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Democrat Underground Blames Bush for Obama Payroll Tax Hike
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 4, 2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/06/2013 2:36:01 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: This is hilarious. As you know, ladies and gentlemen, beginning with the first day of the year, and because of the fiscal cliff deal, the temporary partial tax cut on the Social Security tax expired. There was a temporary partial exemption on the payroll tax. I've been asked if most people noticed it. They didn't notice it until they were told about it. It added up to, depending on your income, it could be a thousand dollars a year that you had extra because of this partial tax. Anyway, on January 1, that partial temporary tax cut expired, and now everybody's payroll taxes are back up to 100% of what it should be, which is 13%. The employer pays half and the employee pays half. The employee pays it all but that's too complicated even for people who understand the economy.

Anyway, here's the thing, what happened here. The first paychecks for the new year for some people have gone out and they have noticed that their paychecks are smaller. And somebody went to Democrat Underground, somebody got the idea to go there and just troll and look around, and one of the first posts in Democrat Underground last night was this: "What happened that my Social Security withholding's in my paycheck just went up? My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don't feel comfortable with. I guarantee this decrease is gonna hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?"

The average Democrat who was out there applauding the tax increase on the rich discovered smaller take-home pay in his first paycheck. What the hell happened? So he looked into it and he found out that his payroll tax is now gone back up to what it should have been all along, the temporary partial deduction expired, and his take-home pay is less. He thought only millionaires and billionaires are gonna be paying more in taxes. We tried to warn everybody here that the middle class was gonna have a tax increase because the payroll tax deduction expired, and it was going back to full boat, 6.2% employee pay, 6.2 employer pay. The 6.2 employee payment was 4.2 for the last year or two. But now it's back up to 6.2, which is gonna mean, depending on your income level, somebody making $75,000 a year, it's $1500 a year taken out of their paycheck that has not been in the past two years.

Anyway, this began a thread at Democrat Underground with all kinds of ticked off Democrats, livid Democrats, and what was hilarious about it was that over half of them were blaming George Bush for it, when it was Obama. It was all Obama! Obama and the Democrats engineered -- and the Republicans went along with this -- the payroll tax cut, which was a temporary partial tax cut on the employee side, but it was restored with the fiscal cliff deal. So paychecks beginning this year, first week of the year, are smaller. And you should see the thread of all these ticked off Democrats who had no idea they were gonna be paying more in taxes. And as part of the thread, there are people trying to explain to them what happened, and some of them understand it, and some of them don't, but they're all livid.

They're fit to be tied. And then they resort, it's probably Bush's fault, they think. They think that Bush has come back from four years of a presidency that's expired to bite them. And they're livid over it. It's a classic illustration. You talk about low-information voters. You talk about people have no clue. You talk about people that support things they have no idea what they're doing in terms of harming themselves by virtue of what they support. The Democrat Underground: what happened that my Social Security withholding and my paycheck just went up? This guy had no idea. And it's a long thread. I don't know how long it is now.

This is happening all over the country. Now, people that get paid every two weeks, this hasn't happened to them yet. You get paid on the 15th or 30th of every month or whatever, your shock is yet to happen. But some people, somehow, have already gotten their first paycheck of the year and they've noticed it.

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RUSH: We played the sound bite earlier in the program. Ali Velshi, the ace economics reporter for CNN, said that the great thing that's happening in America today is that finally the American people understand economics. They understand what's going on, and they understand that the debt limit, for example, has nothing to do with federal spending. It's been a long time coming but they finally understand it.

Now, I mentioned moments ago when I was telling you the outrage on Democrat Underground from people whose paychecks were smaller because their Social Security tax went back to normal. They didn't know it was coming and they were livid and they're blaming Bush. So I got some e-mail asking: "What do you mean, blaming Bush?" It's a good question. I should have 'splained it. Here is the thinking.

Now, remember, Ali Velshi says the American people understand economics. On Democrat Underground, they blamed Bush for causing the economic crash by cutting taxes. In other words, the people at Democrat Underground believe the recession happened because of tax cuts. Now, what...? If I may again remind you what I was saying throughout December, up until the time I left for the Christmas break: What was Obama's objective?

Obama was attempting to achieve a confession, a confession obtained from the Republicans. He wanted them to break their pledge to never raise taxes on anybody. Obama particularly wanted them to break that pledge on the rich so that he could spin that into the Republicans admitting that tax cuts caused the economic problems. This is why I don't think the Republicans have the slightest clue what's going on, folks. And this is why I say it.

The Republican brand (if you will), if it's known for anything, it's tax cuts, which means a growing economy. Tax cuts mean you keep more of what you earn. It means that there are more jobs created. It means you broaden the base, you increase jobs, and therefore you increase the number of taxpayers. The more people there are paying taxes, the more revenue there is to Washington. But you don't have to raise individual taxes to increase revenue to Washington.

