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Radio host and noted conspiracy theorist Alex Jones responded to Glenn Beck’s criticisms on HuffPost Live Friday, saying he is a “despicable person” like Piers Morgan who thinks his audience is “stupid” and has no ideological consistency.
With his sights set on Beck, Jones argued that he had promoted torture and “taken all the stuff” he has written and “neo-con’d it” only to release it later under his name.
“So he’s mad that I’m getting on hundreds of stations. He’s mad I’m getting attention. I’m not here trying to be numero uno like Glenn Beck; I’m here trying to save our Bill of Rights and Constitution,” Jones said.
Jones also found a conspiracy within Beck’s libertarian views. He said Beck only became a libertarian because he “knows the Republican Party is dying,” and because “most Americans call themselves libertarians,” he wants to “brand it so that he’s the leader and he’s the head of libertarians.”
“It’s Glenn Beck that has promoted torture,” Jones continued...
Later in the HuffPost Live interview, Jones began screaming after getting a little too “fired up about liberty.”
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You cut and pasted some idiotic list that's been going round the net on fringe sites. It's laughable. I already pointed out that whoever wrote it (Bruce Eden it would seem) apparently doesn't understand that disputes with the Federal Courts doesn't equal treason. Number 8 was especially stupid considering you could apply it to any administration. Any one can charge a President with not doing enough on the border, and of course they will argue otherwise. This is the kind of nonsense I'd expect a conspiracy nut to wave around.
Obama is an awful president, but there is a very high bar for someone to be charged with treason. Your list isn't even serious. Maybe go back to dodging Zionist chemtrails orchestrated by the "globalist" Bilderberg Group.
>>I don’t agree with Obama’s disturbingly enthusiastic support of the Muslim Brotherhood either, but those are policy differences. That’s not treason, it’s just bad decision making. <<
You’re wrong. Obama colluding with someone who is part of an organization that has openly called for the destruction of the United States IS treason and just not bad decision making.
Obama has committed treason. And not only in this case but several others.
Tell ya what... admit that you’re a lib troll here (it’s actually painfully obvious to anyone who has read your history on this thread), and I won’t bother correcting your inane statements or proving you to be a liar anymore.
You can be stealthy again...lol
>>Obama is an awful president, but there is a very high bar for someone to be charged with treason. Your list isn’t even serious.<<
Whether Obama is charged or not is irrelevant. Obama did commit treason. My list is serious. It’s all there in black and white. Get somebody to read it to you.
You realize the bulk of the foreign aid for Egypt will be passed by the Congress - that includes the Republican House. Are they all guilty of treason?
And you sound ridiculous spouting a dumb story from The Western Center for Journalism. Obama asking Morsi to broker a deal between Israel and Hamas is not treason you buffoon. Even the person that wrote that article made sure to say it was just treason in his book.
I mean, good grief, are you really this dumb? We do business with LOTS of countries and organizations that hate us, attack us, betray us, and otherwise don't have our best interests at heart. Obama is not treasonous for working with the Muslim Brotherhood. That is a policy issue, and one most Republicans seem content to go along with. Again, are all the House Republicans who are going to pass the military aid to Egypt traitors too?
Tell ya what... admit that you’re a lib troll here (it’s actually painfully obvious to anyone who has read your history on this thread),
I mean, I'm almost embarrassed for you here. You can't even talk about your support of Alex Jones and belief in nutty conspiracy theories because you know it isn't allowed on this or other responsible conservative websites. So you try to change the subject, but you come off just as dim no matter what is discussed.
It is MY opinion and in MY opinion and MY interpretation of the law he has committed treason.
Stolen from an earlier post:
You’re wrong. Obama colluding with someone who is part of an organization that has openly called for the destruction of the United States IS treason and just not bad decision making.
For the record, that is not what Jones says. He says Islamic terrorists (proxy) were used by nefarious globalist powers to hit the United States for reasons we can only surmise. (help consolidate power, get Americans to go along with much of the framework of a huge power grab that we see continuing today).
Sounds like a reasonable idea, IMO. Especially as we head towards global gov't at warp speed.
Yes, that's an opinion. You are not stating any fact about blue, just that you like it.
