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Great news: Federally-permitted lightbulbs a cancer risk
Hotair ^ | 01/04/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/04/2013 12:56:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Legislate in haste ... repent at leisure. In their haste to rid Americans of the unconscionable plague of perfectly safe if somewhat inefficient incandescent lighting, politicians in Washington have forced us to adopt more expensive technology in its place. Compact flourescent lighting (CFLs) are already known to be a considerable disposal risk, thanks to the mercury used in them. A new study reported earlier this week by Miami's CBS affiliate warns of an operational risk as well ... ultraviolet radiation that can cause skin cancers and even acute burns (via Katie Pavlich):

Every time you turn on the lights, you may be putting yourself at risk, according to a disturbing new study.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

Energy efficient bulbs are eco-friendly and can save you big bucks, but experts say that some could also have a dark side.

Actually, they’re not all that eco-friendly, as even the government acknowledges. The EPA wants to argue that the release of mercury from CFLs in disposal is less than that released from the burning of the amount of coal one saves by using them. That may well be true overall, but not if one breaks in your house. At that point, you need to conduct an hours-long cleanup — and even if you want to dispose of an unbroken CFL, it takes special disposal in most jurisdictions due to the eco-unfriendly nature of CFLs.

And now, it takes special instructions to use them, too:

Money saving, compact fluorescent light bulbs emit high levels of ultra violet radiation, according to a new study. Research at Long Island’s Stony Brook found that the bulbs emit rays so strong that they can actually burn skin and skin cells.

“The results were that you could actually initiate cell death,” said Marcia Simon, a Professor of Dermatology.

Exposure to the bulbs could lead to premature aging and skin cancer, according to doctors.

“It can also cause skin cancer in the deadliest for, and that’s melanoma,” said Dr. Rebecca Tung.

Well, these are just the defective CFLs, right? The outsides are coated to block UV radiation. And that’s true, but …

In every bulb that researchers tested they found that the protective coating around the light creating ‘phosphor’ was cracked, allowing dangerous ultraviolet rays to escape.

So what can you do? Stay away from them:

Stony Brook researches advised that customers exercise caution and stay two feet away from the bulbs at all times, while storing them in an overhead fixture or lamp.

Gee … maybe Congress should have thought to check this out before regulating incandescents out of existence.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; agwfraud; cancer; cfl; corruption; envirofascism; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenfraud; liberalfascism; lightbulbs; thegreenlie
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1 posted on 01/04/2013 12:56:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Aren’t they also a potential bio-hazard due to their mercury content?


2 posted on 01/04/2013 1:00:54 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: SeekAndFind

Once again... the feds helping us goes very wrong.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 1:06:51 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

does this mean no more subsidized homo depot lightbulbs?


4 posted on 01/04/2013 1:07:32 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ColdOne
Legislate in haste ... repent at leisure.

Isn't this always the case?

5 posted on 01/04/2013 1:10:10 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We stocked up on incandescents and probably have enough 40w, 60w, 75w, and 100w bulbs to keep our great-grandchildren in warm, safe light.


6 posted on 01/04/2013 1:11:18 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Heck, back in the 50s, we used to break thermometers and play with the mercury in a small dish. We’d coat pennies, nickels and dimes with it, and I think all 3 of us are still alive, last I checked. LOL.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 1:13:33 PM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t won one! Don’t want one! Went to S-Lowe’s in 2011, but up a bunch of all the bulbs necessary, after doing the mental figuring, to last me till they carry me out of this apartment! I started this year, since last year was a ‘year of doctor crap’, by replacing them all. ALL incandescent, ALL cheaper on MY pocket, and fits MY budget!

Happy New Year!


8 posted on 01/04/2013 1:14:52 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wondering - aren’t those long tube florescent lights the same? Don’t they have mercury in them as well?


9 posted on 01/04/2013 1:14:57 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: stayathomemom

Yes it is.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 1:17:22 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a, ‘Good-News/Bad-News’ situation.

The good-news is that I can’t afford to buy these bulbs because of the new taxes.