You can get more revenue by simply creating jobs, and you do that by lowering taxes. And that's what the Republican Party has been known for. And Obama wanted to strip them of that. Furthermore, he wanted that identification, and he's got it! Obama's the big tax-cutter now. That's what people think. But the Republican tax cuts caused the problems. This has been Obama's point for four years.

Obama even admitted earlier this week that what he pulled off was one of the most profound political achievements in 20 years, and he's right. He got the Republicans to agree that their tax cuts, particularly for the rich, led to the recession that we're in. So with more Americans now, quote, unquote, "understanding the economy," that's what they think. So over at Democrat Underground, these schlubs are falling right in line.

The Bush tax cuts led to the recession, which means that Obama, in order to grow the economy, had to raise taxes. That's what they think! This is what we're up against.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bushsfault; bushtaxcut; bushtaxcuts; obamalegacy; obamataxhike; partisanmediashills; revisionisthistory; stuckonstupid

1 posted on 01/06/2013 2:36:10 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

You mean to tell me that there are people posting at DU that actually work and collect a paycheck?


2 posted on 01/06/2013 2:38:26 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kaslin

This time next year Ubama’s favorability rating will be in the 20s, but by then it won’t matter anymore.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 2:41:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

ANY LIB, in good standing, should understand this in a few words.

Bush etal authorized a tax break which expired.

SO when the tax break gets put back in, it is NOT a tax, it is just making things the way they were..

Now that BO gets ‘stuck’ with having to actually order it rescinded, it is Bush’s fault cause he gave it to begin with.

SO, This NEW TAX increase that isn’t a TAX increase, is W’s fault.

Bottom line your check gonna be smaller AND if your hours are lowered as your employer doesn’t want to pay all the ‘extras’ for Govt Programs etc, some how, some way, W will get blamed again.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 2:44:24 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Kaslin

typical leftists


5 posted on 01/06/2013 2:45:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kaslin

Good grief! DUh is still around?
LMBO! How retro. A blast from the past.

I remember screwing around there with the mice about ten years ago. I got “tombstoned” in about 2 hours because I pointed out a couple of inconvenient facts. Never went back. Took two showers.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 2:46:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No. You overestimate the power of people who know better and will not be able to change a thing.


7 posted on 01/06/2013 2:48:45 PM PST by Dacula
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To: Kaslin

When they can’t face the reality that their ideology is a complete and utter failure, there’s only one thing left to do.

Blame Bush.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 2:50:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Blame Bush? If you want to know what their FR nicks are, just look for those who are also blaming Romney.

Thanks Kaslin.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 2:51:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Farmer Dean
at least a few of them, somebody's got to flip burgers and ask you if you want fries with them...
10 posted on 01/06/2013 2:52:28 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kaslin

I just handed my 2% cost of living raise over to Obama and co. Add to that the actual 3% rise in the cost of living and we’re talking about a 5% hit. That’s $4,500. Add that to the same 5% hit my girlfriend just took and now we’re talking about a 10% reduction in this household’s disposable income or about $9,000 per year less money to spend on things like gas, groceries, utility bills, mortgage payments, property taxes, etc. This President is an economic disaster. Bush was an infinitely better President.


11 posted on 01/06/2013 2:56:56 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Kaslin

The buttholes at DU should see what it does to those of us who make real money instead of minimum wage.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 3:10:46 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Kaslin
It was a great thread as it devovled into class warfare between the haves and have-nots over at DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022132436

Amazingly, there were a small handful of Voices of Reason (aka "Freeper trolls") calling people out for trying to blame this on Bush.

13 posted on 01/06/2013 3:14:32 PM PST by Drew68
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To: RC one

Five percent of yours plus five percent of hers is still five percent of your combined total.

Not ten.


14 posted on 01/06/2013 3:16:19 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: xrmusn
Bush etal authorized a tax break which expired.

Nope. Hussein did this one all on his own. And RATS are upset.

15 posted on 01/06/2013 3:21:16 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Kaslin
outrage on Democrat Underground

I'd be apoplectic too if it bit into my patchouli money.

16 posted on 01/06/2013 3:25:33 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: RC one
my girlfriend

Time to tie the knot and get that marriage penalty.

17 posted on 01/06/2013 3:26:46 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: xrmusn
Problem is the SS tax holiday was put into effect over 1 year ago. By Zero. It just came to an end.

On the other hand, when the Bush tax cuts went into effect 10 years ago, it was called a tax break for the wealthy. When they were set to expire, they suddenly became a tax increase on the middle class.

18 posted on 01/06/2013 3:27:59 PM PST by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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To: Farmer Dean; Kaslin

I read the thread on this over at DU (it’s locked, BTW - the original poster removed it, but the comments are still there). The best I can gather, it looks like they all work as Whole Foods or Starbucks and make $10 an hour, and want to blame their economic condition on the one percent. Just my observation.