If you had said, "In my opinion bananas are blue", then you would be wrong. Sure you can have that opinion if you'd like, but hopefully you'd appreciate people pointing out that you are incorrect.
It is MY opinion and in MY opinion and MY interpretation of the law he has committed treason.
Sure you are welcome to interpret the law that way. You're wrong, but no one cant stop you from holding that opinion. Just be careful about repeating it among educated people who understand these things.
You’re wrong. Obama colluding with someone who is part of an organization that has openly called for the destruction of the United States IS treason and just not bad decision making.
Yes, what he said was stupid. Asking Morsi to broker a deal between Israel and Hamas is not treason. It's just not. We've done business with all sorts of leaders and countries that hate us. We've done it all through history, we're doing it now in various parts of the world, and will do it long into the future. That isn't treason. Republicans and Democrats are "colluding" with Pakistan to get stuff done. Pakistan hates us. That doesn't make it treason.
>>You realize the bulk of the foreign aid for Egypt will be passed by the Congress - that includes the Republican House.<<
You realize that nothing is official until Obama puts his pen to it? Since he is the final authority, per the U.S. Constitution, he is the one committing treason. Which he already did.
>>And you sound ridiculous spouting a dumb story from The Western Center for Journalism. Obama asking Morsi to broker a deal between Israel and Hamas is not treason you buffoon. Even the person that wrote that article made sure to say it was just treason in his book.<<
That’s because his book is the same as my book. The U.S. Constitution. You should read it sometime. And it is treason... you baffoon.
>>That is a policy issue, and one most Republicans seem content to go along with. Again, are all the House Republicans who are going to pass the military aid to Egypt traitors too? <<
You’re lying... again. Here’s how it first went down per the NYT.
U.S. Move to Give Egypt $450 Million in Aid Meets Resistance
By STEVEN LEE MYERS
Published: September 28, 2012 331 Comments
The Obama administration notified Congress on Friday that it would provide Egypt’s new government an emergency cash infusion of $450 million, but the aid immediately encountered resistance from a prominent lawmaker wary of foreign aid and Egypt’s new course under the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood.
An influential Republican lawmaker, Representative Kay Granger of Texas, immediately announced that she would use her position as chairwoman of the House appropriations subcommittee overseeing foreign aid to block the distribution of the money. She said the American relationship with Egypt “has never been under more scrutiny” than it is in the wake of the election of President Mohamed Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.
“I am not convinced of the urgent need for this assistance and I cannot support it at this time,” Ms. Granger said in a statement that her office issued even before the administration announced the package.”
Obama has comitted treason. I gave you a list of twelve. There are more.
My offer stands. Admit you’re a lib troll and I’ll leave you be.
We disagree.
That doesn’t make me incorrect.
Not in the least.
All these stooges care about is $$$ and sucking up to the nameless, faceless megadonors who finance the existence of the spineless and unprincipled at the top of the national party. Personally, I hope that Muffy loses her trust fund almighty and has to wait tables at the local diner. At least that will give her SOMETHING useful to do with her previously privileged life. If she is really lucky, she will be expelled from the Junior League for practicing manual labor.
I am and will continue to be uber PO'd at the current House "leadership" who arranged for a carpetbagger and Combiner from Chicagoland to be forced onto our rural Northwestern Illinois and verrrrry GOP district. They raised $600,000 in corrupt $$$$ from Texas construction contractors to defeat the best public official I have ever had or will ever have: Don Manzullo (IL-16) after 22 years of solid conservative service to this district and ITS PEOPLE and not for the corrupt K Street crowd. Manzullo's crime against the spineless stooges in "leadership" was to send Weepy John (sniffle, sniffle) a letter asking him to call Congress into session in December, 2012, simply to pass a resolution saying no more debt limit increases for Obozo. Well, the GOP-E were having none of that kind of attitude which might interfere with business as usual.
The carpetbagger is Adam Kinzinger, originally elected as a Tea Party Congressman from a district south of Chicago (over near Indiana but much more corrupt), Kinzinger promptly reported for duty and donned his kneepads to relate to the GOP "Leaders." Like them, he is nothing but a whore and he will never be anything but a whore. Hopefully he will be primaried out of his nomination. If that does not work, then he should have a third party conservative castrate him politically even if it means a temporary Demonrat Congressthing from one of the most Republican districts in the country. A Demonrat had the seat for 2 years in the last 50.