The bad-news is the new taxes.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 1:18:30 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

“Federally-permitted lightbulbs a cancer risk”

DUH....
Anyone paying attention when this moronic law was passed already knew this, but was called an “anti-environment, anti-science whacko!” at the time, as you recall.

Funny how these things ALWAYS come full-circle to bite us on the a$$, isn’t it? Mustn’t let little things like FACTS get in the way of the Democrat/GE agenda, can we?


12 posted on 01/04/2013 1:22:30 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: SeekAndFind

bflr


13 posted on 01/04/2013 1:24:45 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Got mercury poisoning *twice* from picking up broken ones.

When *one* breaks, it releases 400x the ‘safe amount’ of mercury into the area.

Both times, I’d cleaned up 3 or 4 of them within a month of each other.

I only use them in low traffic areas now in closed light fixtures where they can’t fall onto the floor when they invariably ‘explode’ for no reason.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 1:26:00 PM PST by Salamander (Nothing says “Welcome to my home!” like snakes.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good to know Consumer Reports gave them such a good write up.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 1:32:17 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: SeekAndFind
Living not that far from the Canadian border you sometimes hear talk,in my neck of the woods,of illegally bringing old fashioned toilets from Canada (where they're legal) to here (where they're not).Will I someday have to travel to Canada to buy light bulbs that don't contain mercury and don't emit radiation?
16 posted on 01/04/2013 1:45:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: MeganC
We stocked up on incandescents and probably have enough 40w, 60w, 75w, and 100w bulbs to keep our great-grandchildren in warm, safe light.

Better lose 'em in a boating accident, cuz when barry's boys bust down your front door in the middle of the night to get your guns, they'll grab those illegal light bulbs too.
17 posted on 01/04/2013 1:50:56 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I guess we have nobility in our Congress?

From "Amazing Grace":
William Wilberforce: No matter how loud you shout, you will not drown out the voice of the people!
Lord Tarleton: (insulted) People?

18 posted on 01/04/2013 1:51:51 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Salamander
Got mercury poisoning

This is one of the reasons I bought 4 dozen 100w incandescents before the ban.

The other reasons:


19 posted on 01/04/2013 1:57:50 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm

We thought we’d save money “as advertised”.

When your light bill is almost $700 a month, you look for ways to cut back.

This was not a good way, obviously.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 2:07:47 PM PST by Salamander (Nothing says “Welcome to my home!” like snakes.)
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To: Salamander

$700! Ouch!

Turn off the grow lights! (just kidding)


21 posted on 01/04/2013 2:12:49 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm

We have electric heat *plus* the usual electric household stuff and the machine shop.

Sometimes, the bill is higher than that.

[they raised our electric prices to ‘save the earth’]


22 posted on 01/04/2013 2:17:47 PM PST by Salamander (Nothing says “Welcome to my home!” like snakes.)
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To: carriage_hill; SkyDancer

Liquid mercury is absorbed very slowly. But in the environment, some bacteria methylate it and it enters the food chain, eventually getting into fish and water.

Look up Minimata Disease that happened in Japan. Methylmercury poisoning in people who ate a lot of fish from polluted rivers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease

Here’s a scary story of a woman killed by a few drops of pure methylmercury when some penetrated her latex gloves. She died less than a year later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn


23 posted on 01/04/2013 2:18:31 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I heard someone state that one CFL lightbulb, if not subsidized, would cost you $25 over the counter.

We’re paying for them, of course, through our taxes.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 2:20:35 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Aren’t they also a potential bio-hazard due to their mercury content?

Yes, that was mentioned in the article.......

25 posted on 01/04/2013 2:20:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

” - - - Exposure to the bulbs could lead to premature aging and skin cancer, according to doctors.

“It can also cause skin cancer in the deadliest for, and that’s melanoma,” said Dr. Rebecca Tung. - - - “

Where is the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) when yuh need ‘em?


26 posted on 01/04/2013 2:24:34 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: carriage_hill
Heck, back in the 50s, we used to break thermometers and play with the mercury in a small dish.

