Posted on 04/04/2013 5:06:11 PM PDT by Nachum
The rulers are the moderates. The Wahhabis who form the vast majority of Saudi Arabia's population aren't protected by the Saudi government - they tolerate the government as long as it adheres to Wahhabism. The moment that changes, the Saudi royal family will need to find permanent new digs abroad. Iran's Shah flouted the religious norms of his people, and paid the price by spending the rest of his life in exile. The Saudi government paid us $36b for Operation Desert Storm, which we would have had to fight anyway, to keep Saddam (or any given Arab leader) from unifying all of the Gulf region's oil fields under a single leader.
The amusing thing is that the neocon interpretation of Middle Eastern affairs is not all that different from the liberal one - the view is that the people are the salt of the earth and the rulers are scum who should be toppled. The traditional conservative view is that the people of the Middle East are scum and the only thing holding these evil troglodytes back is their rulers, who try to curb the worst excesses in order to avoid having to engage in continuous war until the end of time.
As the Muslim population grows in America we will see the same things called for here.
"The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia -- the top Islamic official in the country of Saudi Arabia -- has declared that it is "necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.'" Nettleton goes on to note that the report hasn't surfaced anywhere except on the Council on Foreign Relations Web site, which was then picked up by The Atlantic.
Why are American Christians in that land of Satan? To help Saudis get filthy rich by running their oil industry...a classic case of serving Mammon instead of God.
You really believe Saudi Arabia is an ally?
Saudi Arabia is Muslim, and is the fount of Whabbism which is the foundation of Al Qaeda. It all leads back to Mecca. The only good thing about Islam is their predilection for killing each other. Other than that, its just a simple lying death cult that preys on the bottom half of the bell curve.
I think the movie Star Wars has corrupted, in the popular imagination, the definition of what an ally is. An ally is not a family member you defend no matter what. An ally is a country with which one cooperates in a common endeavor - each ally has its own reasons for the pact. We shielded the Saudi royals from Saddam to prevent the unification of Gulf oil and gas assets under a single ruler. We continue to defend Saudi Arabia and its neighbors from all regional enemies for the same reason - to prevent any future Saladins from attempting to unify the Middle Eastern ummah and the oil reserves they control. We also prevent Saudi Arabia from conquering its neighboring Arab states for the same reason. The Saudi royals like that we protect them from Iran and Iraq, but not that we prevent them from conquering Qatar, Bahrain and so on.
As allies go, the Saudi royals are infinitely better than many we've had - they paid us $36b for Desert Storm and import a lot of American products. Compare that to South Korea, which does tax audits on private individuals for buying American cars, among other scummy protectionist maneuvers, and steal American knowhow to manufacture domestic copies of US military equipment.
Its not an “ally”. Its an economic parasite feeding off the west.
Bingo!!
The Neutron Bomb was designed to deal with Muslims.
The survival of the depends on the expulsion of all Muslims.
In 1985 the Saudis convinced OPEC to open the spigots which helped crush the USSRâs economy (Their Caspian economy) coupled with a grain shortage. Saudi has not lived that moment (As well as others, but nothing that big) in time down which prompted Reagan, the Bush cabal, Clinton, and Obama to constantly kiss their asses.
****The Neutron Bomb was designed to deal with Muslims.****
And before that it was the .45ACP.
And before that it was the Puckle Gun with square shot.
USSRâs = USSR’s, not sure why spell check sometimes screws up the apostrophes.
This is very well and good, but countries have rulers, and the alternative to the current Saudi rulers is a Saudi version of Iran - a country run by imams. Mubarak's Egypt was ostensibly secular and 3/4 of Egyptians voted for Islamists and they are moderate in comparison to ordinary Saudis. Islamist zealots mounted multiple attempts on the lives of Nasser, Sadat and Mubarak, succeeding only in the case of Sadat. The thing that too many don't understand is that rulers of Muslim countries do not dictate their subjects' religious views. Four decades of pagan (Alawite) rule in Syria did nought to eradicate the Muslim Brotherhood that is now taking the lead in the rebellion. On religious issues, leaders in Muslim countries go with flow of what their citizens believe - to do otherwise is to invite assassination attempts and defenestration. Just as the alternative to Mubarak in Egypt is Morsi, the alternative to the Saudi royals in Saudi Arabia is a Sunni version of Khomeini.
>>Google USS STARK.
Google USS LIBERTY. No one in that region is our friend. All that matters is that someone keeps a lid on that nuthouse.
As atrocious as that sounds, probably is the most cost effective weapon for the stated purpose!
Good post, injecting some logic and wisdom into the issue.
I think we're nice to the Saudi royals because we're not thrilled with the idea of a Saudi version of Khomeini ruling the country, which is what would happen if elections were held there.
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