Alas, I am no longer young but I once was. I was a state officer of a Libertarian Party when I was in law school. I thought I favored abortion being legal (but would not resort to it personally) until I actually read Roe vs. Wade as soon as it was decided. If that was the best argument that Herod Blackmun could muster for legalizing abortion, then there simply was NO argument worth hearing in favor of abortion. I resigned from Libertarian Party office when many Libertarians were reluctant to oppose abortion. They have as little influence today as they did forty years ago. Drugs, abortion and antiwar nonsense are simply not a viable platform. Young people also grow up and become more socially conservative.
In the next election, I was the GOP Congressional nominee. Along the way, I chaired College Republicans, Young Republicans, Young Americans for Freedom and Ronald Reagan's challenge to Gerald Ford in 1976, all in my then home state and served on the YR and CR national committees.
I was libertarian then and so were most of my recruits. Almost none favored abortion once they were properly introduced to the horrific rationale of Roe vs. Wade for baby-killing.
I disagree with many people here on outreach to minority voters. To the best of my knowledge, my English, Irish, German and Scottish/Scots Irish (by way of Canada) ancestors entered this country without "papers" or permission from any poobah. I am a Catholic and I have every confidence that Mexican and other Latino voters can and should be successfully approached on social issues. Social issues are the part of the GOP platform that finds ready acceptance among Latinos. If the brand name "Republican" were not soooooo damaged among blacks due to the usual ham-fisted stupidity and absolute tin ear of the GOP-E, many blacks also agree with us on social issues. Both groups are amenable to free enterprise and economic freedom so long as they don't think of Republicans as seeing minorities only as potential prisoners.
Young people will always be more libertarian but will grow out of it as they age, as they have children of their own, etc. The GOP-E passionately support abortion a) as a means of cutting down population growth among minorities who might want to tax them and b) as a reserved opportunity for Muffy not to disgrace the Pecksniffian family name.
The GOP would also do well to attack the Demonrats on Social Security for draining the mountain of money paid in SS taxes to fund each and every corrupt Demonrat special interest. Hold their feet to the fire. Make them explain to the young how Social Security can possibly be there for them when they retire given its financial condition and the absolute refusal of the Obozos, the Reeds, the Pelosis, et al. to even admit there is a problem. Will it be necessary to raise FICA taxes to 20% for employer and another 20% per employee to save the SS system? Will the libs take general revenues and pour them into SS? Ditto Medicare.
Does this nation need a military second to none and well equipped to crush any threat to our country? Yes, it does whatever El Run Paulie may hallucinate. Blunderbusses, rowboats and three-cornered hats with plastic propellers on top won't cut it. Nor will a perversion ridden rank and file in the military. Give the "gays" a pass on military service and let the actual men do the fighting when necessary.
The GOP needs to make a career out of outreach to Catholics. The GOP seldom gets a majority of the Catholic vote as it did under Nixon and Reagan. Why would any Catholics worthy of the name want to vote GOP when they would not be caught dead at any social event where Bush the Elder would be comfortable or Mitt Romney for that matter. When Obozo and Sebelius and Pelosi were cramming abortion and birth control funding down the throat of the Roman Catholic Church and other churches of similar views in Obozocare, did we hear a peep out of Bush the Elder, out of James Baker, out of Howard Baker, out of Nancy Landon Kassebaum Baker, out of almost any of the GOP-E???? Of course not, the issue meant nothing to the trust fund and investment portfolio set whom they worship.
Don't be so sure that "we" are in agreement on domestic issues other than social issues. Or that any agreement that may exist has much excitement to offer. At my age, I am livid at Obozo for the miserable COLAs that we SS recipients have suffered lately. 1.7% (less increases in Medicare premiums and Supplemental insurance). In 2013, I am $15 per month lighter than in 2012. Gasoline? Food? Insurance? State and local taxes? 1.7% less increased Medicare premiums???? Really???
