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The Marxist Plan to Bankrupt the United States: Is History Repeating Itself?
Original research into FBI archives | 12/10/2012 | FReeper Fedora

Posted on 12/10/2012 9:15:43 PM PST by Fedora

In light of current events, I thought it would be relevant to post an obscure but important bit of information about a Marxist plan to bankrupt America which I found back in 2005 when I was researching the VVAW.

The information comes from the "8/25/1972 FBI Information Digest Special Report on VVAW" (FBI file HQ 100-448092, Section 32, PDF pp. 31-45). The report was prepared while the government was preparing its case against Scott Camil and other VVAW defendants in the Gainesville Eight trial, initiated after the US intelligence community became aware that Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) was conspiring with other antiwar groups and elements of Democratic Presidential candidate George McGovern’s campaign to violently disrupt the Republican National Convention that August. The document summarized information the FBI had collected on VVAW involvement in Communist activity, espionage, and sabotage.

One part of the report mentioned the VVAW's sending of delegates to the World Assembly for Peace, aka World Assembly for the Peace and Independence of the Peoples of Indochina. This was an international antiwar assembly held in Versailles, France from February 11-13, 1972. It was sponsored by the World Peace Council (WPC), the Soviets’ main international antiwar front, along with the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam (aka World Conference on Vietnam), a similar KGB front. The assembly was attended by over 1200 delegates from 84 countries, including delegates from North Vietnam. The VVAW was one of the US organizations that sent a delegation.

The document included a list of other US organizations attending, among which was a group called the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). In researching the background of this group, I discovered they were pursuing a plan to abuse the welfare system to bankrupt the economies of major U.S. cities. Here is the summary of the NWRO's background I compiled during my research:

National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO): CP-supported welfare rights group founded in 1967 aligned with the antiwar movement. NWRO was based on applying the theories of Columbia University’s Marxist sociologist couple Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, who drew inspiration from CP-linked organizer Saul Alinsky (see entry for “United Farmworkers Organizing Committee”) and the 1965 Watts riots in Los Angeles. In November 1965 Cloward and Piven advanced a plan to deliberately overload the welfare systems of New York and other major cities with more recipients than they could afford and thereby cause an economic crisis to force a socialist political revolution on the national level and federalize the governmental Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) welfare program. Seeking an organizer to implement their plan, Cloward and Piven recruited as Executive Director of NWRO George Wiley, a former member of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) who had become disillusioned with more conventional approaches to civil rights and had founded a more militant civil rights and welfare rights group, the Poverty Rights Action Center (PRAC), in 1964. Assisting Wiley as Chair of NWRO was Johnnie Tillmon, a single black mother with six children who had formed a welfare rights group called Aid to Needy Children-Mothers Anonymous (ANC-Mothers Anonymous) in Watts in 1963 and had subsequently been elected to the LA County Welfare Rights Organization (CWRO). Under Wiley and Tillmon’s leadership, NWRO drew 90% of its membership from black mothers receiving AFDC welfare, and accordingly it tended to form united front joining the welfare movement, the civil rights movement, and the feminist movement, and after 1969, the antiwar movement as well. In New York City the NWRO received political support from Welfare Commissioner Mitchell Ginsberg, who doubled the number of welfare recipients on the city payroll between 1967 and 1973, which would bankrupt the city by 1975. Following an internal conflict between Wiley and a faction of the NWRO aligned with former Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee leader John Lewis, Wiley began replacing NWRO leadership with all black males, and appointed former CORE activist James Farmer as NWRO Associate Director. In September 1970 Farmer and Southern Christian Leadership Conference leader James Bevel led a coalition of black civil rights groups called the Family of Man on a march to the Black Panther Party-organized Revolutionary People’s Constitutional Convention (RPCC) in Philadelphia. Through arrangements made by black VVAW leader Al Hubbard, Farmer’s Family of Man marchers joined marchers from the VVAW’s Operation RAW rally in nearby Valley Forge, where Bevel spoke. Both an NWRO delegation and VVAW leader Al Hubbard travelled to Versailles, France in February 1972 to attend the World Assembly for the Peace and Independence of the Peoples of Indochina, sponsored by the Soviet fronts the World Peace Council and the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam. In 1973 CP members in the NWRO clashed with fascist Lyndon LaRouche, who tried to form a similar group under his own control, the National Unemployed and Welfare Rights Organization (NUWRO), by sending thugs to physically disrupt NWRO meetings and attack CP members there.

