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Shoot down the NRA - Outrage over the Newtown massacre has gun nuts playing defense (megahurl!)
NY Daily News ^ | December 19, 2012 | Meathead Editorial

Posted on 12/20/2012 10:04:57 AM PST by neverdem

JIM LO SCALZO/EPA

Gun control supporters march to the National Rifle Association office in Washington on Monday.

Global outrage over the Newtown massacre, including at the role played by a gun that no civilian should possess, has forced the National Rifle Association to speak publicly, instead of privately in the halls of Congress.

America’s mighty proponent of deadly weaponry here, there and everywhere, including in bars and kindergartens, announced that on Friday, “The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.”

Don’t get your hopes up.

The only “meaningful contributions” the NRA has ever made to public safety have been malignant ones — most notably, the millions of dollars by which the organization buys influence in the House, Senate and state capitals.

In the most recent election cycle, the NRA’s disbursements to candidates totaled more than $18.6 million, and its lobbying expenses in Washington ran to more than $2 million. The group got its money’s worth and wants to keep it, you can rest assured.

Barring the possibility that pigs start flying, look for the NRA to engage in evasions about everything other than guns that may have come into play in murdering 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School — everything from mental health to violent video games.

On Friday, in the immediate aftermath of the killings, the host of an NRA video news program preposterously attributed the deaths to a shortage of love, saying:

“I don’t think the issue is an issue; I don’t think the issue is parenting, or Hollywood, or guns, or rap music, or young men. . . . It is the foundational stuff . . . whether it’s a lack of love, a lack of empathy for others, an apathy.”

Lunacy like that has left the NRA in increasing isolation.

To escape disgrace, Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm whose officers include former Vice President Dan Quayle, is selling its interest in the company that makes the Bushmaster AR-15, Adam Lanza’s weapon of choice.

Dick’s Sporting Goods pulled semiautomatic rifles from its shelves in 511 stores nationwide. Walmart removed the AR-15 from its website. And the movie industry has canceled the premieres of violent films for fear of revolting audiences.

With President Obama signaling that he will back a renewal of an assault weapons ban, a bar on high-capacity ammunition magazine, the institution of more rigorous background checks for gun purchasers and closure of the so-called gun show loophole, the NRA is fighting a rearguard action for the first time in memory.

Now is the time to think even bigger, to get all that and more, in an epic battle to stop mass murders in the U.S.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 12/20/2012 10:05:02 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Louis L’Amour summed up the real issue:

“Understand one thing……You can make laws against weapons but they will be observed only by those who don’t intend to use them anyway. The lawless can always smuggle or steal, or even make a gun. By refusing to wear a gun you allow the criminal to operate with impunity.”


2 posted on 12/20/2012 10:16:14 AM PST by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: neverdem

It is 1968 all over again. I remember the signs then, NATIONAL RIFLE ASSASINATIONS! that the picketers were carrying then.


3 posted on 12/20/2012 10:18:21 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: neverdem
A friend was just at a gun store in Milford CT last evening: the place was packed and business was brisk.

Meanwhile in Newtown, law-abiding gun owners concerned for the safety of their children are preparing for local meetings on school security where they will ask that permitted teachers and parents be allowed to "carry" on campus.

4 posted on 12/20/2012 10:18:28 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: neverdem

“Now is the time to think even bigger, to get all that and more, in an epic battle to stop mass murders in the U.S.”

Their intent is clear, they are committed to taking away our un-alienable an moral right to keep and bear arms...

“How dedicated are YOU in keeping the right???”


5 posted on 12/20/2012 10:22:02 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: neverdem

I did some digging last night and found a few things. The FBI estimates that about 100 million US households have legal firearms and they also tracked about 350 deaths where a “rifle” was used. Semi-automatic rifles are some subset of that 350 number, but it is not explicitly tracked separately from bolt actions, pump actions or single shot rifles. So, the rate of “preventable deaths from semi-automatic rifles that are not needed” is no more than 0.00035%.

Then I went to the CDC stats and found that they estimate that about 8-10 million US households have swimming pools and they tracked about 3,500 drowning deaths, but they do not track specifically the subset of drownings that occurred in bath tubs, lakes, streams or swimming pools. So, the rate of “preventable deaths from swimming pools that are not needed” is no more than 0.035%.

