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The Real Root of Atheists' Anti-Christmas Rage
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 12/02/2012 3:18:49 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

When you believe in nothing you hate those with strong beliefs. Liberals and atheists have much in common.


21 posted on 12/02/2012 5:49:24 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kaslin
... when He was a wee little baby ...

It would be good to keep this Scripturally factual. Herod sought to slay all male children under 2 years old, after he learned of His existence after the arrival of the wise men from Padan-Aram, about 2 years after His birth.

22 posted on 12/02/2012 6:10:51 AM PST by imardmd1 (... let such as love their salvation say continually, "The LORD be magnified!" (Ps. 40:16b))
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To: Kaslin
No ... the real reason they hate Christmas and anything Christian is that OUR rights come from God and not Gov’t.

They pray at the alter of Gov’t. And rights granted by Gov’t can be rescinded (especially the 1st & 2nd Amendments).

That is why they hate religion and especially Christians, nothing more complicated than that.

If you remove religion, you remove the Bill of Rights and replace it with what the Gov’t deems appropriate.

23 posted on 12/02/2012 6:26:55 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: nathanbedford
I’ve also started coming to the conclusion that political differences are not fundamentally political differences—i.e., socialism versus free markets. They are basically atheist-versus-believer differences.

A pastor of mine used to say, "A man's morality will dictate his theology".

The same is true for his politics.

24 posted on 12/02/2012 6:31:05 AM PST by Gritty (I enjoy living in the 3rd World. Soon Americans will be able to do so from the comfort of home-FReed)
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To: New Jersey Realist
He says he is a typical athiest and the guys who go around like crusaders are a small minority.

I agree with your friend, and I like to think that I am the same sort of atheist.

I also think that in most churches and synagogues there are a number of silent atheists, people who go along to get along but in their heart of hearts just don't believe.

This guy truly believes that a man has a right to believe in whatever they want.

As indeed he does, and we all as well.

25 posted on 12/02/2012 6:50:56 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: firebrand
I'm pro-America, pro-life, and pro-liberty and I've been an atheist all my days.

And you are welcome to believe as you choose. I'll never insult your faith and never have.

I don't have a problem with a nativity scene on the courthouse lawn, either. In Jefferson's great phrase, "It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg".

But when anyone says I can't be a conservative because I am not a Christian, that ticks me off big time and I will respond, sometimes (despite my best efforts) in anger.

26 posted on 12/02/2012 6:59:52 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
He says he is a typical athiest and the guys who go around like crusaders are a small minority.

He is. Those types are about as representative of us as Westboro is of you. Most of us you'd never know unless you bring it up first.

27 posted on 12/02/2012 7:04:20 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: Notary Sojac

Same here.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 7:06:30 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: firebrand

You are absolutely correct. It all boils down to world-view.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 7:09:15 AM PST by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Notary Sojac
I'm pro-America, pro-life, and pro-liberty and I've been an atheist all my days.

It is shocking to the majority here but, yes, you can be a liberty loving atheist. Far too many atheists are statist turds, but far too many Christians are too.

30 posted on 12/02/2012 7:21:38 AM PST by RugerMini14
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To: RugerMini14
Far too many atheists are statist turds, but far too many Christians are too.

I've had many, many occasions to observe that some Christian Freepers are far, far more upset by the small number of atheist conservatives who are out there than they are by the millions of Christians who voted for Obama.

31 posted on 12/02/2012 7:27:48 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I’ve seen that too. Huge swaths of Catholics and almost all black Christians are liberal. But conservative atheists bother them more (well, some of them.)


32 posted on 12/02/2012 7:30:38 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: Kaslin

The root? Could it beee... SATAN?


33 posted on 12/02/2012 7:31:36 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kaslin

Then call me goofy, too. I appreciate the Lord God coming into the world for us, to us. Thank you, God.


34 posted on 12/02/2012 7:32:20 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Kaslin
Why do some atheists embarrass themselves year after year trying to eradicate Christmas from American culture?

Because some atheists are jerks, just as some Christians are jerks, just as some Hindus...etc.

Christmas, if you really get down to the brass tacks of it, isn’t about reindeer, elves,

It is to some. It isn't to others. To each their own. While I'm an atheist myself, I've always enjoyed Christmas. Granted, I only celebrate the secular aspects of it (gift-giving, watching Rankin-Bass tv specials, lights, and so on).

35 posted on 12/02/2012 7:45:04 AM PST by Jack Chance
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To: A_perfect_lady

I certainly see atheism as far more in tune ideologically with small-government libertarianism than Catholicism can claim to be.

I’m more dubious of Catholics who claim to be conservatives than atheists.

*cough* Michael Pfleger *cough*


36 posted on 12/02/2012 7:45:38 AM PST by RugerMini14
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To: RugerMini14

I do too. I mean, in a sense, Christianity is like a spiritual socialism. Instead of the rich man’s taxes paying for the poor man’s social services, it’s the spiritually rich man’s death that pays for the spiritually poor man’s sins. A really “conservative” religion would posit that you’ll burn in hell until your sins are paid for, and then when you deserve to go to heaven, you do. Pay your own way, you know? But... whatever. Humans are inconsistent creatures, by and large.


37 posted on 12/02/2012 8:31:19 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: RugerMini14
I found this book:
The Theme is Freedom:
Religion, Politics, and the American Tradition
by M. Stanton Evans
to be highly informative. It cites voluminous evidence in support of the proposition that John Locke, who anticipated the Declaration of Independence, in fact had much written Catholic thought to draw support from. Very interesting and impressive.
At the same time, the Catholic Church has plenty of history as an established religion used to a cozy relationship with the state.
But in reality socialism is a self-centered religion which promotes conceit and is a direct attack on, of all things, charity. Socialism claims to be charity, but it is a strange sort of “love” which puffs itself up and has the effect of denigrating the efforts which it does not control.

38 posted on 12/02/2012 9:13:01 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: nathanbedford

Nice post, Nathan.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 10:35:48 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Notary Sojac

I wasn’t saying that. The Tea Party is working this out right now, trying to determine whether social conservatism should be part of their platform. That doesn’t mean everyone in the Tea Party has to be a social conservative or not, depending on what the Tea Party decides.

The Republican platform is pro-life yet we have many members of the party who are not.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 10:42:40 AM PST by firebrand
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