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Why Are the Feds Loading Up On So Much Ammo?
Investor Business Daily ^ | February 8, 2013 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 02/09/2013 9:26:32 AM PST by lbryce

In a puzzling, unexplained development, the Obama administration has been buying and storing vast amounts of ammunition in recent months, with the Department of Homeland Security just placing another order for an additional 21.6 million rounds.

Several other agencies of the federal government also began buying large quantities of bullets last year. The Social Security Administration, for instance, not normally considered on the frontlines of anything but dealing with seniors, explained that its purchase of millions of rounds was for special agents' required quarterly weapons qualifications. They must be pretty poor shots.

But DHS has been silent about its need for numerous orders of bullets in the multiple millions. Indeed, Examiner writer Ryan Keller points out Janet Napolitano's agency illegally redacted information from some ammunition solicitation forms following media inquiries.

According to one estimate, just since last spring DHS has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm. That's sufficient firepower to shoot every American about five times. Including illegal immigrants.

To provide some perspective, experts estimate that at the peak of the Iraq war American troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month. At that rate, DHS is armed now for a 24-year Iraq war.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammo; confrontation; obama; obamaishitler
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To: lbryce

To kill Americans.

It’s not rocket science.


81 posted on 02/09/2013 3:44:49 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: illiac

It is simple supply and demand...
Make the supply smaller...price goes up...

You could be right. Or they could be drying up every possible supply line out there while they try to ban ammunition altogether. Keeping the store shelves empty keeps shooters from restocking and when a few boxes pop up they empty our wallets with the extreme high prices. I really think it is a play to buy time for the effort to ban ammo. Then as soon as they get a ban in place they will destroy the billion or so rounds they have in stock because bullets are evil.


82 posted on 02/09/2013 3:59:20 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: envisio

The latest Cheaper than Dirt sale magazine doesn’t even list ammo prices.


83 posted on 02/09/2013 4:12:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: IMR 4350

Yep...Hollow point is not training ammo.


84 posted on 02/09/2013 4:15:13 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Montana Gold was supposed to have .223/5.56 projectiles in stock some time this month

At gun broker.com they seem to have lots of .223....At .75 cents a round...OUCH.!!

85 posted on 02/09/2013 4:34:38 PM PST by unread
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To: PAR35
"Checked the local Walmart yesterday. They had some 12 and 20 for shotguns, looked like it was mostly birdshot, about 5 boxes of 410 left, and some 7mm. All the other shelves were empty"

Tell you what, whenever we get this jack legged SOB out of office, there is going to be one helluva lot of ammo in this country...Assuming we don't burn it all up defending our liberty...

I ordered some 357sig and 3 bricks of .22 from cabela's in late dec. I got the sig this week and an e-mail saying the .22 may be here at the end of feb...

86 posted on 02/09/2013 4:51:48 PM PST by unread
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To: unread

That sounds like the cost of a full round ammunition, and expensive too. I am just looking for bullets. I already have brass, primers and powder. M193 bullets should be around 9 cents each. M885 should be about 10 cents each..


87 posted on 02/09/2013 4:52:20 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: flamberge

Lots of things to think about there... Very well put...Thank you...


88 posted on 02/09/2013 5:13:56 PM PST by unread
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To: lbryce

Your enemy will carry to you all the weapons you need to defeat him - Mao Tsetung.


89 posted on 02/09/2013 5:15:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Farmer Dean

“Well,Mr DHS .40 shooter-meet Mr .308 marksman.Good luck,you’re sure gonna need it.”

Unlike most folks here, I actually stopped in at the local social security office and timed how long it takes these bureaucrats to act.

My data shows that they move very slowly, and it takes them five to ten weeks to move a document.

I extrapolated my data and calculate that the social security Rambos will shoot one bullet every two weeks. Based on the 1.2 billion rounds they bought, it will take them 4.5 billion years to shoot off their ammo stash.


90 posted on 02/09/2013 5:32:42 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Texas Fossil

casting... eh... I don’t know. I don’t like the idea of lead fouling my very expensive barrels.


91 posted on 02/11/2013 6:28:29 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: envisio

fouling with cast bullets?

If you cast a mixture of wheel weights, tin and lead (in the right proportions) and water quench them it is not much of a problem. Especially if you keep the velocity under 1900 fps. You can also use linotype lead mixed with pure lead and tin too.

The lubricant for the lead is important too.

It is possible to electroplate copper on lead bullets. I have not done that.

But on the bright side, jacketed bullets are still available and there are a large number of companies that make them. Unlike the issue of brass, which is in exceedingly tight supply now.


92 posted on 02/11/2013 7:51:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I usually load Berrys FMJ for light target pistol loads. Other more expensive name brands like GoldDot for P+ self-defence loads. I got a box of Berrys 1000pcs .40cal 155gr round nose Friday for $118.99.

Thats after waiting in line outside of Hyatts in Charlotte. In the years past I could browse and strike up conversations with the staff. Now its a madhouse from open till close.

And I got the last box of .40 projectiles that had in any brand.


93 posted on 02/11/2013 8:14:46 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: envisio

Have you tried these swaged bullets?

http://www.precisionbullets.com/


94 posted on 02/11/2013 8:46:33 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I might try those... They are a little cheaper than the Berrys I got the other day. Those are 1000pc box of .40cal 155gr are $93. I paid $119 for jacketed, retail, no shipping.

But those will surely be kept in mind when the others run out. Thanks


95 posted on 02/11/2013 8:55:17 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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