Posted on 02/11/2013 12:50:46 PM PST by OKRA2012
A confrontation over a political sign and a community's Home Owners Association has occupied four years and nearly half a million dollars in legal fees.
(Excerpt) Read more at global.christianpost.com ...
“Sure they do! It’s because the buyers pay more for HOA residences, because they prefer them to alternatives.”
Odd. So why do I see so many ads boasting in large letters, “No HOA!!!” How come I never see one that says, “Our HOA kicks homeowner butts!”, or, “In OUR HOA, you can’t sneeze without the HOA’s approval!”
If HOAs sold, they’d...well, sell. And in some places, with high density housing and common areas, they probably make sense. In a place where the lots are 1-2 acres or more, they don’t make much sense.
HOAs are fascist.
Or developers and real estate agents do their best to keep owners ignorant until the contracts signed
“Actually, it’s a conservative principle...”
Did you actually read the article? The HOA way overstepped their power.
Buyers pay more? Hardly
You do.
Or more precisely, any person who decides to buy a house in a neighborhood that includes common property that needs to be managed for the entire community.
Sadly, whenever you enter into a partnership, there needs to be some form of control associated with the partnership.
The best way to avoid the tyranny of an HOA is to not move into an HOA neighborhood. You will be happier, and the people who like having shared property and some measure of control over the community will also be happier.
The second best way, if you move into an HOA community, is to run for office. Then you can be the benevolent representative you think people will want.
If the roof wasn’t too high, the approval letter is a great way to make sure your neighbors can’t complain about what you are doing.
Not me FRiend.
My point is what happens when the choice is removed and you have no alternative?
That's where this is heading, might take 30 years or so but that's where it's going.
Sadly, whenever you enter into a partnership, there needs to be some form of control associated with the partnership.
No, we have laws against wronging another, not the same as control.
The best way to avoid the tyranny of an HOA is to not move into an HOA neighborhood. You will be happier, and the people who like having shared property and some measure of control over the community will also be happier.
See my first point.
The second best way, if you move into an HOA community, is to run for office. Then you can be the benevolent representative you think people will want.
No thanks, I don't want to be corrupted, I would never get elected anyway because I am a "right wing extremest"
Shakespeare, Measure for Measure. Also Huxley
Shakespeare, Measure for Measure. Also Huxley
Actually, from the way the article reads, it appears the lawsuit was over the Association’s denial of the reroofing permit, not over the sign fine.
Apparently, really.
Years ago I was considering a house in a restricted neighborhood. When I as a matter of course and common sense asked the agent (a buyers’ agent, mind you!) for a copy of the HOA rules as I prepared to make an offer he expressed surprise — “no one’s ever asked for those before! you put your offer in first...”
No thanks.
Odd. So why do I see so many ads boasting in large letters, “No HOA!!!”
I live in FL. I’d say its like automatic transmissions in cars. I the vast majority of people didn’t want them, they wouldn’t be what the vast majority of people drive.
>>Who, grants HOA’s their power? <<
The homeowners who buy property that is listed HOA. STAY AWAY from HOA’s and you won’t ever have any trouble with the board.
The horror. End times are definitely upon us /sarc
What you want to do is buy a property that has at one time been sold under a tax lien ,,, tax sales quash all existing contracts including all powers of a HOA to control. This is nearly universal in the US as local governments want full control with no strings attached when they take a property.
“For new construction, buyers put a premium on sensible HOA restrictions, as the market demonstrates time and again.”
Nope. The studies I’ve seen indicate homes in an HOA sell for the same price as homes without, when controlled for region, age and style. At least here in Arizona, I’ve NEVER seen an ad boasting about having an HOA.
I think this HOA board has opened itself up to being sued.
To spend most or all of your reserves and even money needed for day to day operations is a pretty good indication that there were personal agendas and some big egos involved.
I know that I would sue the board and solicit others to join if the facts in this case are accurate.
I can’t imagine what the board was thinking to bankrupt itself over something so trivial and was essentially settled.
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