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Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world, Part One
abc news ^ | Uploaded to youtube.com on Apr 21, 2010 | abc news

Posted on 01/11/2013 4:06:21 PM PST by Right Wing Assault

The controlled study documented in these videos show that concealed carry permit holders are fooling themselves if they think they will be able to react effectively to armed aggressors. Most CCW holders won't even be able to un-holster their gun. They will more likely be killed themselves or kill innocent bystanders than stop the aggressor. For more details, see "Unintended Consequences: Pro-Handgun Experts Prove That Handguns Are a Dangerous Choice for Self-Defense." http://www.vpc.org/studies/unincont.htm.

CCW permit holders don't protect innocent people. They kill them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: abc; banglist; carry; concealed; guncontrol; liberalagenda; progressiveagenda; propaganda; secondamendment
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To: Obadiah

“Estes rocket engine strapped to an “exploding” pickup truck”

I had that truck years ago. As much as I explained to my mom they set it up, whenever I called she would ask “So how is your truck? I’m always so worried about you in that truck and it blowing up.” (seriously)


41 posted on 01/11/2013 5:47:40 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Right Wing Assault

It’s getting comical.


42 posted on 01/11/2013 6:03:41 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Where did all the carjackers go right after passing Conceal Carry? Guess they didn’t get to watch these stupid BS videos.


43 posted on 01/11/2013 6:06:03 PM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Another use of indirection by the gun-grabbers.

According to DOJ crime statitistics, guns are used by private citizenz 2.5 million times per year to prevent violent crimes like rape, robbery, carjacking and home-invasion, 99% of the time without a shot being fired. (Source: GunFacts.info)

Fact is, most criminals are cowards who only pick on victims they believe to be defenseless. As soon as criminals discover that an intended victim is not defenseless, they run like Hell.

Case closed.

44 posted on 01/11/2013 6:06:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Did you hear about the mass shooting in a San Antonio theater a couple of weeks ago?

No?

That's because a CCW holder in the audience pulled out her concealed weapon and shot the shooter after he got off only one shot. End of discussion.

45 posted on 01/11/2013 6:10:19 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

VPC stands for “The Violence Policy Center.”

http://www.vpc.org/aboutvpc.htm

from their site:

“The Violence Policy Center (VPC), a national tax-exempt 501(c)(3) non-profit organization based in Washington, DC, works to stop this annual toll of death and injury through research, advocacy, education, and collaboration. Firearms are the only consumer product not regulated by a federal agency for health and safety. ..... The VPC believes that the answer to reducing gun violence lies in applying the decades-long lessons of consumer product safety regulation and injury prevention to the gun industry and its products. This approach is detailed in our landmark 1994 publication Cease Fire: A Comprehensive Strategy to Reduce Firearms Violence.”

Among other things, they believe that gun ownership is declining. (!???)

and this:

“In 2009 the VPC released two studies—Iron River: Gun Violence and Illegal Firearms Trafficking on the U.S.-Mexico Border and Indicted: Types of Firearms and Methods of Gun Trafficking from the United States to Mexico as Revealed in U.S. Court Documents—focusing on the role played by America’s lax gun laws and the easy availability of military-style weaponry on the U.S. civilian gun market in helping feed cartel violence in Mexico.”

Draw your own conclusion as to who has an agenda and who is really living in La La land. Could the CCP “actors” be members or supporters of the VPC? It might be a nice investigation for someone in DC to find out who is in the videos.


46 posted on 01/11/2013 6:12:39 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Right Wing Assault

CCW came to Wisconsin just under two years ago. Those of us who have become licensed are, by a big majority, long time gun owners and shooters in hunting & recreation. We are comfortable being armed, will use the firearm responsibly and are more aware of our surroundings while armed. We are not cowboys or chumps who fumble with our holstered firearm.

This TV video is bunk and not representative of good folks armed under CCW rules.


47 posted on 01/11/2013 6:54:34 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Right Wing Assault

A straw-man presentation.

Using their logic, we should allow neither the military, nor the police access to weapons.

(which begs the question - why are their “bad guys” so good with guns?)


48 posted on 01/11/2013 7:13:50 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

There are many of us who don’t believe the BS the liberal media is spewing. Practiced CCW holders are a good thing to have around in a bad situation. The hoplophobes just don’t get it. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy ;-)


49 posted on 01/11/2013 7:27:01 PM PST by toolman1401
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To: RicocheT

All great points you make. Hoplophobes believe the police are there to protect them and others with guns are just plain dangerous. The police carry those guns to protect themselves. When seconds count, they are only minutes away. They will be there after the incident is over to check on the forensic evidence and do paperwork. Only you are responsible for your own protection and those under your mantle of protection. A weapon is nothing more than a useful rescue tool and may be used for other sporting purposes.


50 posted on 01/11/2013 7:33:02 PM PST by toolman1401
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To: Right Wing Assault
Trained and experienced LEO's staging a shooting event in a classroom in which they knew which student was armed, and exactly where that student was sitting. Yeah, that proves that CCW carrying individuals would never be able to defend themselves/s

This is a total load of BS.

51 posted on 01/11/2013 8:09:47 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Barf alert needed. Who is that smarmy condescending all-knowing all-perfect all-caring narrator? I barely stood it to 4 min mark on first one.

I’d say the students in the exercise had heart and did quite well considering the limiting masks and gloves. That was a beginning for them, should hardly be discouraging for anyone!

Stupid liberals and their smarmy preaching... Don’t believe a word they say, or a conclusion they draw.


52 posted on 01/11/2013 8:09:47 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: Pollster1

The other thing is they put that funky head thing on them which limits movement and dirorients, and they have the shooter go directly to the person with the “weapon” and “kill them”. What a bunch of bull pucky.


53 posted on 01/11/2013 11:01:22 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Wicket

disorients . . .


54 posted on 01/11/2013 11:03:02 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: 21twelve
I had that truck years ago. As much as I explained to my mom they set it up, whenever I called she would ask “So how is your truck? I’m always so worried about you in that truck and it blowing up.” (seriously)

I've noticed that same peculiar behavior among "movement" liberals. Most curious....

They parrot some nominally clever mockery from John Stewart or Bill Mahr. I utterly destroy the premise of the mockery (which is only clever if you uncritically embrace the leftist premise in the first place). Then they continue to repeat the "line" as if I've said absolutley nothing.

How does one remain civil with someone who is literally not smart enough to know they've been beaten?

55 posted on 01/11/2013 11:50:55 PM PST by papertyger
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

EPU, THANK YOU for the link to Gun Facts. For those who haven’t been there, it is a 100+ well-documented book. It is downloadable for FREE (but donations accepted) in three formats or may be purchased on Amazon for $6.95.


56 posted on 01/12/2013 4:08:07 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: jonno
why are their “bad guys” so good with guns?

I forgot to mention that very point! They are police officers! What a deal. Rookies against well-trained shooters.

As several people have mentioned, most bad guys have NO training. They just think you get a gun, shoot a couple of trees or telephone poles (of course with 'gangsta style' since you gots to look slick), and you be ready to go.

57 posted on 01/12/2013 4:14:59 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’m taking a CC class today! I’m stoked! Next, I’ll have to figure out which weapon I like and will fit my very small hands, and train train train.

I’m so tired of these d-bags with an agenda!


58 posted on 01/12/2013 5:05:40 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: theBuckwheat

I’ve seen similar reports that licensees are less likely that *cops* to be found guilty of crimes.


59 posted on 01/12/2013 5:11:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Bookmark


60 posted on 01/12/2013 10:27:24 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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