Our government’s own numbers are showing us that swimming pools are 1,000 times more dangerous than semi-automatic rifles!

If we are willing to accept the premise that the federal government should infringe on our liberty to address unnecessary deaths, then we would see much more value in banning swimming pools! In addition, we would cause harm to much fewer individuals and we don’t even have to deal with a Constitutional issue.

Heck, we all know that swimming pools are a luxury that no family needs! We should only allow people to swim in government owned pools.

Or we could simply live with the consequences of individual liberty and understand that we can address evil doers whenever possible, but we will never be able to stop all evil.


6 posted on 12/20/2012 10:22:02 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: neverdem

NRA Membership & gun purchases are surging for fear of losing gun rights.


7 posted on 12/20/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: neverdem
The only “meaningful contributions” the NRA has ever made to public safety have been malignant ones — most notably, the millions of dollars by which the organization buys influence in the House, Senate and state capitals.

As contrasted by donations made by the NEA and SEIU, both of whom own the Democrat party outright.

The Second Amendment is NOT about the right for individuals to own and bear weapons, it is about the balance of power between an oppressive federal government and the individual freedom of the people. THAT'S why the leftists hate the Second Amendment so much - they are about power and control and the Second Amendment is the ONLY thing that stands between the freedom of the people and America becoming North Korea or Cuba!

8 posted on 12/20/2012 10:33:52 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: neverdem
I love the way they refer to the”NRA” as some two headed monster that must be stopped. The “NRA” is 150 million responsible, law abiding gun owners. It's me and a lot of people I know. Take your hysterical gibberish and cram it.
9 posted on 12/20/2012 10:44:57 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

Joe Manchin lost his desire for gun control pretty fast when his constituents voiced their opinion....I suspect that to be the case for a lot of dems. remember...nothing matters more to a pol than election....nothing!!! A lot of them found themselves unemployed the last time they voted their consciences!!!


10 posted on 12/20/2012 10:49:58 AM PST by ontap
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To: neverdem

I look at the picture and see a lot of people that should be at work and apparently have nothing better to do except protest this or that.


11 posted on 12/20/2012 10:50:32 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: CSM

What do they even mean by semi-autos that aren’t needed? Who says we don’t need them? Need them for what? Hunting? But we don’t have a right ti hunt. We have a right to self-defense, and also defense of the free republic.


12 posted on 12/20/2012 10:54:26 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: neverdem

Wow, what did they have? 60 people?
and all with preprinted signs...


13 posted on 12/20/2012 10:55:39 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem
Did Adam Lanza even use the AR-15 during the shooting or was it "still in the trunk" as early reports claimed. I doubt he shot up the classroom then dashed outside to hide the evil rifle, ran back inside and shot himself, all before police arrived. Seems rather unlikely to me.

Regards,
GtG

14 posted on 12/20/2012 11:12:07 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: tet68

It wasn’t an AR-15. But if you continue a lie long enough.....


15 posted on 12/20/2012 11:14:08 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tublecane

I actually posted that on FB to combat a friend’s wife who is void of logic. However, they have a pool that they love!


16 posted on 12/20/2012 11:24:18 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: neverdem

Couple of notes to the writer of the article:

1. The NRA is actively involved training throughout the US. It would be adavantageous for you to actually do some research on an organization you write about. It’s on the Internet too. EZ as pie.
2. Your article was so snarky that it caused me to go to www.NRA.org and join up again. See how that works?


17 posted on 12/20/2012 11:37:27 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Did Adam Lanza even use the AR-15 during the shooting or was it "still in the trunk" as early reports claimed.

Plenty of the initial reports were fiction. Dr. H. Wayne Carver was the medical examiner, IIRC. He's waiting for the results from toxicology. I just googled lanza toxicology in the news. Lanza used the Bushmaster.

18 posted on 12/20/2012 11:40:05 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Point #1, who writes this tripe?
including at the role

Point #2, who is this moron to say exactly WHAT a civilian should possess?
including at the role played by a gun that no civilian should possess

As a civlian, I demand the right to own such weaponry. It puts me on par with the average GOV agent or member of the military.

19 posted on 12/20/2012 11:40:50 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: ontap

The NRA has ended more Democrat politician careers than expense account scandals and underage bimbos combined. And I expect that to continue.


20 posted on 12/20/2012 11:40:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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