
filmmaker who hadnt made a movie in 18 years
By June “The Innocence of Muslims” is made depicting the prophet Muhammad as a
fraud, coward, murderer, and pedophile. The producer claims the money comes from
100 Jews. http://www.thejewishweek.com/innocence-muslims-0 To date they are
unnamed but hang on, that statement is very important.
By July it is parked it on youtube and nothing much happens.
are some scattered protests but nothing out of the ordinary for the region.
Then a protest was reportedly announced on August 30 by Gamaa Islamiyya
-blind-sheik/ , an Egyptian terrorist group, to call for the release of its leader,
Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman aka the blind sheik, who is serving a life sentence for
the first World Trade Center bombing.
Just weeks prior, in June, the State Department actually issued a visa to a member
of that very same Gamaa Islamiyya again, this is a designated terrorist
organization and met with him in Washington, as part of a delegation of Egyptian
leaders. He is told by State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland, in reference
to Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman, We neither had then, nor do we have now, any reason
to believe that this particular individual who at the time of his application was
a member of parliament would pose a threat to the United States,
No Way? Really? Not a threat?
This is the azzhole from the 1993 World Trade Center bombings doing LIFE in a
Federal prison for organizing the attack!
In early September there is a lot of loose talk about the release of the Blind
Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, but nothing materializes.
Conveniently, clips from the video was aired on Egyptian television on Sept. 8,
This is the bait being thrown into the trap.
Until then, nobody knew about it, it was practacley an unknown.
Not anymore. It is now the reason for initial scattered protests. It is the
finger yanking on the trigger. September 11 is just days away!
Who could NOT think that this will cause major rioting and attacks against
Americans? Of course they will cause riots and attacks.
A successful attack on an American embassy or consulate where many hostages are
taken in mid September could lead to a late October resolution and release of the
hostages, thus making jugears look good just in time for the election.
Lets say a consulate where the locals knew there were no Marines and no real
capability for defense at all? Where the Obama State Department withdrew a 16
member Special Forces team from Benghazi just one month before?
Lets say just like the one in Benghazi, Libya, where the only security was local
rent-a-cops who knew the entire layout?
The security for the Consulate was specifically designed by the State Department
and awarded to a small British outfit, Blue Mountain. Blue Mountain Group was not
identified as the vendor in that summary of the contract. Instead, the vendor was
listed under the vague term Miscellaneous Foreign Awardee.
Even stranger, the vendor contact address on the contract 1275 First Street, NE,
Washington, D.C. is not the office of Blue Mountain Group, but is instead the
office of the Regulatory Secretariat Division of the General Services
Administration of the federal government. The phone contact listed in the contract
is of an office number for an employee of the GSA.
The State Department knew exactly what level of security existed there which was
practically none. Just a five man security team from the US diplomatic protection
service and three members of a local revolutionary brigade were also on duty on the
night of the attacks.
Why did the WH refused to act or issue an order to help save our people there?
They watched and listened for six hours and did NOTHING.
Of course they did nothing.
They were waiting for the embassy personnel to be taken hostage.
That did not happen. The local koranimals predictably (for anyone with half a
brain) went ape-s&i+ and tried to kill or f*** everything in site and did not stick
to the plan. Why?
Because of that, most of the politically valuable embassy personnel escaped. That
is because the attackers were told by the local rent-a-cops about the off site safe
house and went there to kill the high value target, Ambassador Stevens as well as
the unknown factor, Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. If not for
that and the magnificent heroism of Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen
Doherty, all the Embassy staff would have been prisoners awaiting The Won, Hussein
Obama The Magnificent to save them by releasing Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman in an
exchange and begin performing victory laps for his astounding Middle East Foreign
Remember, “nor do we have now, any reason to believe that this particular
individual who at the time of his application was a member of parliament would
pose a threat to the United States,”
Just in time for the election.
By the way, have you heard a word about them, where they are, what they saw?
You heard the White House and The State Department (Clinton) and the entire
spectrum of communist agenda liberal media drone on and on about the video and
the spontaneous protest and it was not a terrorist attack.
For eight solid days.
But if the plan to allow the embassy to be overrun, claim it was by spontaneous
protestors (that did not ever exist
because standard security measures were removed, failed because the attackers
followed Ambassador Stevens to the alternate safe house location to kill him
instead of capture him, what went wrong?
