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Senator Toomey Betrays Gun Owners [ACT NOW!]
Gun Owners of America ^ | April 10, 2013 | GOA Staff

Posted on 04/10/2013 4:37:40 PM PDT by forty_years

Urgent action required. It is urgent that every gun owner call their Senators today and demand that they oppose the "See a Shrink, Lose your Guns" sell-out bill that is being authored by Senators Pat Toomey (R) and Joe Manchin (D) - but which also has Chuck Schumer's fingerprints all over it. Call senators immediately at 202-224-3121 and click here to send pre-written or free-form emails to senators about the Toomey/Manchin "compromise" (scroll to bottom to send).

See a Shrink, Lose your Guns. The anti-gun "ranters" have spent the last week telling us that Republican Senators can't filibuster Harry Reid's gun control bill; that they can't cut off debate to a bill they haven't seen yet. "Let the bill come up," they say. "We need to see the bill" before Senators can vote against cloture to proceed to it.

Well, we've seen the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer sell-out, and it's worse than the Feinstein gun ban, which will reportedly be tied to it and offered simultaneously in a Senate procedure known as an "amendment tree."

Toomey and Manchin will claim that their bill only covers "gun show sales" and Internet sales. But if you've ever talked about your gun and /or let it be known you'd like to sell or buy a gun on the Internet, this language covers you. If you advertise your gun in the church bulletin and the bulletin is put on the Internet, you're covered.

The only exemption is for sales that are sold exclusively by word of mouth. The increased number of background checks would likely exacerbate the system breakdowns (inherent to NICS) which have shut down gun shows over and over again. It would mean that Americans who were illegally denied firearms because their names were similar to other people's would effectively be barred from owning a gun. (We would never tolerate such delays for voting rights or other freedoms that we are guaranteed.)

And for those Republicans who think they're going to be able to offer their useless amendments, guess what? Reid is reportedly going to use a procedure to block out all amendments (called an "amendment tree"). And there are plenty of Senators standing in line to make sure that the Senate doesn't give "unanimous consent" to let those Republicans offer their amendments.

So if you live in a rural area, you're effectively barred from selling or buying a gun - or it at least becomes very, very difficult.

Incidentally, the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer "national registry" language is full of holes. There will be a national gun registry as a result of this sell-out.

But that's not the worst part. Under an amendment in the bill to HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act), you could have your guns taken away because your private shrink thinks you're "dangerous" and could send your name directly to the FBI Instant Check system.

Did you think it was terrible that 150,000 military veterans had been added into the NICS system because they'd seen a VA shrink about their PTSD? Well guess what? Now it's going to happen to the rest of the population ... by the millions!

And the next step, of course, will be to begin to sue psychiatrists that don't send every single patient's name to the Instant Check system, and to make sure that their lives are ruined if they don't send a patient to NICS and anything goes wrong.

The bottom line: "See a shrink; lose your guns."

All of this will reportedly be on an amendment tree with the Feinstein gun ban and magazine bans.

Repeal of gun owner protections. In addition, Toomey no doubt unintentionally agreed to repeal one of the most important protections for gun owners that was included in the 1986 McClure-Volkmer Act - the provision that would allow you to take an unloaded, locked-up gun through states like New York without being stopped. Under a new subsection (c), the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer bill would require you to "demonstrate" to the satisfaction of New York police where you were coming from and where you are going to. And, if you don't do that to their satisfaction, they can arrest you.

Please keep in mind, nothing in this bill would have stopped Newtown dirtbag from killing his mother and taking the firearms that she owned and perpetrating the horrible crimes that he committed.

Nothing is this bill would actually make children safer at schools. There is nothing that will actually keep bad guys from stealing or illegally acquiring guns, but there's plenty that will threaten our gun rights!

ACTION: Contact your two senators immediately. Tell them the "see a shrink; lose your guns" sellout is even worse than the Feinstein gun ban which will reportedly be on the same amendment tree with it. Distribute this alert far and wide.

Time is short, so if you call - at 202-224-3121 - you may click below to see the pre-written letter and use the contents to help direct your comments.

Click here to send your Senators a prewritten email message (scroll to bottom to send).