Is there a continuity between the plot mentioned here and current economic problems? I cannot confirm that without additional research (and let me add that even if this is the case, I am not proposing this as a complete explanation of the current economic crisis by any stretch), but in light of Alinsky's influence on the current generation of politicians, it is a line of research worth pursuing.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; alinksy; democrats; fiscalcliff; nwro; obama; socialistdemocrats; vanity
I post this hoping others can supply additional information to connect some dots.
1 posted on 12/10/2012 9:16:22 PM PST by Fedora
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To: piasa; STARWISE; SunkenCiv; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ping.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 9:20:16 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Darksheare

Ping.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 9:26:44 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
GEORGE ALVIN WILEY

Discover the Networks - A Guide to the Political Left

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

4 posted on 12/10/2012 9:33:17 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Good post—that ACORN link ties a lot together.


5 posted on 12/10/2012 9:35:41 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Why weren’t Cloward and Piven arrested?


6 posted on 12/10/2012 9:37:47 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I don’t know, my guess is they got away with a lot because of their academic connections. I think Piven wanted to get arrested for publicity—she signed a petition refusing to pay taxes over the Vietnam War in 1968, and she participated in a post-settlement strike at Boston University that almost got her dismissed along with Howard Zinn, who was one of the CP’s key academic contacts during that period and was her colleague. Zinn had some pretty high-powered legal connections to the same lawyers defending the antiwar protestors, I would think Piven would have turned to those resources in event of an arrest.


7 posted on 12/10/2012 9:48:47 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
“CP-linked organizer Saul Alinsky (see entry for “United Farmworkers Organizing Committee”) and the 1965 Watts riots in Los Angeles. “

From personal knowledge, the watts riots were started by a protection gang,.

The buildings were premarked for those that paid and not to be burned and vandalized and those that wouldn't pay that were to be burned and vandalized (files and records destroyed).

After they were started it got out of hand and the black gangs started hitting all the businesses.

One building I rebuilt wasn't supposed to be hit and the owner was screaming his head off, “I paid, I paid I wasn't supposed to be harmed.

He showed me on the wall of the alley where his building was marked to be not hit and 2 other ones on the same block that had been marked and destroyed,.

8 posted on 12/10/2012 10:04:01 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Fedora

SOURCE

9 posted on 12/10/2012 10:05:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you, very useful diagram! A piece I’d like to add to the NWRO/ACORN link outlined there is any link between NWRO and individuals or groups who have influenced the economic policies that complement ACORN’s political activism, either at the federal level or at the state/local level (e.g. NYC or Chicago).


10 posted on 12/10/2012 10:11:15 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Is history repeating itself?

Of course.

Just check Russia, ca. 1918.


11 posted on 12/10/2012 10:12:59 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Fedora

Just because Communism failed in central Europe, it does not mean that it has ended...It has moved to the USA.

Back in the late 50s, when I was still a kid, I remember a program that came to Memphis.
It was called “None Dare Call it Treason”.
It was a rally held in the downtown auditorium to educate
Americans about Communism and how it was out to capture America.

While living in Slovakia, a few years ago, I remember the photos of Russian tanks rolling in.


12 posted on 12/10/2012 10:13:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: smoothsailing
SS, nice chart.

Shouldn't, John Boehner should be included,however?

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13 posted on 12/10/2012 10:13:40 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Fedora

Wiley and Gloria Steinem were a “thing” for a while when she was in her revolutionary mode. She should have taught George how to swim.

Actually, I think Wiley was a much bigger player in the welfare scam operation, or would have been, if he hadn’t of died. Something about his rise (he was charismatic and impressive looking/sounding) just doesn’t set right with me.

His ties to the Communist Party/fronts smells of a convergence movement of black extremism/nationalism with the CPUSA’s old “southern strategy” of creating a black nation within a nation, a strategy also adopted by the marxist/violent Republic of New Africa.

Who better to have “front” for the Party than Wiley. Stokely Carmichael was off on his marxist trip (to Cuba, Guinea, Ghana, etc., H.R. Brown was going to jail or already there, Bob Brown was still an unknown in Stokely’s All-African Revolutionary Party to be, and Huey Newton was in deep doo-doo. Bobby Seal, for the most part, became a non-factor after the Chicago 7 trial and other Black Panther Party leaders were dead, in jail, or on the run.

