Posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Conservative firebrand Glenn Beck has joined a growing chorus of Republican commentators in defending gay marriage, laying out a strong case for ending government opposition to letting same-sex couples wed.
"Let me take the pro-gay marriage people and the religious people — I believe that there is a connecting dot there that nobody is looking at, and that's the Constitution," Beck said during a recent segment of his online talk show. "The question is not whether gay people should be married or not. The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?"
While Beck's defense of gay marriage may seem surprising, given his far-right political views and audience, it is actually not new. Earlier this year, Beck said that he has the "same opinion on gay marriage as President Barack Obama" and does not see same-sex unions as a "threat to America."
Still, Beck's public renewal of his support for gay marriage comes at a politically significant moment for the GOP, which is working to reshape its message to appeal to a changing electorate. A Gallup survey released last week found that 53 percent of Americans are in favor of legalizing gay marriage, a number that has been steadily growing for the past decade.
Moreover, by couching his support for gay marriage in a libertarian framework, Beck makes the case for the right to look past differences on social issues in order to broaden their coalition to include all limited government conservatives.
"What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution, is to start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."
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What reality?
If religion defines marriage then there is no definition, because there is no defined religion.
Excellent. As long as you know, the difference between you and a liberal is only in what kind of gigantic govt.
Really? The natural rights of life and liberty are UNALIENABLE.
"Unalienable: incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred."
You can not surrender, sell or transfer unalienable rights, they are a gift from the CREATOR to the individual and can not under any circumstances be surrendered or taken. All individual's have unalienable rights.
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Beck is very confused in this. Just as he was very confused in his effective endorsement of Martin Luther King, a couple of years ago. King stood for the exact opposite of the socio/economic values that Beck ordinarily supports.
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God defines all non-empirical reality - apart from God there is no such thing. And God has defined marriage as the union between a man and a woman. That is an unalterable fact, regardless of what some "religion" may say.
Good for them.
Excerpt:
Open letter to conservatives who back same-sex marriage
Exclusive: David Kupelian on unintended consequences of pretending homosexuality is normal
09/06/2010
If America’s unique magic was combining, as Tocqueville said, “the notions of Christianity and of liberty” to produce the greatest nation in history, today’s libertarian-conservatives seem to have lost sight of half of that winning combination – the God part – vainly imagining that freedom alone is the answer.
Yet the libertarian utopia – live any way you want, even if it includes being a drug addict, having abortions, frequenting prostitutes (all of which libertarians want legalized), so long as it “doesn’t hurt other people,” and yet somehow we can still manage to be citizen-sovereigns ruling over a small, responsible government – is every bit as fatuous and illusory as the utopia that socialists forever dream of. Neither has ever existed, nor ever will. For as we all know deep down, there is no lasting freedom without adherence to, as Jefferson put it, “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” Or as William Penn warned, “If man is not governed by God, he will be ruled by tyrants.” Thus, in today’s grand morphing of Reagan conservatism into libertarianism, we simply kid ourselves into thinking an immoral society can be free.
http://www.wnd.com/2010/09/199197/
Beck not only jumped the shark, he rode it, then got devourced. Seems a lot of Mormons are fine with perversion.
Like Harry Reid, mormons will choose church over country every time. That includes when they are told to turn in their weapons, and to spy on those who don't.
Newsflash: the base isn't going to follow you to Sodom. Wise up or be washed up.
And the great thing for lawyers with regard to "gay marriage" will be the number of job opportunities in "gay divorce"!
Beck portrays himself as being a God fearing Christian. He espouses the need for all to return to Judeo-Christian principles as prescribed in the Bible. His support for gay marriage clearly exposes him as a Christian fraud. Calling Rick Warren!
How do you do that? Our laws governing pensions, survivor benefits, etc. depend on a definition of marriage and recording it. 20% of the population are atheists.
We have religions like Islam that permit up to four wives. How should they be treated?
The government has been involved with marriage since the inception of the Republic. We have laws against incest, polygamy, marrying children, etc. Should those laws be eliminated and leave it up to individuals to decide?
OK, let’s really expand our horizons. Let’s say anything goes and just once and for all do away with all those messy, moral strictures that have encumbered us for the past few millenia. Welcome everybody in no matter what they do, or who they do it to. Then we’ll have the super-duper ultimate big tent to end all big tents.
I’ve never understood the appeal of all this gay crap. I watched a slideshow of same-sex “marriages” in Washington after it became legal, and it was all I could do to refrain from throwing up.
I need to correct you on an important point.
This also applies to the 1978 change accepting blacks.
Mormons and the media give the impression that these were policy changes, or administrative, or management changes, but they weren't.
Remember that it was GOD WHO CHANGED HIS POLICY regarding polygamy and blacks, and then instructed the Prophet.
Mitt Romney's Holy Prophet for instance, in 1978 was told that he (GOD) had changed his mind on blacks.
At some point, Beck and Romney will be the GOD of their own planet, and they will be making these decisions for that planet's holy prophet.
One of their bishops already, personally, married same sex couples years ago. They already permit and condone what is an abomination to God. That is what cults do.
If enough people did this, it wouldn't matter what the Gay's out in San Fransisco did.
Nope. That Brass Ring of Government Power is out there. They just gotta make a grab for it rather than just LIVE YOUR PRINCIPLES.
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