It is often a good idea to coalesce around a candidate rather than to seek some united front on issues. Nixon was a whore but worth voting for against McGovern. Reagan was a general delight. Let the issue groups recruit and build movements. "Republicans" for babykilling will get about as far as "Republicans" for gun control.
We know what many (most?) Republicans believe as to issues and it is not a bad mix. We need more issue promotion 24/7/365 by the issue groups. We need an attack machine to exceed that of the Demonrats (as Andrew Breitbart was building). We need to send our candidates into the ghetto and barrio and everywhere else in this country to LISTEN and to persuade and to socialize with ordinary folks. We need to foster a renaissance of employment for ordinary folks. We need GOP candidates at factory gates (if any are left in business). We need to stimulate patriotism and nationalism and respect for the military and their job. We need to gather together the religious conservatives of this country of whatever denomination and mount a full-scale assault on secular humanism. We need to be the party that will force colleges and universities to live within the means of ordinary folks and to be accountable as to curriculum.
Can we break the stranglehold of public skewels and teachers' unions over primary and secondary edumakashun and its pathetic results? Break the chokehold of colleges and universities in credentialing folks for future employment? Dissolve the maze of often useless regulations and exorbitant fees that prevents entry into many lines of work without paying tribute and $50 grand a year to leftist "higher ed" teachers and schools? I could write a book as many her could but you get the idea.
I have no use whatsoever for Ron Paul but so far his son Senator Rand Paul has proven a far savvier leader and a far more credible potential POTUS candidate. I would not blame him for his father's sins against sanity. Marco Rubio may make a great candidate for POTUS. He has a great biography and appeal beyond narrow party confines. Ted Cruz ditto. Look hard at Tim Scott, South Carolina's new senator. Nikki Haley and Susan Martinez as well. Maybe if we nominate people like these instead if unprincipled and boring old business farts like Mittler with no principles and no fire, just maybe, we could do a lot better with the voters.
Want something really exciting??? How about the GOP getting 75% of the Catholic vote when Catholics are convinced against instinct that Republicans just may be the real deal, may care whether they live or die, really care about helping poor people to achieve (by their own hard work) the American Dream, care about babies, marriage, guns, and religious freedom. Then we can agree on getting rid of an awful lot of expensive wasteful gummint and stupefying regulations. Muffy's trust fund may have to be put on hold as a priority for a while but it will be well worth it.
Look tardbilly, if Congress passes a bill and Obama signs it, how do you figure it's just treason for Obama and not the legislatures that also approved it. We have 3 coequal branches of government you moron. By your standard Congress is guilty of treason for voting for aid to Egypt.
That’s because his book is the same as my book. The U.S. Constitution. You should read it sometime. And it is treason... you baffoon.
No sane person thinks that's treason. Obama is most certainly allowed to ask Morsi to broker deals. He can also ask the government of Pakistan to broker deals, or the any other hostile government.
You’re lying... again. Here’s how it first went down per the NYT.
Listen bonehead, that money was already appropriated by Congress:
The $1 billion in assistance has been cobbled together from funds already appropriated by Congress, but the administration is required to notify lawmakers of its intention to release any of the funds.
Do you understand what that means dingbat? Congress approved of Obama spending that money, which is why you don't hear anyone in Congress calling it treason. Your own article proves you wrong.
Further the bulk of the money that goes to Egypt is from the regular foreign aid bill. It's around 2 billion with approximately 1.3 billion in military assistance. Congress approves that every year, and will continue to approve that for the foreseeable future. There is no treason there.
My offer stands. Admit you’re a lib troll and I’ll leave you be.
Every time you post and I destroy your arguments, it just proves my point that conspiracy theorists like you have nothing serious to add to the debate. When I find you people I kind of enjoy highlighting your idiocy. That's kind of why I've let you change the subject and avoid talking about your support for Alex Jones and belief in truther conspiracies. Every movement has rotten apples, and it's important to show why folks like you need to be weeded out.
>>Look tardbilly, if Congress passes a bill and Obama signs it, how do you figure it’s just treason for Obama and not the legislatures that also approved it. We have 3 coequal branches of government you moron. By your standard Congress is guilty of treason for voting for aid to Egypt.<<
Look tardbilly... I just told you. Obama is the final authority. If Congress passes a bill and Obama doesn’t sign it, does it become law?