Only Wiley had a relatively “clean” personna.

Guess we will never know unless some classified or hidden away records tell us more.

However, the NWRO was taken over by several CPUSA members or sympathizers including Beulah Sanders (I believe she later was exposed as a CPUSA member), and one other woman in Milwaukee who was a CPer. They remained leading members of the CPUSA “Vietnam/peace fronts” such as New Mobe, SAC, PCPJ and then possibly in the later Mobilization for Survival anti-defense lobby. However, by then, they had lost most of their influence on the Left.

By the way, the NWRO tactics are those of Saul Alinsky (who I had heard speak and then met), as well as those of Jesse Jackson Jr (SCLC/Op. Breadbasket, Op. Push, Rainbow Coalition, along with his chief strategist, CPUSA covert leader in the South, Jack O’Dell), and Al Sharpton, who began his radical career at the age of 16 at an Angela Davis Defense Committee rally in New York (information on all of them at www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org” and “www.keywiki.org”, for starters).

Just thinking about this brings back the memory that “black extremism” in the “white radical movement” actually started on a national scale at the 1968 “National Conference for New Politics” conference where the CPUSA-aided and guided “black power” people took over the conference from white marxists and liberals. Marty Peretz (aka Marty the Putz), then editor of New Republic, later remarked that since the communists had taken over the conference, “let them pay for it.”

The poor boy still hasn’t learned to this day that the reds have sued him like a piece of toilet paper, only to disgard him when they were through.

Alice Widener wrote a great monograph-type publication about the NCNP for “USA” magazine. It exposed the “who’s who” and “who’s in control of the conference. Lots of Cloward/Piven and Michael Harrington “Democratic Socialists” were there, slowly working to take over the movement.

Perhaps this was the first known convergence of the black extremists and the white marxists. Then the Hayden/BPP convention in Oakland? about 1968/69. Then the NWRO and National Mobe/New Mobe, 1969-70.

Beginning to make some sense, timewise. Fedora. Do your thing.


14 posted on 12/10/2012 10:17:47 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fedora

Wiley and Gloria Steinem were a “thing” for a while when she was in her revolutionary mode. She should have taught George how to swim.

Actually, I think Wiley was a much bigger player in the welfare scam operation, or would have been, if he hadn’t of died. Something about his arise (he was charismatic and impressive looking/sounding) ust doesn’t set right with me.

His ties to the Communist Party/fronts smells of a convergence movement of black extremism/nationalism with the CPUSA’s old “southern strategy” of creating a black nation within a nation, a strategy also adopted by the marxist/violent Republic of New Africa.

Who better to have “front” for the Party than Wiley. Stokely Carmichael was off on his marxist trip (to Cuba, Guinea, Ghana, etc., H.R. Brown was going to jail or already there, Bob Brown was still an unknown in Stokely’s All-African Revolutionary Party to be, and Huey Newton was in deep doo-doo. Bobby Seal, for the most part, became a non-factor after the Chicago 7 trial and other Black Panther Party leaders were dead, in jail, or on the run.

Only Wiley had a relatively “clean” personna.

Guess we will never know unless some classified or hidden away records tell us more.

However, the NWRO was taken over by several CPUSA members or sympathizers including Beulah Sanders (I believe she later was exposed as a CPUSA member), and one other woman in Milwaukee who was a CPer. They remained leading members of the CPUSA “Vietnam/peace fronts” such as New Mobe, SAC, PCPJ and then possibly in the later Mobilization for Survival anti-defense lobby. However, by then, they had lost most of their influence on the Left.

By the way, the NWRO tactics are those of Saul Alinsky (who I had heard speak and then met), as well as those of Jesse Jackson Jr (SCLC/Op. Breadbasket, Op. Push, Rainbow Coalition, along with his chief strategist, CPUSA cover leader in the South, Jack O’Dell), and Al Sharpton, who began his radical career at the age of 16 at an Angela Davis Defense Committee rally in New York (information on all of them at www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org” and “www.keywiki.org”, for starters).

Just thinking about this brings back the memory that “black extremism” in the “white radical movement” actually started on a national scale at the 1968 “National Conference for New Politics” conference where the CPUSA-aided and guided “black power” people took over the conference from white marxists and liberals. Marty Peretz (aka Marty the Putz), then editor of New Republic, later remarked that since the communists had taken over the conference, “let them pay for it.”