That part is still unraveling but a lot of it is already out in the open.
From here I am running out of steam. Can anyone unravel the connections of Stevens
to his activities in the two links above?
Also, I believe he was involved in very similar corrupt activity for the overthrow
of Muammar Gaddafi which occurred October 2011, after his March 2011 assignment as
the liaison to the opposition in Libya.
“”Stevens attended Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s meeting in Paris Monday
night with representatives of the Libyan opposition, as did U.S. Ambassador to
Libya Gene Cretz, who has also had contacts with the opposition.
President Obama told reporters Friday that his administration would appoint an
official to maintain contact with the budding Libyan opposition, but officials had
not revealed who it would be.””
It was Stevens and he had a history in Libya. He had served in Libya twice
previously: as the Deputy Chief of Mission (from 2007 to 2009) and as Special
Representative to the National Transitional Council (from March 2011 to November
2011) during the Libyan revolution. He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S.
Ambassador to Libya.
Anyone care to tackle the back-story on the latter part of all this? Like I said,
I am running out of steam. Anybody have any new leads on this point?
Ok, this is the second time I have come across this and the first time the rumor was hinting that they were not locals but actual Afghans shipped in.
So the question is do Libyans wear Afghan-style tunics???? Because this other blog was laying out something even more wild.
What kind of coffee do you drink?
Lots of busted links in that one...
What kind of coffee do you drink?
The kind where you can think.
I didn't write the articles, Salon, Jewish Week, Holloywood.com, Commentary Magazine, Bretbart.com, Telegraph UK, Hotair, ABC News, Washington Times and ABC News Radio had the info.
Here, for your convenience are all links.
Read, think. It's not illegal... yet.
Probably because "the Taliban are in the building," as the security guy Nordstrom [sp?] said.
the lawyer was probably from CAIR.
The Walid Shoebat article?
It’s outrageous what the Traitor has done to that man.
It’s is the first I’ve heard that he was a pastor...
The ambassador’s last meeting of the day was about 8 PM Libya time. The attack started anywhere from 9:30 to 10:45 depending on the source.
One witness to the consulate attack Tuesday night said that a handful of Libyan soldiers dressed in the uniform of the new national army were on patrol outside the U.S. diplomatic structure when the mob arrived, but that they were almost immediately overwhelmed. The witness said the Libyan forces concentrated on evacuating Libyan civilians attending a private wedding on the same street as the consulate when the armed militants started opening fire. “There were many people there who were trying to get to safety,” said the man, a Benghazi resident who declined to be named because he feared retaliation from the militants. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444426404577647060576633348.html
2012 spring : (NORTH AFRICA : IN SPRING 2012 SMALL TEAMS OF SPECIAL FORCES ARRIVED AT US EMBASSIES : THE MISSION IS TO SET UP A NETWORK THAT COULD QUICKLY STRIKE A TERRORIST TARGET OR RESCUE A HOSTAGE) (Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...————White House widening covert war in North Africa , AP ^ | 10/3/2012 | Kimberly Dozier Posted on 10/03/2012 12:05:58 PM PDT by mojito
JULY 27, 2012 : (REPORT : OBAMA DOJ OFFICIAL TOM PEREZ MET WITH HARDCORE ISLAMISTS INCLUDING ISNA’S MOHAMMED MAGID) ... an October 2011 Daily Caller report, which described a D.C. meeting between Perez and hardcore Islamists, including Mohamed Magid, the Sudan-born, Saudi-trained head of the Islamic Society of North America.
At the end of the public meeting, Perez called more meetings with the Islamists, even though he had watched while Magid called for legal punishment of people who criticize Islamic texts that call for violence against non-Muslims and for the subordination of women to men.(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...—————DoJ official refuses to denounce demands for Saudi-style blasphemy law, The Daily Caller ^ | 7/27/12 | Neil Munro Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 8:35:53 PM by Nachum
...another connection between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood’s shariah effort is Ingrid Mattson, the Islamic Law prof from Hartford Seminary who was invited to the DNC convention in Denver in 2008.
See “Meet Ingrid Mattson - Islam professor mixes Islamism, academics, and politics. ,” National Review Online ^ | September 11, 2008 | Jonathan Schanzer , September 11, 2008, 2:00 p.m.