I did the same, coating dimes and such to make them "shiny". Not much risk there, unless you lick your coins. However, flu shots contain mercury that is directly injected into your body - that has more effect on your health.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 2:27:33 PM PST by roadcat
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To: SeekAndFind

This is exactly the kind of crap that happens when government dictates technology.

Watch how fast they will remove these bulbs from the Pentagon, the Capitol Building and the White Hut and expect the populace to continue using them.

Any of you mothers willing to expose your babies to these money-saving light bulbs?


28 posted on 01/04/2013 2:34:10 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you ever notice old plastic cased computers turn yellow with age? Mostly on the side facing windows with exposure from sunlight. But also on the areas exposed to fluorescent lighting in offices.

I have old computers and toys in rooms with only incandescent lighting, and they don’t suffer from yellowing. Yellowing happens with the UV from fluorescent lights. Try it on the new CFL bulbs, it will quickly yellow light colored plastics. Then consider what CFLs are doing to your skin.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 2:39:43 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat
There's definitely something rotten about fluorescent lights in general. I don't know if they still do this, but when I was a kid the grocery stores sold ham steaks turned over in their packaging and had a sticker with a picture of ham on the top.

I once asked the butcher why they did this.

He said: "Fluorescents turn the meat grey. Makes the ham unappealing. So we turn them away from the light."

30 posted on 01/04/2013 3:03:51 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: carriage_hill

we used to play in the “crick”...just down from the dump......probably not very safe....but we’re all alive and kicking.....but we are a little weird I guess....lol


31 posted on 01/04/2013 3:10:17 PM PST by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind
LED lights also use the *florescent* effect.
There is no such thing as a *white* LED, yet to my knowledge.
They use a florescent shroud over the red or green LED to produce the white light effect by secondary photon emissions from the florescent material.
32 posted on 01/04/2013 3:16:40 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: cherry

Ditto that. And drank out of garden hoses, rode in cars/truck wo/ seatbelts, had “BB gun wars” w/ 5-6 guys... somehow, we all survived. Amazing!


33 posted on 01/04/2013 3:21:16 PM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Mail all broken, burnt out CFL’s to your Cong - ress - Critter / Imperial Senator, in protest.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 3:22:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Has anyone had one of these hippie contraptions pop on them? I had one burned out the other day. When I pulled it out, there was a big hole in the glass. Ungood.


35 posted on 01/04/2013 3:31:07 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: MeganC
We stocked up on incandescents and probably have enough 40w, 60w, 75w, and 100w bulbs to keep our great-grandchildren in warm, safe light.

I began my stocking up on 60w bulbs today. As I was checking out at my friendly Dollar General store I could not resist telling the young black clerk that at this time next year these bulbs would not be available for sale. She asked, "Why?" I said, "People electing Democrats to Congress." No reaction, but I knew there had to be an internal one.

36 posted on 01/04/2013 3:42:52 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: SeekAndFind

The Congress is so gutless that it can’t give us back the Edison lightbulb. It is so afraid of being called anti-environment that it will continue to support a POS lightbulb that doesn’t work and is dangerous.

And we expect these turds to fight the nazi Buckwheat and his coven of fat welfare mommas with cell phones stuck in their ears?

Ha!


37 posted on 01/04/2013 3:56:17 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes, it takes years and more than a ton of dirt to effectively handle 1 bulb. We have been stock piling these bulbs since this law was passed.

Every time a light bulb burns out now we buy 4 more packs of incadescent bulbs. They are great heat sources, and that is what some clever guy in Europe did to avoid the stupid law.

Just relabled them as heaters, not a light source. LOL At least that’s what my daughter told me.


38 posted on 01/04/2013 4:02:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

clarification stock piling incadescents not CFL.


39 posted on 01/04/2013 4:03:23 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: The Cajun

Just a clarification: “white” LEDs do use fluorescent phosphors to generate the wide range of colors that we perceive as “white.” The starting frequency of the “white” LEDs, however, is not red nor green, nor ultraviolet, but blue.

In general, a phosphorescent material cannot generate a color of a shorter wavelength than the impinging wavelength, so red or green LEDs cannot stimulate phosphors to generate blue light, but blue LEDs can stimulate phosphors to generate all visible frequencies of light.