The poor boy still hasn’t learned to this day that the reds have sued him like a piece of toilet paper, only to disgard him when they were through.

Alice Widener wrote a great monograph-type publication about the NCNP for “USA” magazine. It exposed the “who’s who” and “who’s in control of the conference. Lots of Cloward/Piven and Michael Harrington “Democratic Socialists” were there, slowing working to take over the movement.

Perhaps this was the first known convergence of the black extremists and the white marxists. Then the Hayden/BPP convention in Oakland? about 1968/69. Then the NWRO and National Mobe/New Mobe, 1969-70.

Beginning to make some sense, timewise. Fedora. Do your thing.


15 posted on 12/10/2012 10:20:22 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fedora; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; dragonblustar; ...

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Ping to Article, and # 1 through # 14.

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16 posted on 12/10/2012 10:44:56 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Jack Hammer

Oh my! The Russian revolution has been on my mind all evening and I had not looked at FR until now.

The parallels of decay, unrest and confusion appear significant. I wrote my other post here before seeing yours.


17 posted on 12/10/2012 10:53:33 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Jack Hammer

My other laboriously written post here was lost somehow


18 posted on 12/10/2012 10:58:55 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Fedora

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19 posted on 12/10/2012 11:49:37 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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To: Fedora

The country’s already bankrupt. Obama’s just waiting for his moment to spike the football.


20 posted on 12/11/2012 12:27:29 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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bflr


21 posted on 12/11/2012 1:44:45 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Fedora

The only good Marxist is a dead Marxist.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 2:04:29 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: dalereed

Thanks for sharing the personal experience. I vaguely recall coming across a Congressional or California Congressional investigation into the roots of the Watts riots that had some information identifying some of the forces behind it. I’d need to refresh my memory on the details but off the top of my head, I came across it while researching the history of the Los Angeles CP and what became the nucleus of the LA branch of the BPP there a few years later.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 2:41:26 AM PST by Fedora
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To: AlexW

Yes, the Soviet Union ended, but Marxism was older than the USSR and it survived by shifting its base of operations and tactics, using springboards like the former East Germany, Cuba and Latin American Marxist groups, and left-wing groups and political factions in France and the US, notably the DSA lobby within the Democratic Party. A conservative friend from France who had moved here once told me that the only difference between the platform of the French Socialist Party and the American Democrats he could detect was that the Democrats didn’t call themselves Socialists.


24 posted on 12/11/2012 2:53:13 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora; LucyT

I wonder if anyone notices or cares that Social Security receipts have declined the last 3 years.

From the WH’s own data:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/

Table 2.1

Actual s for total SS receipts
2008 - 900,155
2009 - 890,917
2010 - 864,814
2011 - 818,792

This is not due to the 2% reduction either. Congress injects (borrowed) funds in to offset that.

So? We have been in a recession - right?

The alarming part of this is that NEVER in the history of Social Security was there EVER a downturn in receipts. Even in the worst previous recessions. And certainly nothing anywhere near close to a 3 year running trend.

This metric alone tells us how fast the tables are turning.

And look at the projections for the next 3 years.

2012 - 840,650
2013 - 959,057
2014 - 1,038,701

There has not been 10% YTY growth since the late 1980s. The estimate for 2012 is probably overly rosy. But 2013 is pure fantasy.

The point of this being using the tables at the link above it easy to see the bankruptcy happening right before our eyes.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 3:01:46 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Thanks for the perspective helping to put some of this in historical context. I have been able to trace the roots of the black/white extremist convergence back to Germany’s sabotage network during the World Wars, which the Soviets effectively inherited through Lenin and Trotsky’s network and its successors. Basically, the Germans would recruit any subsversive group that could hamper the US, including black nationalist groups during the pre-WWII and WWII period. From there the convergence becomes more pronounced during the 1960s period where you pick up, and your analysis sounds on-track to me.