17 posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:58:29 AM by piasa | To 1
ISNA is also associated with Hamas’ Mousa Abu Marzook who shifted his operations to syria...
And Sami al Arian of Tampa Florida’s Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Obama sure does have strange bedfellows.
21 posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:46:38 AM by piasa | To 20
The counter terror effort indicates that the administration has been worried for some time about a growing threat posed by al-Qaida and its offshoots in North Africa.
On the subject of developing a special operations unit, U.S. officials received approval from Congress well before the Benghazi attack to reprogram some funding in the budget that could be used for the commando program in Libya. But the details are still being discussed with the Libyans and also must get final approval from Congress, according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
The initial cost is estimated at about $6.2 million.
They are waiting for "final approval" for over a year for 6.2 mill?
It does not sound like the administration was THAT worried about growing threats posed by al-Qaida and its offshoots in North Africa.
It sounds just like "we are studying that" or "we have that under investigation."
This is about all you get in the way of an answer on anything from the current administration."
MAY 1, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 1: Deputy Commander of U.S. Embassy Tripolis Local Guard Force is carjacked, beaten, and detained by armed youth. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.
MAY 1, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 1: British Embassy in Tripoli is attacked by a violent mob and set on fire. Other NATO embassies attacked as well. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.
MAY 3, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 3: The State Department declines a request from personnel concerned about security at the U.S. Embassy in Libya for a DC-3 plane to take them around the country. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.
MAY 6, 2012 SUN : (YEMEN : AL-QUSO IS KILLED---See USS COLE)
MAY 20-21, 2012 : (CHICAGO, IL : NATO SUMMIT IS SCHEDULED 20, 21 --TURKEY BLOCKS ISRAELI PARTICIPATION?)
c MAY 2012 : (AT THIS TIME AS ISRAEL SEEKS TO DISCUSS FURTHER RADICALIZATION IN THE ARAB WORLD "THE AMERICANS PREFERRED TO FIND EXCUSES") [Israeli] Foreign Ministry official on signs of radicalization in Arab world: We knew what was happening, but the Americans preferred to find excuses. ......For months before the most recent attacks on U.S. embassies in North African states, Foreign Ministry and U.S. State Department officials had been arguing over developments in these countries. Senior figures in Jerusalem claimed that Washington was burying its head in the sand and ignoring the increasing radicalization in states such as Tunisia and Egypt. (Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...--------Israeli Foreign Ministry officials say U.S. ignored Arab wrath, Haaretz ^ | Sep.16, 2012 | 1:01 AM | Barak Ravid Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:15:34 PM by Hunton Peck
MAY 22, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 22: Two rocket-propelled grenades are fired at the Benghazi office of the International Committee of the Red Cross, less than 1 mile from the U.S. Consulate. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.
MAY 2012 : (US CONGRESS : HOUSE &THE INTERNET----SEE 1ST AMENDMENT) House lawmakers will consider an international proposal next week to give the United Nations more control over the Internet. The proposal is backed by China, Russia, Brazil, India and other UN members, and would give the UNs International Telecommunication Union (ITU) more control over the governance of the Internet. Next weeks hearing is expected to bring more attention in the U.S. to the measure, which would give the UN more control over cybersecurity, data privacy, technical standards and the Webs address system. It would also allow foreign government-owned Internet providers to charge extra for international traffic and allow for more... --------House to examine plan for United Nations to regulate the Internet, THE HILL ^ | 05/26/12 08:10 AM ET | Brendan Sasso , Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:18:13 AM · by BenLurkin
2012 : (AFTER AQIM SPREADS ACROSS THE SAHARA AND TAKES CONTROL OF THE NORTHERN PART OF MALI, THE WHITE HOUSE HOLDS A SERIES OF MEETINGS ABOUT AQIM GAINING STRENGTH)....Even before the attack on the U.S. compound, according to an Oct. 2, 2012 report in The Washington Post, the White House held a series of secret meetings that came out of a growing concern that "al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb" (AQIM) was gaining strength after it took control of the northern parts of the African state of Mali, where it created a new Afghan-like sanctuary.
In the last year it has begun to spread its influence across the Sahara.