Blue, or other visible light, is not dangerous at any normal intensity used for household illumination.

How this relates to “fluorescent” lights: “fluorescent” lights generate ultraviolet (UV) light (shorter wavelength than any visible light) instead of the blue light generated by LEDs. The UV light then impinges on phosphors to make visible light. This article points out that some of the UV light (dangerous at “normal” intensities) does leak out of the “fluorescent” bulbs. This is a danger not shared by household LEDs which don’t generate UV light.


40 posted on 01/04/2013 4:11:03 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s the highest watt incandenscent I can stock up on today?

Where should I get them?

Thanks in advance for all info.


41 posted on 01/04/2013 4:23:37 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Thanks for the info.
I had read an article that didn't go into all the detail.
Had never thought about how they got the *white* light from LEDs before reading the article.
Wonder how much efficiency loss there is by having to use fluorescent phosphors for final output compared to the lumen output produced by the original blue light?
Would think there would be some loss.
42 posted on 01/04/2013 4:38:34 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Salamander
May I ask what were the symptoms, and the treatment?

My wife dropped on the a utility hallway floor and broke. Fortunately, it was the only one in the house when we bought the place.

43 posted on 01/04/2013 5:41:53 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: Persevero

Go here for incandescent bulbs:
http://www.newcandescent.com/store/customer/


44 posted on 01/04/2013 7:51:50 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: rightly_dividing

She’s probably fine.

The first time, a CFL in the bathroom blew out and showered its guts into a clean basket of laundry.

Like an idiot, I simply washed it all again and dried it, sending the mercury all through the upstairs of the house and embedding it in every item of clothing.

Then, 3 more broke within a short time.

My symptoms were heat intolerance and neurological problems.
[visual disturbances, incoordination, dizziness, tremors, etc]

The “treatment” was to avoid any more exposure.

They have chemicals which ‘drive’ mercury out of your system but it’s usually more agonizing than simply waiting for it leave on its own.

However, it never totally leaves and you’ll always be more susceptible to being ‘poisoned’ again.

Which why I wound up with it the second time after only 2 bulbs breaking.

Right after my blood reached ‘acceptable levels’ a couple months ago, just like clockwork, another CFL blew out in the light above my sofa.

This time, the light didn’t break...the glass at the bottom of the bulb literally *melted* apart from its base.

I only noticed it when the light went out and I put in a new bulb.

It was black and had really scary looking ‘blisters’ all over the glass.

I hate the damn things.

But hey, it’s all for the good of Gaia and the children, right?


45 posted on 01/04/2013 8:07:55 PM PST by Salamander (Nothing says “Welcome to my home!” like snakes.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Thank you rightlydividing, that seems to be about 3x the price I just found at bulbs.com; but, it seems they claim to last twice as long, plus, apparently have some positives with full spectrum light and etc. Worth it in your opinion?


46 posted on 01/04/2013 8:15:58 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

Since my stock of 100’s will carry me another year or more, I haven’t bought at either website. I tend to want the rough service bulb over a standard duty, but that is because of such variations in the quality of standard bulbs. My stockpile is Sylvania and I an not thrilled with their lifespan. Then there is this place:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/
but I an not impressed there either.


47 posted on 01/04/2013 9:30:49 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: SkyDancer

Same technology, however it appears the curls in the CFL’s cause the phosphorus coating to break, causing the cancer risk. Also, the tube florescent lamps normally are installed in ceiling light fixtures with some sort of cover on them. Not in table lamps or other easy to break locations.


48 posted on 01/04/2013 10:09:07 PM PST by matt04
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To: 50mm

You can still find 100w incandescent bulbs. Most large chain home improvement store don’t have them anymore but I have had good luck at some dollar/discount stores.


49 posted on 01/04/2013 10:13:14 PM PST by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind

Psssst!... Hey, buddy. You wanna buy an incandescent light bulb? Cheap!!??


50 posted on 01/04/2013 10:19:29 PM PST by Gritty (Gun-Free Zones produce only fuzzy, warm feelings and body counts - Gerard Vanderleun)
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