Cribs for needy families stolen in Woodstock (unintentional irony alert)

wsbradio ^ | nov 29, 2012 | Pete Combs

[from occupied ga]

When Monti Price arrived for work at the Hope Center in Woodstock Wednesday morning, she was struck by what she did not see.

“I noticed a big empty space in our parking lot where our trailer used to be,” she said.

Inside that trailer, five brand new cribs intended for needy mothers like Angela, who earned them by attending parenting classes. Angela arrived at the ministry for pregnant women and new mothers on Thursday afternoon, hoping to pick up the crib for her three-month old son, David.

“Just to find out this,” she said, shaking her head in sad surprise, “I’m really disappointed.”

Without the crib, she said, her young son will do what he has done since birth.

“David will sleep with me for now, in the same bed. And it’s not even safe for the baby,” she added, saying there is just no way she can afford a crib on her own.

Hope Center executives say, since word of the theft started spreading, the community has rushed in with offers of support. There have been enough donations to cover the purchase of new cribs, but not enough yet to buy a new trailer. The trailer, which was also donated, had been used to deliver the cribs and baby seats, also given to those who earn them by taking parenting classes and who might not otherwise be able to afford them.

Woodstock Police continue their investigation into the theft. And Angela had a message for the thief:

“You ought to be ashamed of yourself,” she admonished, “and ask for forgiveness from God.”

[Drew68]

in the 70’s, 50% of illegitimate babies were put up for adoption. Adopted children do much better in life than even children born to two parent homes.

Now less than 1% of illegitimate children are put up for adoption.

Adoption laws have become so messy, convoluted and racially-based that many American couples wanting children find it easier to adopt foreign kids.

[Drew68]

Would aborting the baby have been preferred?

This thread is a perfect example of why abortion will always remain legal.

From reading several of the posts here, it is clear that many people who call themselves "pro-life" are in their hearts pro-choice. You can see it in the words they write that, yes, abortion would've been preferable and less of a burden to society.

[from occupied ga]

your religious tendencies are not my business

Correct.

christians believe we are not to be “ selective in compassion

You speak for all Christians - wow.

tax collectors and adulterers of His time were the “low life’s” and he befriended them all

You can befriend my share. I reiterate I reserve my compassion for those who I feel deserve it.

[longfellowsmuse]

“You can befriend my share.”

I would be happy to. Merry Christmas!

[Conscience of a Conservative]

And yes, she is (the same as a thief).

How is taking charity, voluntarily given (even leaving out the part about her taking the class in order to get the crib), the same as being a thief?

[snarkybob]

“From reading several of the posts here, it is clear that many people who call themselves “pro-life” are in their hearts pro-choice. You can see it in the words they write that, yes, abortion would’ve been preferable and less of a burden to society.”

I’m not sure about pro-choice, but they certainly seem to be pro-get even. Maybe even pro-hate.
Funny thing is this was a private charity and this was a woman who took parenting classes to get a crib.
The very idea that this woman wasn’t shunned has enraged a few people.
And then folks wonder why the social conservative movement seems to be stalled.

[Newbomb Turk]

It's an imperfect world. People are always going to be doing things you don't like. What is your solution to that?

I know people will make mistakes. I have no problem with that. Just don't make me pay for other peoples continuing poor decision making skills.

I want it to hurt a little. Pain in a great motivator and teaching tool. Hunger too.

[Eaker]

Adopted children do much better in life than even children born to two parent homes.

I call bullshit on this statement.

A great big pile of it.

[MNDude]

Think about it. Almost every child that is adopted is adopted by two parent families.

Republicans are a lot more likely to adopt a kid than a democrat is.

[Eaker]

Adopted children do much better in life than even children born to two parent homes.

This statement is what I called bullshit on.

You think about it. A child's biological parent are going to do a better job on the whole than any other combination.

You stating that adoptive parents are better than biological parents is utter crap and sounds a lot like a flaming liberal nanny state concept.

[Albion Wilde]

This is the trouble with conservatives. They only see a problem when it gets to the final stages. They do not fight for the broad principles that matter, early on. Piling onto a single mother is not the answer. And if a family wants to send a kid to college, they need to start very early and sacrifice a lot. I know. I am a single mother and my kid has been in private schools for 24 years, about to complete the doctorate. I also finished my master’s in midlife. Not a cent in loans or scholarships for either of us, just hard work, lots of planning and sacrifice. Based on those experiences of mine, I know I have God and my parents to thank for giving me a backbone.

American youth have been having illegitimate children at an increasing rate for the past 40 years. Suddenly, conservatives have discovered this phenomenon, and they want to blame an individual, now that the entire welfare structure has re-elected a Socialist? Where were they when abortion was legalized, birth control was made freely available, prayer was taken out of the schools, adultery was decriminalized, and no-fault divorce and palimony were enabled? All those things happened in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Where were the conservatives and the Tea Party then?

This girl obviously did not have the luxury of a moral education that I had. Therefore I am looking at the larger problem here; that conservatives would rather attack each other or the victims of the society they have neglected to safeguard than to solve the problems when they are little. Conservatives have been asleep in the pews since Eisenhower. And now look.

[grellis]

Do they have to pass a test or can they just sit there?

Yes, they have to pass a test. The center volunteers never assume that clients have gained knowledge--we make damn sure they do. If clients cannot definitively demonstrate that they have learned from a particular lesson/class, the class must be repeated before points can be earned. Most of the clients have jobs, but they are low-paying and generally part time. Clients can earn points by continuing their education, and if the client does this a C average must be maintained.

[from occupied ga]

We probably all agree that government "charity" is bad, but worth reading is this article about the pitfalls of all charity.

[dfwgator]

Would you rather she abort the kid?

[dfwgator]

Almost every child that is adopted is adopted by two parent families.

Unfortunately more and more those two "parent" families are "parents" of the same sex...it's all the rage in Hollywood.

[from occupied ga]

In order:

I'd rather she had practiced contraception UNTIL she could actually support a kid - novel concept

I'd rather she WORK and support the kid. Afer all she had time to take the clases - Novel concept again I'm sure

Since she did NEITHER of the choices I outlined I'd rather she feel some pain for making the choice that she did. At that she might actually learn something from her bad choice, but no, as long as people are insulated from the consequences of their stupid decisions by either government welfare or in this case private charity, then the consequences and hence the learning aren't there.

I have news flash for you. Not everyone considers abortion to be the argument ender that you apparently do. There are many societal issues that I consider far more important than abortion. Just think if 0bama had been aborted.