AQIM's weaponry came from post-Gadhafi Libya, whose arsenal was boosting the arms trade from Morocco to Sinai. Israeli sources have noted that Libyan weapons, including shoulder-fired SA-7 anti-aircraft missiles, were also reaching the Gaza Strip...Moreover, it was unveiled at the end of September by journalist Eli Lake that a U.S. government study this past August reported how the leadership of al-Qaida in Pakistan dispatched senior commanders to North Africa to help build its new network there. This is a pattern found elsewhere. ...--------Benghazi's meaning for Israel and the Mideast, Israel Hayom ^ | 10/19/2012 | Dore Gold Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:55:09 AM by mojito
This happened in early june but supposedly we were not certain we got him then, it took a while to confirm:
JUNE 4, 2012 : (PAKISTAN : AL LIBI aka "LION OF LIBYA" IS KILLED IN A DRONE ATTACK-----see ALQAEDA, ZARQAWI, AND BENGHAZI LIBYA)
June 2012 : A terrorist website posts photos of ambassador Stevens as he jogs in Tripoli [other sources say Benghazi], and a threat is posted... looks like someone was on the prowl for him at least as early as June.
June 6, 2012 : An IED is used to blow a hole in the perimiter wall around our mission in Benghazi
Junw 6, 2012 : canada closes its embassy in Tehran, Iran
June 10, 2012 : The British ambassador's car is attacked in Tripoli and two bodyguards are injured
June 11, 2012 : Terrorists post a youtube video about the June 6 bombing of the wall at the US mission in Benghazi
JUNE 2012 : (EGYPT : AN ISLAMIC BIGWIG, SAFWAT HAGAZY, AT A CAMPIGN RALLY FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, CLAIMS THAT IF THE MB CANDIDATE MORSI WINS THE PRESIDENCY, EGYPT'S CAPITAL WILL MOVE FROM CAIRO TO JERUSALEM----see OIC)------Jerusalem to Be the Capital of ... What?, DianeWest.net ^ | 11JUN12 | Diane West, Monday, June 11, 2012 5:07:56 PM · by bayouranger
JUNE 17, 2012 : (IL : SUBVERSIVE HIZB-UT-TAHRIR "CALIPHATE CONFERENCE" IS TO BE HELD IN ROLLING MEADOWS IL NEAR CHICAGO ) Hizb ut-Tahrir is an international Islamic organization that openly calls for restoration of the caliphate -- that is, the political union of Muslims worldwide in a single Sharia state ruled by the caliph. This means that the group is dedicated to subverting and destroying all governments not ruled by Islamic law, and as such it is banned in many countries. But not in the U.S., which has never shown any awareness on an official level of non-violent efforts to impose Sharia. They're once again coming to the Chicago area to hold their Caliphate Conference: it will be held on June 17 in Rolling Meadows, Illinois.
What is especially noteworthy about this is that absolutely none of the self-professed "moderate" Muslim leaders in the U.S. will disavow Hizb ut-Tahrir or its goals. And note also that these people have no problem getting space in a hotel for their conference advocating a political system that will destroy freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights of all people before the law, but freedom fighters trying to resist Sharia and Islamization are hounded out of public spaces with increasing frequency.------Caliphate conference coming to Chicago area, Jihad Watch ^ | 5-30-12 Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:49:28 PM by SJackson
JUNE 19, 2012 : (MEXICO : OBAMA MEETS WITH PUTIN ABOUT SYRIA)
JUNE 26, 2012 : (RUSH LIMBAUGH TALKS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF HUMA ABEDIN HAVING FAMILIAL TIES TO EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT MORSI'S WIFE ---See MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD)
JUNE 29, 2012 : (EGYPT : IN HIS FIRST PUBLIC SPEECH SINCE THE ELECTIONS, EGYPT'S PRESIDENT-ELECT MORSI VOWS TO FREE THE BLIND SHEIKH)
JUNE 2012 late : (LIBYA : ANOTHER ATTACK ON THE RED CROSS IN BENGHAZI; THE RED CROSS PULLS OUT)
If I remember right, wasn't June/july when the "Innocence of Muslims" video was first posted to the web?
There was also at that time another video- not dirty as this was was described but better produced and better aimed at defanging islamic radicalism- due to come out or in the making at that time against islamic radicalism... this second video was briefly assumed by the press to be the one the state dept kept pushing. It has now been pretty much buried.