>>No sane person thinks that’s treason. Obama is most certainly allowed to ask Morsi to broker deals. He can also ask the government of Pakistan to broker deals, or the any other hostile government.<<
You wrong and insane. In fact, it is treason. And I provided you with a list of others.
>>The $1 billion in assistance has been cobbled together from funds already appropriated by Congress, but the administration is required to notify lawmakers of its intention to release any of the funds.
Do you understand what that means dingbat? Congress approved of Obama spending that money, which is why you don’t hear anyone in Congress calling it treason. Your own article proves you wrong. <<
Hey, dingbat ... “The $1 billion in aid, announced by Mr. Obama in May 2011, was initially intended to relieve Egypt’s debts to the United States, though negotiations stalled during the country’s turbulent transition from military rule to the election of Mr. Morsi this summer.”
You see dingbat, it was announced BEFORE Morsi took over..... dingbat.
>>Further the bulk of the money that goes to Egypt is from the regular foreign aid bill. It’s around 2 billion with approximately 1.3 billion in military assistance. Congress approves that every year, and will continue to approve that for the foreseeable future. There is no treason there.<<
Morsi didn’t take control until last summer. When he did, Obama’s signature makes it treason.
>>Every time you post and I destroy your arguments, it just proves my point that conspiracy theorists like you have nothing serious to add to the debate. When I find you people I kind of enjoy highlighting your idiocy.<<
You haven’t destroyed anything. I’ve outed you as an Obama supporter on FreeRepublic. Have you noticed you’re not getting much help around here?... lol
My offer stands. Admit you’re a lib troll and I’ll leave you be. You can be stealthy again.
No, Obama's an equal authority. The legislative branch is equal to the executive. Congress can't pass a bill, wait for the President to sign it and then charge him with treason. You don't even understand how the government works.
You wrong and insane. In fact, it is treason. And I provided you with a list of others.
That's not treason ding dong. The only people that think that's treason are fringe nutters.
You see dingbat, it was announced BEFORE Morsi took over..... dingbat.
It doesn't matter when Morsi took over, it isn't treason to work with him. It isn't treason to work with Pakistan's government, it wasn't treason to work with the Soviet Union on various things when they were our arch enemy. The Congress (that's the legislative branch in case you didn't know) will continue to support economic and military support for Egypt, Obama will sign those bills, and we will continue our relationship with Egypt for probably years (maybe decades) to come. There's no treason in that. It's bad policy, but certainly not treason.
Have you noticed you’re not getting much help around here?... lol
Umm, most people don't want to talk to crazy conspiracy theorists like yourself. You're not making coherent arguments and refuse to discuss your support of Alex Jones and your loopy truther beliefs. But you see I know you're type. I know you hate being called out for the foul and disgusting conspiracy nonsense you advance. You and I both know reputable conservative sites ban people like you when they're found linking and quoting nutbars like Alex Jones. Like I said before, every movement has rotten apples, and 9-11 truthers like yourself are the most foul of the bunch.
Yes, I agree. But what we really don't know yet is whether Rand is truly his own person with real policy differences with his father, or whether he is just concealing the nuttier stuff that would have prevented him from getting elected to state wide office. Just the other day Rand was talking about cutting aid to Israel, but he tends to package the argument differently than his Dad. Rand tries to make it sound like we'd be doing Israel a favor. Though if you ask Israel they don't see it that way and want the continued aid. I like a lot of what Rand has done so far (though I totally disagree with him on Israel and believe we should continue support), but I have sneaking suspicious he probably will end up being very much like his father - and will end up taking over the RP Liberty Movement since his Dad is too old for it at this point.
I think it's going to be telling whether Rand disassociates himself with the conspiracy nuts. Ron Paul never disowns the truthers and assorted wackadoodles, and as a result they tend to gravitate to him and become a part of his coalition. If Rand makes it clear that truthers and the like are not welcome in his movement, it will signal that he is putting together something far more serious that could attract real mainstream support.
>>No, Obama’s an equal authority. The legislative branch is equal to the executive. Congress can’t pass a bill, wait for the President to sign it and then charge him with treason. You don’t even understand how the government works.<<
Under Article II of the Constitution, the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws created by Congress.
