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6 November 2012 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 11/06/2012 5:18:28 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The media-inspired polls have to be cooked. So many evidences are present that people are fed up with the lies of government, the polls can NOT be accurate. More than likely, the media wants the public to follow the election through their services so they can sell advertising. A close, controversial election provides viewership and sells ads. May a little simplistic, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Nevertheless, any other outcome than what I want and the other side cheated. That's going to be the cry anyway.


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KEYWORDS: lies; obama; polls; riggedpolls; romney; vanity
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Pollsters are like their President.

They Lie


21 posted on 11/06/2012 5:32:57 AM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: Raycpa

heeeee


22 posted on 11/06/2012 5:33:13 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

!. They didn’t factor in the Tea Party vote
2. They used a lot smaller samples of the population to get their data
3. They feared being sued by the Obama administration for seeming to be partisan, in favor of the republicans.


23 posted on 11/06/2012 5:34:07 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The presidential polls are wrong.

We were told this TOO CLOSE TO CALL crap with the Wisconsin Recall. 49 MINUTES after the polls closed the election was called for Walker, who won 53-46.

To all you worry warts: take a sweet trip down memory lane and watch this youtube video of MSNBC announcing how we would be up all night before knowing who won, and then having to eat crow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pchwcD4IPzs


24 posted on 11/06/2012 5:34:17 AM PST by ShovelThemOut
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Because the samples are not radomly selected from the total population, they are inherently skewed. In sampling, it is required that each and every individual, whether that be a widget or a person, must have the same chance of being selected. Polls use filters to pick their individuals which means they are not doing random sampling. Saying that you need x number of samples out of y number of the total population for a 95% confidence rate without random sampling is incorrect in statistical practice. As long as there is a filter like using the results of the last sampling effort to pick individuals for a new sample the results are skewed. That’s not to say that a broke clock isn’t right twice a day. So some polsters may hit the right numbers. But then there are a lot of polls. Another factor is the use of polls to drive results later. Proplr like to be on the winning team.
25 posted on 11/06/2012 5:35:19 AM PST by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Evangelicals have yet to vote. 22 mil voter guides were distributed. 9,000 churches, 1.6 mil. calls per David Barton on Glenn Beck yesterday.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 5:35:57 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Post here why you believe the polls to have been wrong all along.

Because the media has had its Obama knee pads on since he won the nomination over Hillary on '08.

27 posted on 11/06/2012 5:36:40 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

1. When a conservative is surrounded by liberal friends and asked by a pollster, they sometimes answer saying they’ll vote liberal, when they are a closeted conservative.
2. Over-sampling of liberals, because they are home to answer the phone.
3. Using 2008 turnout data that led to Obama’s win, instead of 2010 turnout data that led to Tea Party win
4. Pollsters asking questions that are so convoluted, the default answer is “yes” in favor of the desired outcome.

Why that may not be enough:
1. Voter fraud in favor of democrats
2. Suppression of military vote with their mostly Republican ballots not arriving in time or being counted
3. Vote machine shennanigans
4. Mail in ballot fraud by Democrats to hijack Republican voting
5. Legal maneuvers to invalidate results that favor Republicans

So polls may be biased toward the Democratic result, but fraud and theft may still enable them to win.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 5:37:15 AM PST by tbw2
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To: cripplecreek
I think both sides want people to believe its close to get people out to vote.

I think you are exactly right. I truly believe Romney wins comfortably..and the "pollsters" and "watchers" have known it all along..

29 posted on 11/06/2012 5:38:10 AM PST by cardinal4 (Vote him out!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Newt was on with Piers Morgan tonight and said that he believe Romney will carry both Pennsylvania and Ohio. First on Pennsylvania, he said people tend to forget that the state has a Republican governor, a Republican senator, a Republican House majority, a Republican state House and Senate and it’s coal country where they are not happy with Obama.

He also says regarding Ohio that in coal country there will be quite a few Democrat votes cast for Mitt Romney, so it can’t be taken for granted that just because it’s a Democrat vote it is an Obama vote.

He says a lot more and you can watch below:

http://www.therightscoop.com/newt-i-think-well-carry-pennsylvania-and-ohio-all-democrats-votes-wont-be-for-obama/


30 posted on 11/06/2012 5:38:10 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Oversampling of Democrats based on an 08 turnout.

They believe that the White voter is not going to turnout in the numbers to defeat the 'ethnic' voter as in 08.

That is the demographic dominating the polls.

31 posted on 11/06/2012 5:40:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

1. Because the thought of it makes me feel better than dealing with reality.

2. So I have an excuse when Romney loses.

3. So there is yet another useless thread to consume FR resources.


32 posted on 11/06/2012 5:41:53 AM PST by paul544
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Rush laid it out clearly yesterday. The SRM is going back to 2008 numbers and ignore the mauling the dims got in 2010, which was referendum on 0 bummer.
33 posted on 11/06/2012 5:44:34 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: paul544
And you wasted bandspace with your inane comment.
34 posted on 11/06/2012 5:44:54 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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It is raining here in Florida. My DEMOCRAT neighbors just went to vote for Romney and Connie Mack and the man is 75 yoa. He has never voted in his life. They have been watching the Benghazi coverage, they are disgusted with Obama over Obamacare and how he sued AZ over illegals. They see no improvement in the economy and they are never voting Democrat again!! How many people are out here just like them that are not counted?
35 posted on 11/06/2012 5:45:32 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Narrative. Indiana was won by Obama in 2008, but it was excluded from all swing-state polling this year. Why? Because including Indiana would have kept the early swing-state polling within MoE. And that didn't fit the MSM narrative.

They had to have this election sewed up going in -- and thusly why you see the MSM/DemPollOrgs generate the same fake meme -- because otherwise they are going to be destroyed by Election Day turnout. You see this already happening today in Ohio where through early voting alone, Mitt has erased Bobo's 2008 margin of victory.

36 posted on 11/06/2012 5:46:33 AM PST by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, CO, IA, NH = 285EV)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Wishful thinking.


37 posted on 11/06/2012 5:47:09 AM PST by NKStarr
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To: fortheDeclaration

Just doing my part.


38 posted on 11/06/2012 5:47:20 AM PST by paul544
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

There is no doubt why the polls are all wrong.

They are working for the Obama campaign.

It’s just that simple.

The Media has been working for Obama since day one.
Soon they will have to change their tactics, from Fellating Obama to attacking Mitt Romney.

It will be an easy move for them.


39 posted on 11/06/2012 5:47:35 AM PST by Venturer
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To: cardinal4

Yesterday morning Karl Rove kind of let it slip when he said that close polls are a more effective campaign tool than a wide margin.


40 posted on 11/06/2012 5:47:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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