Sept 11, 2012 : A few hours before the attack on the embassy , al Qaeda's Zawahiri- whose name is never uttered by Obama for fear we would forget that he killed bin Laden and ended the War on Terror and the war on Biden's friends the Taliban - released a tape calling for revenge against the US for our drone kill of al Libi in Pakistan.
The guy sitting in jail had violated two court decisions, one of which was not to use the internet, I forget what the other was but he apparently violated that as well. Judges don’t like to be ignored.
JUNE 14, 2012 Thu : (OBAMA “NEW AFRICA STRATEGY” TO BE RELEASED TODAY.... ECONOMIC, UNICORN RANCHING, ETC)
Source for above : Obama to unveil new Africa strategy, AFP ^ | June 13, 2012 | Stephen Collinson
From what I can tell, Obama’s “new comprehensive Africa strategy” was to flub it all up and let China take over.
AUGUST 20, 2012 : (AFRICA : ) Mali’s Islamist warlord declares war on the West, channel4.com ^ | 20AUG12 | Lindsey Hilsum Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 4:03:05 PM by bayouranger
islam + magic = WTF?
After Mali’s warlord declared war on us On August 20, and the Benghazi mission was hit, ....
SEPTEMBER 1, 2012 : (MALI’S INTERIM PRES TRAORE ASKS ECOWAS FOR AIR SUPPORT TO FIGHT ISLAMIC INSURGENTS IN THE NORTH) The military chiefs of 15 West Africa nations have begun deliberations to “finalize a roadmap” for an armed intervention in Mali, whose northern half is occupied by al-Qaida-linked Islamists. Interim President Dioncounda Traore on Sept. 1 asked the Economic Community of West African States, or ECOWAS, for air support to destroy rebel bases and for five battalions to help reconquer northern towns. The meeting’s agenda includes a review of that request and a presentation of a deployment plan. pppppWest African Military Chiefs Meet to Plan Mali Move ABC ^ | September 14, 2012 | AP Friday, September 14, 2012 5:15:10 PM · by JerseyanExile
SEPTEMBER 2012 : (LIBYA : MAGARIAF SAYS BENGHAZI ATTACKERS CAME FROM MALI & ALGERIA) The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi that killed American ambassador Chris Stevens was pre-planned and included foreigners, Libyan President said yesterday. President of Libyas National Congress, Mohamed Magariaf, in an interview to the CBS news aired yesterday said his government has arrested about 50 people, some of which are foreigners and connected to al-Qaeda. They entered Libya from different directions, and some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria, he said. These ugly deeds, criminal deeds were directed against them, the late ambassador, Chris Stevens, and his colleagues, does not represent in any way, in any sense, the... -——Attack on US embassy in Benghazi pre-planned: Libyan Prez, The Mumbai First Post ^ | September 17, 2012 Monday
A very interesting series of connections. However, politically it does not make sense for Obama to have a bunch of hostages taken to be traded for the blind Sheikh. If that scenario had happened he would have looked weak, not electable. I look forward to studying the links.
On a somewhat related conspiracy line, do you have any idea if there is something funny about Grover Norquist’s Muslim connections as has been reported here at FR? Having all Republicans sign a no tax pledge is a very effective way to completely snarl up our government, as we have seen.
You are awesome. Nice interesting and well written post.
The attackers brought a Jerry tank of diesel fuel? Seem odd? They knew the layout and wante to smoke them out, alive.
Must say though, that the conspiracy is a bit too wild for me. The parts are there but it’s a big piece that is missing.
Consider, on September 12, 2012 AP interviewed the so called film maker, who identified himself as an Israeli Jew, named Sam Bacile. Think there was no intent to inflame? We already know Obama's state department was apologizing for this so called offensive video before any uprising began anywhere.
From the interview I saw with Terry Jones, he was contacted by 'Sam Bacile' to promote the video, when General Dempsey was ordered to make public his personal call to dissuade preacher Jones from promoting this so called video. How is it that Obama and Clinton knew in advance all this specific information regarding an unknown film maker. I think they knew what was in the works from the git-go in anticipation of orchestrating world wide Muslim reaction to a Israeli Jew and a Christian preacher mocking their god. Look what their Egyptian leader was demanding. Laws to prevent anyone from speaking out about their god.
