Posted on 12/19/2012 7:42:27 PM PST by neverdem
“i can’t wait for the toxicology report.”
You will never see it, he was a good boy just turning his life around/S
These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances.. Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone, the symptoms continue and violence results.
It’s like saying because a large percentage of people who have heart attacks were also taking blood pressure medicines, the blood pressure medicines caused the heart attack.
As meticulous as Lanza was about destroying as much of his past as possible it is possible he got rid of all proof of drugs in the house, destroyed his computer, then went on his killing spree.
The mainstream news media has so badly jumped the shark recently (e.g. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, wildly varying “facts” on the Sandy Hook murders) that anything it says at this point simply has no credibility. If they say it, it may be true, but it has just as much likelihood of being false.
More gossip. Where is a doctor’s report who prescribed the meds?
I’ve always wondered which came first, the crazy that caused the drugs to be prescribed, or the crazy after they were prescribed?
These meds are handed out at the drop of a hat to many people who aren't suicidal or homicidal.
More gossip. Where is a doctor’s report who prescribed the meds?
Gotta keep all that hush hush to keep up the gun control momentum.
Lanza far beyond violent. He was a premeditated mass killer.
“It’s like saying because a large percentage of people who have heart attacks were also taking blood pressure medicines, the blood pressure medicines caused the heart attack.”
One difference...people were dying due too high blood pressure long before there were meds. People were NOT shooting into crowds, in near the present frequency, prior to us thinking that we could treat them, rather than simply locking them up.
What do you think, that I'm some gullible fool? I'm a family practice doc with an interest in adverse drug reactions. Asperger's patients are not at increased risk for violence. Any patient taking these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, SSRI, meds are. If you read the list of murders and suicides, one guy complained of insomnia. The idiot doc made a presumptive diagnosis of depression, even though SSRIs can cause insomnia.
Ritalin is methylphenidate. It works like amphetamine.
“Institute for Safe Medication Practices”
Sounds like one of the following groups behind this:
1.Church of Scientology
2.Trial Lawyers
or
3. Holistic Medicine Manufacturer or Sales
Actually, shootings are on the decline.
My guess is that he was on antidepressants, and quit taking them. Being a good satanist, he was probably self medicating with other goodies.
If they “don’t work that well in everyone,” then they shouldn’t be prescribed without supervision by the pshrink of the results.
Too many of these prescriptions are handed out like tic-tacs.
And combat vets are given these meds...and veteran and military suicides are a huge issue. Husband was wounded, brain injury, and he swears these meds made him think things that he wouldn’t have normally. He won’t take them at all now. VA docs push them heavily to him though.
First off, Ritalin is not an antidepressant.
Secondly, it’s no surprise that people who are prescribed antidepressants kill themselves and at times others.
As a Family doc, what question do you ask of every patient that has a complaint of depression? It should be, “are you having thoughts of harming yourself or others?” WHY? Because people with depression often have suicidal/homocidal ideations. Right?
So, you prescribe the meds and roughly 3 things can happen. One, they take it and get better. Two, they take it and it’s not effective and you try another med. Or, three, and most likely, they take it for a short time and for various reasons become noncompliant with it followed by a return of the suicidal/homocidal ideations.
Both the Left who want to ban guns and the Right who want to blame meds are both wrong. Knee jerk reactions are dangerous secondary to their unintended consequences.
There are 330 MILLION people in this country. 330 MILLION! How often does this happen? Despite how God awful it is, it’s a low frequency event that will induce a great deal of ineffective action by the government, but to little avail because it’s relatively rare. There have been 61 mass shootings in the US since 1982. How many hundreds of millions of people have lived in this country over that period of time?
I've found the ramp-up period with SSRIs to be problematic myself (not to mention my family). The mood changes themselves can be "violent". In fact, any titration causes problems. I would not dream of stopping one abruptly. Bad enough when tapering off over a ridiculously long period of time. Have even had visual disturbances. Now on SAM-e, which has so far not caused any problems during start, stop or dosage change, and has worked with equivalent effectiveness. I recommend it highly although not all patients may respond (as with any drug).
“....Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone....”
As one who has worked with severely emotionally disturbed
(SED) boys (8-18 yrs old) in a residential Tx facility
for fifteen years I would say that you are spot on. Most
of the kids do quite well when they are taking their
meds, others can make you wonder just how out bad things
might be if their meds were discontinued. And, sometimes
there doesn’t seem to be much difference in their out-
ward behavior once meds have bee discontinued or changed.
Very good perception on your part.
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