Do you see the word RESPONSIBLE?
re·spon·si·ble
Adjective
1. Having an obligation to do something as part of a job or role.
2. Being the primary cause of something and so able to be blamed or credited for it.
That’s why everybody blames Clinton for NAFTA even though most (if not all) republicans supported it.
Your quip about Congress would only apply if EVERY member of Congress voted unanimously for a bill and then the President signed it.
>>That’s not treason ding dong. The only people that think that’s treason are fringe nutters. <<
Your opinion is wrong. The U.S. Constitution is correct. Technically, Obama has comitted treason. I have provided you with a list.
>>It doesn’t matter when Morsi took over, it isn’t treason to work with him. There’s no treason in that. It’s bad policy, but certainly not treason. <<
Colluding with someone who is part of an organization that has openly called for the destruction of the United States amounts to treason. I have provided you with a list of others.
>>Umm, most people don’t want to talk to crazy conspiracy theorists like yourself.<<
I’m sure they must thank you for carrying their water... lol
Face it dude, I’ve outed you as an Obama supporter on FreeRepublic . You’re now the third rail and you just keep digging yourself in deeper.
All I can say is, I hope your skills have a broader reach than even FR. YOU are a master at expression and it’s a crime not to be used across the land, especially at the university level where your brains and sound mind can be mixed with the brawn and verve in young adults, for the sake of the future and freedom.
On your opinion of today’s Libertarian “platform” I would like to hear more, because I am interested in their take-no-prisoners tactics and agree with their approach to shaking up the Republican Establishment, from the caucus level to state conventions.
What you say about their abortion stand has to become proLife, but even a hawk, as I have been, have run that course to its end, leaving me cold on exhausting our military abroad. In fact, it is beginning to dawn on me that our military is purposely being kept out of our country, with no ride home. Is that too conspiratorial?
I am beginning to consider the US is in the same damned state of affairs as that compound was in Benghazi, if you get my drift.
I love to read your stuff, as I suspect do many, many others.
That’s why everybody blames Clinton for NAFTA even though most (if not all) republicans supported it.
Everybody doesn't blame Clinton for NAFTA. It was largely negotiated under Bush Sr's term, and he took a lot of heat for it. An entire Canadian election was fought over it. And in the United States every House member and Senator that voted for the law had to defend it - especially in rust belt states where it tended to be very unpopular. Lots of congresscritters lost their seat over that vote.
Technically, Obama has comitted treason. I have provided you with a list.
No, technically Obama has not committed treason. This is why you don't hear any serious conservatives making the accusation. The bar is very high for treason, and there isn't anything in the public domain that indicates Obama could be charged for it. Bad President? Yes. Treasonous. Not likely (at least that we know of). And your list completely absurd. Much of the stuff on that dopey list are disputes with various courts, and that isn't treasonous.
Face it dude, I’ve outed you as an Obama supporter on FreeRepublic . You’re now the third rail and you just keep digging yourself in deeper.
I've seen you're type here come and go. I was here before you, and I'll be here long after you can't resist posting some Alex Jones nonsense and getting suspended or banned. I stand by all my comments, you have to hide from yours for fear of being called out as the sick truther that you are. But your not just a truther, you're a certified nutter who is also wasting bandwidth on FR pushing twisted Sandy Hook conspiracies among others.
>>LOL, you’re such an idiot. You can’t pass a piece of legislation through Congress and then accuse/charge the President with treason for signing and executing it.<<
Yes, it could be done and I just explained how... idiot.
>>Everybody doesn’t blame Clinton for NAFTA.<<
Everybody does blame Clinton for NAFTA because he signed the bill.... idiot. He could have vetoed it and forced the republicans to override... idiot.
>>No, technically Obama has not committed treason.<<
Yes, technically Obama has committed treason. I provided you with a list.
>>I’ve seen you’re type here come and go. I was here before you, and....<<
So what? You’re an Obama supporter troll. It’s obvious. Don’t get mad bro.
This is just stupid stuff your spewing out. What do you think, the legislative branch is going to try to trap Obama into treason? Can you possibly be this dumb?