I think Obama and Clinton got caught with their pants down at the Benghazi weapons depot, decided the priority was to NOT reveal what they were actually doing in Benghazi. To have defended the Americans would by necessity exposed their weapons depot. So with their offensive video operation in progress they used the video as cover-up to keep secret their weapons stash. See I think Obama gets intel outside of normal government channels. Look who has his ear 24/7, Axelrod and Jarrett.
Very detailed and interesting time line - it brings together a lot of isolated incidents (and nearly forgotten incidents, because they were barely reported).
I think that's definitely true.
The video had 4 iterations, btw: in the first version, "Desert Warrior", the main character who later became Mohammed was refered to as the "Terrorist George" or the "Terrorist B." Remember how the extreme left and the Islamists used to refer to George Bush as the "Terrorist George Bush"?
I think the mysterious Nakoula (formerly Bacile), who actually appears to have yet another name now, was probably making a standard anti-Bush movie for the Islamic market. His background is pretty unclear, except for some fraudulent financial activity he was engaged in, and he seems to have Islamist connections and be neither a Jew nor a Christian.
I think somebody decided that taking this movie and morphing into a supposedly "anti-Muslim" movie while putting out the (false) message that it was made by an Israeli Jew living in America and supported by Coptic Christians, and being promoted by a fundamentalist American preacher who had already been cast as a villain, was going to be a real propaganda coup. And so it was, since the first place it was showed outside of the internet was Egyptian state TV, as a warm-up to 9/11, so that the mob could be rallied when the AQ forces showed up with their heavy weapons and stormed the embassy, succeeding in planting the black flag of AQ on the American embassy.
And Obama and Hillary were ready to go with it, since they were no doubt involved in setting up this meme, probably to protect something even more nefarious that they were up to.
See links in post #17
Haven't researched this one, gleeaikin. Will put on the to do list.
On your first point, or first paragraph. I agree it would make zer0 look weak. The overriding thoughts from the zer0 crowd may have been the media will help us to spin out a win if it goes down the way as planned. I do not know if this was the plan, but zer0 would try something of this sort, of this I have no doubt, if he thought he could get away with it. Have no links to offer at this time, only speculation and observations. The thought of this being a possible plan (hostages taken to be traded for the blind Sheikh) is not mine, though with zer0 and zer0's saudi handlers, it is a possible explanation of a possible plan.
placemark and notation to review thread. Thanks everyone.
His new job as Community Organizer for Al-Qaeda ?
Hmm, well he does have experience...
I assumed his new job would be the voice of Weather on the Eights.
gleeaikin, have been reading and researching. So far am finding no connection to the Romney campaign by Grover Norquist other than the numerous connections mentioned by liberal reports and some minor worries from Conservatives regarding a tax pledge which was allegedly signed. Norquist is reported to not want increases to Military spending. Norquist wants the Military gutted, and has been criticizing Romney in relation to raising Military spending.
Norquist has connections to democRATs and appears to be one of their best friends. It is odd that democRATs are attempting to tie Norquist to Romney, in that they report it over and over. Like I typed, there are concerns from some Conservatives and Norquist is labeled (perhaps wrongly) a Republican lobbyist. I can see why the questions are being raised, but at this point, Norquist appears to have no connection to the Romney campaign but rather instead maybe is a democRAT plant to stir controversy.
There is one thing and one thing only our Constitution requires funding for. That one thing is defense. Norquist is against funding defense of our nation. He (Norquist) appears to be dangerous, though can find no information which leads me to believe Romney or any other Republican takes him seriously. On the matter of defense of our nation, Norquist sounds like a, dyed in the wool, liberal.
additional review required for digesting all the information contained on this thread. Thanks, once more, everyone.
Actually, the concern I raised, which comes from reading some things posted here at FR, is Norquist’s ties to Islamic sources including the fact that he has a Muslim wife. I never suggested he has anything to do with Romney or his campaign. However, his no new taxes pledge, even when the Dems are ready to give up a lot more than they get, has tied the country up in knots. Now you say he is against military spending. Sounds even more suspicious. Frankly, if I were a Republican candidate I would not touch his pledge with a ten foot poll and if I had already signed it, I would cancel my pledge.