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If Every U.S. State Declared War Against the Others, Which Would Win?
Slate ^ | Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2012 | Jon Davis,

Posted on 12/29/2012 7:38:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

These are the accounts of the Second American Civil War, also known as the Wars of Reunification and the American Warring States Period.

After the breakup, many wondered which states would come out in control of the power void created by the dissolution of the United States. There were many with little chance against several of the larger more powerful states. The states in possession of a large population, predisposition for military (i.e.) military bases, and a population open to the idea of warfare fared the best. In the long term, we would look to states with self-sufficiency and long term military capabilities.

Here are the states that held the greatest strategic value from day one. They have the ability to be self-sufficient, economic strength, military strength, the will to fight, and the population to support a powerful war machine.

California Texas New York

Others that have many of the qualities that gave them an advantage are also listed.

Washington Colorado Illinois Virginia Florida Georgia

For all intents and purposes, Alaska and Hawaii ended well enough since they were so far removed from the center of the country that they never really suffer greatly nor benefit from the shattering.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


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To: Jonty30
One person. one red button.

There's just a bit more to it than that. First, there are the encrypted codes sent from the national control center. Next, there are the encrypted keys in two different safes....

We're ready for the fruitcakes. ;-D

41 posted on 12/29/2012 8:39:09 PM PST by GingisK
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To: grumpygresh

I would think you would see a major war within California and never have to get close to a border.


42 posted on 12/29/2012 8:41:18 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: GingisK

The encrypted codes shouldn’t be too difficult to,figure out. I saw a show which stated that, until 1976, the code was 0000000.


43 posted on 12/29/2012 8:43:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: AlexW
My great state of Tennessee, the Volunteer State, could take a band of mountain boys and whip the entire sissy state of California.

To paraphrase Rick Blaine, there are certain sections of California that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.

44 posted on 12/29/2012 8:43:32 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: MinorityRepublican

The one that uses airports to disperse
botulinum toxin, while grounding incoming flights to their own.


45 posted on 12/29/2012 8:46:19 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Road Glide

“If any of the fifty states (or a group of states) declared independence from the federal government, which would have the best chance to prevail?”

Interesting question.
Alaska. Remote, cold, self sufficient, energy independent, and armed citizens. It would be very difficult to conduct offensive military operations there most of the year. If AK signed a defense pact with Russia or China, a weakling like zero would just let it go. A lot of patriots down here would also move up there to support the cause.


46 posted on 12/29/2012 8:46:48 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Dick Vomer

Great listing of articles of freedom. I have a sister & brother in TX. I will look for their help to sponsor me, and will gladly move from DFL cesspool Minnesota, to TX (along with my guns & ammo)!


47 posted on 12/29/2012 8:47:30 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: tennmountainman
The state with the most gun owners and bullets.

I'm not sure but I would guess that might be Pennsylvania.

48 posted on 12/29/2012 8:50:54 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Jonty30
I saw a show which stated that, until 1976, the code was 0000000

Yes, Hollywood is the best source of insider Top Secret information and even scientific facts. < /sarcasm>

49 posted on 12/29/2012 8:51:45 PM PST by GingisK
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To: MinorityRepublican
The premise of the article wouldn't reflect any likely scenario if such a thing were to occur. There would be alliances based upon common interests as well as geography. Within those alliances would be the more ardent states in support of “the cause” and those who joined because there was little choice given their circumstance.

On a state by state level, the fault lines would very likely resemble the old red state - blue state split, but even so, assuming states would hold in the event of such a scenario isn't necessarily realistic.

There are several states today that are pretty thoroughly divided, with a large urban area or two negating the political desires of the vast majority of the respective states in which they're located. Illinois, California, Washington and Pennsylvania are prime examples, with Virginia, North Carolina and Florida close behind, due to net in-migration of leftist voters from northeastern states.

Either there would be intrastate fighting to determine control or the state would split much as Virginia did over secession.

The will to fight and the cultural cohesion would go to red states and counties, but strategically speaking, the blue areas control the coasts and the ports even in the south. World opinion is now socialist opinion, so material support would likely be blue if proffered.

It would be a bloody, messy war with no clear favorite going in. Red would have to take certain blue areas to function economically. Ag commodities, oil and coal would largely lie in the red but it can't all exit through the gulf.

Tough call. Best to avoid it and part ways peacefully if at all possible.

50 posted on 12/29/2012 8:52:25 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
they would never get me and many, many other conservative country-dwellers to fight against Texans

And California would have to get through Arizona to get to Texas. To give you an idea of what that would entail, let me illustrate what Arizona's gun laws are like at this time.

When a traveler enters the State of Arizona, he must stop at the border inspection station. The Arizona border inspectors don't ask whether the traveler is carrying fruit or other agricultural contraband. Rather, the traveler is asked if he is carrying a firearm. If the answer is "no", the inspector assigns him one for himself and each passenger in the car.

51 posted on 12/29/2012 8:56:32 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think Florida could beat any state.... What would you do if you saw thousands of 70 year olds, all hopped up on Viagra charging at you....


52 posted on 12/29/2012 8:58:11 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: bigbob; Smokin' Joe
I’d add Wyoming. Plenty of nukes and chances are Dick Cheney would be in an undisclosed secure location somewhere in the state to help launch ‘em ;-)

Remember where they took GWB on 9/11/01? Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. Home of the USAF Global Strike Command (which I believe handles the air-launched nukes). Kinda clashes with the state's "Duck Dynasty" image, but yeah, add Louisiana to the nukes list.

53 posted on 12/29/2012 9:00:07 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I’m guessing its Texas.


54 posted on 12/29/2012 9:04:28 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: RegulatorCountry
“Best to avoid it and part ways peacefully if at all possible.”

I agree that would be the very best option.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's what's going to happen.

55 posted on 12/29/2012 9:06:00 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Charles Martel

Wyoming, Idaho, Eastern Washington, Eastern Ore, Nev (except Las Vegas)would become a state of their own.


56 posted on 12/29/2012 9:14:56 PM PST by owlpellets
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To: MinorityRepublican

Texas would be left standing tall.I have no doubt about it.


57 posted on 12/29/2012 9:22:12 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: baddog 219
What would you do if you saw thousands of 70 year olds, all hopped up on Viagra charging at you....

All driving Abrams tanks 15 mph with there left blinker flashing.

58 posted on 12/29/2012 9:24:59 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
N.C.

Ft. Bragg,(XVIII Airborne Corps, 82nd Airborne, U.S. Army Special Operations Command. Pope Field A.B. ),
Jacksonville Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune which, when combined with nearby bases Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Cherry Point, MCAS New River, Camp Geiger, Camp Johnson, Stone Bay and Courthouse Bay, makes up the largest concentration of Marines and sailors in the world.
Located in Goldsboro, Seymour Johnson Air Force Base is home of the 4th Fighter Wing and 916th Air Refueling Wing. One of the busiest air stations in the United States Coast Guard is located at the Coast Guard Air Station in Elizabeth City. Also stationed in North Carolina is the Military Ocean Terminal Sunny Point in Southport.

Just sayin...
59 posted on 12/29/2012 9:30:19 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

it would be hell watching North Carolina and VA go at it...


60 posted on 12/29/2012 9:34:56 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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