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Kansas City Chiefs’ Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, then self
Helmet2Helmet ^ | December 1, 2012 | Zack Kelberman

Posted on 12/01/2012 8:54:51 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

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To: Gay State Conservative
One can certainly put that forth as one possibility.

ONE possibility? A person has an inborn instinct to live. If he was playing football, he was somewhat healthy.

What does killing the mother of his child have to do with any ailment 'you' put forth as his defense?

"The thief/satan has come to KILL/Rob/Destroy"!

61 posted on 12/01/2012 12:06:29 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Travis McGee

Drink but drugs even more....Ruin you defenses against possession. This is why drugs are so evil. There are a lot of low level possessed and high level possessed walking around. You can call them hypnotized. On automatic. If you really want to be possessed then become a Muslim

How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people —— G I Gurdjieff


62 posted on 12/01/2012 12:12:50 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Dreadful. Prayers for that little baby.


63 posted on 12/01/2012 12:18:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lil Flower

Obama followers have the ‘spirit of seduction’.

ALL eyes, thoughts and PRAISE on JESUS and not on the spirit of.... And that is ...Resisting satan and he WILL flee. Resist any thought he has control over you. Resist any thought of him/evil at all. “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

Jesus says He is praying for you....John 17:9 “I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those YOU have given ME, for they are YOURS”.

Luke 22:32 “But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail.”


64 posted on 12/01/2012 12:22:37 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Have you ever noticed that women do terrible things to a mans mind in certain circumstances?
65 posted on 12/01/2012 12:28:22 PM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Little Bill

Hmmm. Seems the man did a terrible thing to the woman’s life here. But if you insist on blaming the victim, go right ahead, I’m sure you have your reasons.


66 posted on 12/01/2012 12:37:37 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: maro

“Isn’t this just a fancy way of saying “the devil made him do it”.”

I don’t know how a ‘chemical imbalance’ can be compared to ‘the devil make him do it’.

In addition, I wasn’t commenting on the thread and the deaths of two people.

I was commenting on the question of the poster who asked a very specific question.


67 posted on 12/01/2012 12:41:36 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Little Bill

I have no idea what set him off. I had a friend and former classmate do exactly the same thing as Belcher. He pulled out a gun at a party while his very young children were sleeping in their bedroom. Shot his wife dead in front of witnesses and just as the police arrived, went outside and ate the gun. In his case, he was high on drugs.


68 posted on 12/01/2012 12:50:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: presently no screen name
I have been in the world a long time and spent a lot of that time observing the relationship between men and women, among those whom I was acquainted.

No matter what most people think, women can be cruel and vindictive creatures, those that think otherwise are fools.

Remember that during the Indian wars the women did the butchering after the battle. WE have an idealistic view of the man, woman relationship that does not past the history test.

69 posted on 12/01/2012 1:12:03 PM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

See #69


70 posted on 12/01/2012 1:14:54 PM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Gay State Conservative

NO you did NOT know what I was doing, or else you wouldn’t have questioned my med credentials, which, clearly, because I was being sarcastic, would be irrelevant.

NOW you’re trying to cover up with a LONG-WINDED diatribe about nothing. But that’s cool.

Also, science is NEVER science when politics get involved (global warming anyone?). NO amount of liberal “science” designed to destroy football will ever be worth shit.


71 posted on 12/01/2012 1:15:56 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Bryanw92

VERY VERY well written. See my post before this one.


72 posted on 12/01/2012 1:17:07 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
After much research on the topic I have come to the conclusion that every human has a ‘life-wish’ and a ‘death-wish’.

Gustave Fechner(1801-87) developed a theory which states that every organism strives to attain stability, i.e., an equal distribution of energy within itself, a state of internal quiescence. The behavior of living organisms is therefore, essentially an attempt to reduce tension.

Freud called this the Nirvana principle, where the final goal is the complete extinction of desire. Then Freud goes one step further and claims that all desire seeks its own extinction.

Marcuse follow Freud in postulating two basic instincts that govern the behavior of all living organisms, the life instinct and the death instinct.The death instinct is innate. It is the drive toward the destruction of life and toward self-destruction.And the source of the drive is an escape from tension which is disturbing the state of quiescence.

73 posted on 12/01/2012 1:31:04 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: presently no screen name
What does killing the mother of his child have to do with any ailment 'you' put forth as his defense?

First of all I'm not "defending" him.If you read my posts you'll see that I've put forth everything from "scumbag" to brain injury/disease...and one or two things in between...as possible *explanations*,not defenses.And as for him being "somewhat healthy" it's possible that his heart,lungs,muscles and spine were healthy but his *brain* was not.

And you are correct to observe that people have an inborn instinct to live,that "instinct" residing in the brain.But remember,the heart has an inborn "instinct" to beat in a particular manner.But as you very probably know it doesn't always do so.I,for example,know it from personal experience.

74 posted on 12/01/2012 1:35:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
Also, science is NEVER science when politics get involved (global warming anyone?).

Many brain diseases/abnormalities can be convincingly be shown by looking a microscope slides,global warming cannot.It's foolish to compare the two for any reason.

NO amount of liberal “science” designed to destroy football will ever be worth shit.

Is there *anything* taught at *any* medical school,here or abroad,that you accept as fact...that you accept as having been proven scientifically? Have you ever taken an aspirin or had an X-Ray?

75 posted on 12/01/2012 1:42:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Don’t worry the NFL won’t have to move the game because the Chiefs haven’t shown up all season.


76 posted on 12/01/2012 1:49:18 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Gay State Conservative

NO amount of liberal “science” that targets ANYTHING liberals do not like will EVER be worth shit.


77 posted on 12/01/2012 1:49:38 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Husker24
Im sure the guy killed himself because he didn’t want to spend life in prison.

I think that it was to turn everyone he knew.

78 posted on 12/01/2012 1:51:44 PM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You still didn’t answer the question - what does it have to do with killing the mother of his child?

Why not his own mother if his brain is damaged which you seem to be so fixated on w/o a shred of evidence?


79 posted on 12/01/2012 1:52:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Things sure turned crazy quickly in this case. Tragic.


80 posted on 12/01/2012 1:52:52 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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