19 posted on 01/06/2013 3:32:27 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: RC one
we’re talking about a 5% hit. That’s $4,500. Add that to the same 5% hit my girlfriend just took and now we’re talking about a 10% reduction in this household’s disposable income

WHAAAAATTTT????

If your income is 100k, and your girlfriends income is 100k, that equals 200k.

you lose 5k and she loses 5k that equals 10k, but is only 5% of 200k.

20 posted on 01/06/2013 3:34:12 PM PST by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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To: Eaker

21 posted on 01/06/2013 3:38:10 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: RC one

President Bush was a thousand times a better president than that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 3:41:12 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

It’s ALWAYS”W’s”Fault!!!


23 posted on 01/06/2013 3:50:47 PM PST by bandleader
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To: Kaslin

Typical idiot liberal reaction. You can show then that their payroll tax went down under Obastard and then back up under Obastard and yet they will somehow find a way to blame it on Bush.


24 posted on 01/06/2013 3:51:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: Chode

I suppose that you’re right.I envisioned them all as the 47% tapeworms getting a government handout.


25 posted on 01/06/2013 3:55:46 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kaslin
Rush has been great with his "Low-information News" asides. Amazing. He's in the same league as H.L. Menchen and Ambrose Bierce.
26 posted on 01/06/2013 4:02:42 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: Farmer Dean
like i said a few of them, like the whites that don't qualify for welfare...
27 posted on 01/06/2013 4:05:41 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kaslin

The only reason they do this is to keep conservatives out of the loop.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 4:33:48 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SoothingDave
Five percent of yours plus five percent of hers is still five percent of your combined total.

Not ten.

Rant spoiler.

29 posted on 01/06/2013 8:48:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: xrmusn

BO, and BO alone, gave them the 2% temporary payroll tax reduction.

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 was signed into law on December 17, 2010.

It cut the employee portion of the ss tax from 6.2% to 4.2%.


30 posted on 01/06/2013 9:39:06 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Drew68
I love this response:

I had so many calls today asking why their checks were less than they had been. The first thing I thought was "do you live in a vacuum? Have you not paid any attention to the news?". But I didn't voice that. Funny, not one person called to tell me that they had MORE in their check when the reduction took effect.

31 posted on 01/06/2013 9:57:45 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ltc8k6

BO, and BO alone, gave them the 2% temporary payroll tax reduction
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Sorry, I am mixing apples and oranges here.
So much BS that I try not to pay attention to etc and get swept up in the ‘spirit’ of things.......

Either way, it is Bush’s fault....

California already to rename San Adreas — Bush’s Fault


32 posted on 01/06/2013 11:22:31 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Farmer Dean

There is a guy that sits next to me at work he is around 30 years old, and he is absolutely convinced that the Bush tax cuts caused the recession. I asked him to explain this to me. He thinks that it took a lot of money out of the economy, because the “rich” kept it in their banks. If we just raise the taxes back on the rich, the money will be reintroduced to the economy. I said, everyone got a tax cut, and everyone will face a tax increase, but he seem adament that this is the solution.

I guess we shall see. He clearly doesn’t understand economics.


33 posted on 01/07/2013 1:43:53 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: RC one

Since I knew this was coming, I started cutting expenses starting in Nov. America used to stand for improving yourself and going places, now its living with less, reducing your carbon footprint, and going nowhere.


34 posted on 01/07/2013 2:00:31 AM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah and for 2 years we who are on social security did not get a cost of living increase, but the premium for our medicare went up. I do remember that when I worked the deduction for ss that was taken out of my paycheck was 6.2% and my employer payed the same


35 posted on 01/07/2013 3:52:57 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

It’s the brilliant, intellectual, really-really smart
Progressive geniuses in the electorate who elect the brilliant, intellectual, really-really smart Progressive geniuses who are telling everyone that the reason that there are tax hikes is because that moronic, illiterate
Christian dope George Bush made them do it because of his tax cuts. See?, Ya know?

/s/

IMHO


36 posted on 01/07/2013 5:42:31 AM PST by ripley
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To: Lancey Howard
Never went back. Took two showers.

LOL! Did you use Rid?

37 posted on 01/07/2013 2:31:14 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: castlegreyskull
he is absolutely convinced that the Bush tax cuts caused the recession. .... He thinks that it took a lot of money out of the economy

There's your answer. Your co-worktwit thinks that

GOVERNMENT SPENDING = THE ECONOMY

He's got Keynes OverDose, Paul Samuelson Clap, Paul Krugman Syph, and has been intellectually sodomized by academic Leftists. Poor boy.

38 posted on 01/07/2013 2:41:58 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I told my co-worker he was more than welcome to give the government everything he has. He responded “Why would I do that?” I sarcastically said, “To help the economy.”


39 posted on 01/07/2013 4:00:25 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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