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Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists
Yahoo News ^ | 1/15/2013 | Yahoo News

Posted on 01/15/2013 3:33:14 PM PST by Dallas59

A man who found six children in his driveway in Newtown, Conn., after their teacher had been shot and killed in last month's school massacre has become the target of conspiracy theorists who believe the shootings were staged.

“I don’t know what to do,” Gene Rosen told Salon.com. “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘How much am I being paid?'”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; guns; kooks; sandyhook; shooting
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To: Boogieman

LOL chill, I just said WTF why is this guy laughing before he goes on camera and starts making up fake tears once he got on camera? If someone I knew died, why would I be giggling?


61 posted on 01/16/2013 11:25:30 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The posted web site date was probably from a correctly set system, because it was picked up by google’s caching the next day. That verified that it was posted BEFORE the shootings. Capiche?


62 posted on 01/16/2013 12:04:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Where are you seeing that the “posted web site date” was picked up by google’s caching the next day? What evidence do you have that the posted web site date for the fundraising page (December 11) came from a different source than the posted web site dates for the other pages (July, Sept, Oct)?


63 posted on 01/16/2013 12:22:49 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Dallas59

conspiracy theorists = knuckle dragging idiots.


64 posted on 01/16/2013 12:24:08 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Also, if the Sandy Hook shooting was part of some massive conspiracy, why would the United Way be involved? Why would they, of all people, have prior knowledge of the shooting? And if they had prior knowledge of the shooting, why would they risk blowing the whole damn conspiracy by posting a website about it two days in advance?
65 posted on 01/16/2013 12:25:49 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

United Way is nothing but a money grab to fund every org that promises to destroy our culture.

Sandy Hook is obviously something they would not want to miss out on.

Those that give to UW are idiots.


66 posted on 01/16/2013 12:36:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The dates that show are from the system clocks of the machines that posted the page. They can be right or wrong.

The date on the caches comes from google’s servers, which are most likely exactly correct for the time zone where they are located, like FR’s Dates.


67 posted on 01/16/2013 12:42:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The dates that show are from the system clocks of the machines that posted the page. They can be right or wrong.
The date on the caches comes from google’s servers, which are most likely exactly correct for the time zone where they are located, like FR’s Dates.

And where are you seeing that the UW page was cached befor the shooting?

68 posted on 01/16/2013 12:49:38 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: editor-surveyor
Also, see this example of another mistaken Google date, which happened to be rather costly. The point is, the dates next to Google search results are notoriously unreliable.
69 posted on 01/16/2013 12:56:37 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The date was proven to be correct by viewing the cache date.

Give up.


70 posted on 01/16/2013 12:58:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
And here is an article with a response from Google:

“This is a technical glitch on our end,” the engineer wrote. “[T]he date Google’s search engine first ‘saw’ the page was 12/14/2012 at 6:58pm. (We’re looking into a fix, but it may take some weeks.)”

71 posted on 01/16/2013 12:59:17 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: editor-surveyor
The date was proven to be correct by viewing the cache date.

And I have asked you, three times now, to show where the "cache date" shows that the site was posted before Dec. 14. Do you have a screenshot of this cache date? Or should I just take your word for it?

72 posted on 01/16/2013 1:03:01 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
It’s WHO was behind the massacre and evidence conveniently destroyed (computer hard drive) as to WHO Adam was corresponding with that MUST be questioned here.

The Columbine killers destroyed their hard drives as well. Not really an unusual action.

73 posted on 01/16/2013 1:12:55 PM PST by Drew68
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To: max americana

I think it’s pretty ridiculous to be making speculations like that about a grieving parent who is appearing in the media spotlight, unless you’ve walked in their shoes. I have no idea how I would react in that situation, I don’t think that you do either, even if you think that you can predict that.


74 posted on 01/16/2013 1:19:18 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: editor-surveyor
The posted web site date was probably from a correctly set system, because it was picked up by google’s caching the next day. That verified that it was posted BEFORE the shootings.

Nope. The date listed is not the date Google spidered the page.

It's the date Google's indexing algorithm decided to assign to the page. Figuring out page dates is not one of Google's stronger points. But, to be fair, it's a hard problem, given web authors can put whatever they want on a page. Actually, it might be nice if Google would actually let you select on the cache date. But they don't, as far as I know.

You encounter this problem whenever somebody relatively obscure suddenly finds himself very much in the news for whatever reason. The natural impulse is to do a Google search on the person with a date restriction ending just before the newsworthy incident, in hopes of avoiding all the redundant news accounts, blog posts, and tweets and actually turning up something worth knowing about before it gets scrubbed. However, because of its imperfections, Google's date filtering rarely cuts down the clutter enough to be helpful. In such cases, I find myself turning to Yandex, where their bug — less frequent spidering — becomes a feature. They don't have the clutter simply because they haven't yet got around to sucking it into their engine.

75 posted on 01/16/2013 1:38:19 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: AppyPappy
If you are detained and released, they usually do not give your name unless it was previously released.

Just to confirm. You don't know who the guy was who was chased past the school buildings and into the woods where he was taken into custody. It happened. We saw it. It could have been anyone. A homeless bum. A person soliciting a minor. A patsy's handler with very high connections. Nobody seems to be curious about this guy, and that's very odd.

Hey, whatever happened to all Lanza'a email contacts? Those aren't stored on his hard drive so smashing his hard drive shouldn't prevent discovery. It will be interesting to find out who and what he was talking about prior to the shooting, don't you agree?

I'm also curious to find out why nobody in the media is asking about surveillance camera footage from the school. Aren't you?

76 posted on 01/16/2013 1:47:16 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

The VT gunman destroyed his hard drive as well. What were they hiding?


77 posted on 01/16/2013 3:03:32 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: cynwoody

Don’t be stupid, the way back machine can only pick up what really was “way back.”

The caches have dates recorded.


78 posted on 01/16/2013 3:40:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The caches have dates recorded.

So let's see it. Let's see this elusive December 11 cache date for the Sandy Hook United Way page. You keep bringing it up. So, go on - prove it. Unless you are completely full of s**t and/or trolling, that is.

79 posted on 01/16/2013 3:49:34 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Stop being insipid.

Do the wayback yourself, you wouldn’t accept anyone else’s work anyway.


80 posted on 01/16/2013 6:39:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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