Everybody does blame Clinton for NAFTA because he signed the bill.... idiot. He could have vetoed it and forced the republicans to override... idiot.
See, you fail to understand the 3 co-equal branches of government. See that word co-equal matters. Every legislator that voted for NAFTA is responsible for its enactment. In fact, Clinton never lost his job over it, lost of congresscritters did. So you're wrong yet again.
Yes, technically Obama has committed treason. I provided you with a list.
You provided me with a joke list, and then couldn't defend anything on it. I doubt you even understand that executive disputes with the courts aren't treason.
So what? You’re an Obama supporter troll. It’s obvious. Don’t get mad bro.
You're a truther man, which is politically about as sick and twisted as one can be. As I can see from the Sandy Hook thread you were recently on, you won't be able to resist spouting some bizarre new conspiracies that serious conservatives want nothing to do with. That's why your type typically gets suspended/banned at every serious forum you go to.
>>You provided me with a joke list, and then couldn’t defend anything on it. I doubt you even understand that executive disputes with the courts aren’t treason.<<
Executive disputes? What are you talking about?
Look... if a crime is committed and the cops catch the guy but the victim decides not to press charges it doesn’t mean that a crime wasn’t committed.
Use your inane retarded logic to explain what would even cause something to reach the point of an “Executive dispute”.
It wasn’t a joke list. It is serious and factual. Obama has committed treason and you have failed your lib masters.
Here it is again for your enjoyment.
Obama’s Acts of Treason:
1. Perpetrating acts of fraud, perjury and conspiracy in his refusal to confirm his lawful eligibility to serve as president under the U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 1, constituting impeachable offenses of high crimes and misdemeanors adumbrated in U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 4;
2. Surrendering sovereign U.S. war-making to foreign powers and international authorities by attacking Libya without consulting Congress, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 8 and U.S. Code Title 50, r 33:1541-1548;
3. Accepting foreign title and office while acting as U.S. President and without consulting Congress when in 2009, Obama assumed the Chairmanship of the UN Security Council, the international body responsible for declaring war on behalf of the UN, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 9;
4. Making bribery attempts in word and in deed, as Obama administration offered bribes to at least three Federal candidates for office: Joe Sestak, Andrew Romanoff and Jim Matheson, in violation of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 201;
5. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to halt the unconstitutional implementation of the “Patient Healthcare and Affordable Care Act of 2010, popularly known as “ObamaCare”, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections 1 & 2;
6. Defying a Federal Court Order by refusing to grant lawful deep water drilling permits, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and Article III, Sections 1 & 2;
7. Executive Branch creation and implementation of regulations asserting unconstitutional force of Federal law on matters explicitly rejected by or contrary to the will and intent of Congress, specifically the EPA implementation of Cap and Trade, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 1 and Section 8;
8. Refusing to secure our broken borders from illegal alien invasion, international criminal incursion, and terrorist cadre penetration, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3 and Article IV, Section 4;
9. Executive Branch malfeasance and impeding the administration of justice by preventing the U.S. Department of Justice from investigating crimes committed for the direct benefit of the President by presidential associates including: voter intimidation at the hands of the New Black Panthers and ACORN election fraud, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3, and U.S. Criminal Code Section 135, (Comp. St. § 10305);
10. Direct mobilizing and funding of mob violence, sedition and insurrection, as witnessed in Wisconsin, by the President’s own reelection campaign group Organizing for America, and including open statements of incitement to the insurrection by the President himself, in violation of U.S.Penal Code, Chapter 115, Section 2383;
11. Executive Branch usurpation of lawmaking powers voiding duly enacted legislation of Congress by improperly preventing the U.S. Department of Justice from defending established Federal law – specifically the Defense of Marriage Act, in violation of U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 3;
12. Adhering to the enemies of the United States, giving them aid and comfort, as witnessed by consorting with, supporting and installing to powerful Federal positions persons who in writing, word and deed have called for and promoted the overthrow of America’s constitutionally guaranteed Republican form of government, and the overthrow of the United States Constitution; including but not limited to William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Cass Sunstein, John Holdren, Van Jones, Dalia Mogahed, Harold Koh, and Eric Holder, in violation of U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section IV and U.S. Penal Code, Section 2385.
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