When you mention Jack O’Dell, I’ll add Stanley Levison as an important figure in that development connecting Soviet operatives to the American network. Castro’s Cuba also had its hand in the mix early, even before the BPP was created they were organizing similar sabotage groups in the US in the 1962-1963 period as I recall. Subsequently various Stalinist vs. Trots vs. Maoist rivalries created a bunch of different factions that get a little convoluted to sum up, but the bottom line is that these types of groups proliferated over the late 60s into the early 70s, steering the civil rights movement increasingly from protest to confrontational tactics until you had full-blown terrorist groups like the SLA. The NWRO was a part of this development, forming a bridge between the early 60s civil rights groups and the more extreme groups of the late 60s and early 70s.

Finally, speaking of Jesse Jackson, I believe there is a lot of important data there that went under the radar because of how badly he and Walter Mondale got crushed in the 1984 campaign, and my feeling is a close review of the ‘84 campaign might be productive. Some of the far-left forces in the Jackson campaign attached themselves to Mondale to resurface under Clinton, a similar dynamic to what happened in 2004 with the fringe elements brought in by Kucinich, Kerry, etc. paving the way for Obama.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 3:14:19 AM PST by Fedora
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT!


27 posted on 12/11/2012 3:14:52 AM PST by Fedora
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To: bluecat6

At some point the math is going to catch up with their ability to cover their tracks, and then it is going to get much uglier than it is now.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 3:17:25 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

bflr


29 posted on 12/11/2012 4:07:49 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Fedora; Egon; Orgiveme

Ping for further study


30 posted on 12/11/2012 5:00:17 AM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: smoothsailing; Fedora


31 posted on 12/11/2012 5:05:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fedora

32 posted on 12/11/2012 5:10:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fedora

Connecting some dots.
John Kerry -vvaw.
Works with/for Obama.
One degree of sep there.

Yes, history is repeating itself.


33 posted on 12/11/2012 5:43:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Fedora
To defeat Alinsky tactics, you must use Alinsky tactics. Same as if you are in a street fight. You can't win by the Queensbury rules if the other guy is free to cheat.

So I say, give them both barrels in the black propaganda dept.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 5:50:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AlexW

Check Amazon books— “None Dare Call it Treason- John Stormer. Also, “None Dare Call It Treason-25 years Later”- John Stormer. Everyone should read these books to see the “progress” the commies have made


35 posted on 12/11/2012 6:38:48 AM PST by capt B
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To: Fedora

Cloward-Piven.


36 posted on 12/11/2012 7:00:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Fedora

It worked in the Soviet Union, as other former once great empires around the world.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 8:06:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Fedora

You are probably right.


38 posted on 12/11/2012 9:29:38 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Fedora

Maybe we should connect the dots to rapacious banking practices and commodity swindles. You are not going to tell me that “marxists” created the debt instrument that miraculously got rated AAA then insured and sold around the world in an idiot scheme to “lessen exposure” by the blinkered expedient of assuming that risk spread out among more clients equated to a lessening of risk in toto. That just gave us a global collapse rather than a local collapse.

Let’s get some adequate target acquisition here. Those grasping, short sighted, dollar junkies were anything but “marxist”. They were capito-monopolist sociopaths in need of personal “regulation” by real Americans.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 10:17:15 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: aflaak

ping


40 posted on 12/11/2012 11:53:35 AM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: Darksheare

Darksheare, no fair making it look easy :-)


41 posted on 12/11/2012 12:37:29 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Hence my note at the end of the piece, “and let me add that even if this is the case, I am not proposing this as a complete explanation of the current economic crisis by any stretch”. But the corporate crooks and Marxists have often traveled together out of mutual interests. The Communist movement has long relied on corporate funding via “philanthropies”, and has also found it useful to learn capitalist practices for financial warfare purposes (for instance, the KGB trained a group of agents in the tactics used by Marc Rich); while from the corporate perspective, Marxism can be a tool to consolidate power, take out the competition, and divert “appropriated” resources.


42 posted on 12/11/2012 12:52:57 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

LOL, I know.


43 posted on 12/11/2012 1:22:16 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Travis McGee

Right on. Dig it.


44 posted on 12/11/2012 6:42:19 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Fedora

Obama’s Communist Method File.


45 posted on 12/11/2012 6:42:51 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Fedora

Ping


46 posted on 12/11/2012 10:47:58 PM PST by free-n-TX
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To: Fedora

Ping


47 posted on 12/11/2012 10:48:16 PM PST by free-n-TX
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To: Fedora

Ping


48 posted on 12/11/2012 10:48:17 PM PST by free-n-TX
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