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; hipaa; republican; secondamendment; sellout; toomey; toomeyguns
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To: yongin

“Toomey figures that conservatives will get over the gun bill when he’s up for re-election in 2016.”

Wanna bet ??He’s TOAST!


21 posted on 04/10/2013 5:27:20 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: stilloftyhenight

Sent toomey this when i was redirected to a page with gun rights loaded as an option:Funny that Socialists, Communists, Fascists all use mental health to curtail human rights. Religious people are termed mentally ill these days. Anti-Depressants are prescribed for CHEMO Patients. Where do you live? in a dream world? allowing everyone’s HIPAA info out on the street. Great job. I’ll not be voting for you again.


22 posted on 04/10/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: RS_Rider

I have been saying it for years- We need a TEA Party
March on GOP HEADQUARTERS

(it used to be my tagline for like a year)


23 posted on 04/10/2013 5:32:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K

We have a year and a half to separate the gop from the Tea Party......Let’s get it done!


24 posted on 04/10/2013 5:40:49 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Axenolith

yep


25 posted on 04/10/2013 5:48:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: forty_years

I am a Pennsylvanian. We won’t be able to do anything about him till 2015. He is safe because we will have all forgotten this by the next primary. He knows this. That is why he can do this without worrying about the consequences.


26 posted on 04/10/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by Poor Richard (Industry, perseverance, and frugality make fortune yield. - Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: forty_years

I’m totally devastated by this. I worked on his first congressional campaign. He was 110% conservative. WTF happens when they become senators?


27 posted on 04/10/2013 5:54:53 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: forty_years

Remind Toomey that he’s No. 10 on the list of RINO traitors to be ostracized and shipped one-way to North Korea..


28 posted on 04/10/2013 5:56:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: hondact200
In Michigan we have a problem Comrade Stabenow and Comrade Levin are our useless senators.

Ditto here in Virginia... we have a pair of Stepford senaturds -- Mark Warner and Tim Kaine -- who vote exactly as Obama and the DNC direct.

29 posted on 04/10/2013 5:58:40 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: stevio
WTF happens when they become senators?

They start to feel left out of the action when no one extends an invite to the Beltway cocktail parties. From that point, their issue stances begin the "evolving" process.

30 posted on 04/10/2013 6:01:40 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

Ours aren’t any better. Stuart Smalley and The Witless Wonder, Amy Klobuchar — two senators who, if they were any dumber, would have to be watered twice a week.


31 posted on 04/10/2013 6:02:57 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: forty_years

Sandy Hook Elementary

First, there are already more than 20,000 gun control laws actively on the books today and none of them prevented this tragedy. Second, millions upon million of people in America own guns and 99.9999% of them have never and will never do anything like this.

So, let’s lose the hysteria and analyze the facts - a PERSON did this, NOT a hunk of steel. In Portland, a PERSON killed two people in the mall, NOT a hunk of steel! In Denver, a PERSON shot up the theater, NOT a hunk of steel!! In fact, NEVER in the history of violent crime has a weapon been arrested and charged with the crime, it’s always been the PERSON in control of the weapon!!!

NONE of these facts will matter to the gun-grabbing nanny-staters, because they focus solely on the gun and nothing else. So, what happens if ALL guns are outlawed and forcibly collected by the feds? Someone bent on committing mass murder may turn to knives, hatchets, chainsaws or machetes (see Lone Star Community College). So, we outlaw those. The next person to commit a heinous crime may use a bat, poison, poison gas or a semi-tractor. And the one after that may use a car, a pen or pencil, a rock, his hands . . . . . . so when do we blame the PERSON and NOT the inanimate weapon!???

The fact remains that until the left understands that murdering humans by ANY means including their favorite method, abortion, human life will be valueless and more copycats will come out to exercise their demented mass murder of innocent people.

All of that said, it occurs to me that the gun-grabbers are from the leftist school of complete control. What that means is that if 1 person commits a gun crime then, under the leftist theory of the “collective” and “groupthink”, they believe that ALL gun owners will commit mass murder unless they eliminate guns (good luck with that!). So, the calls for more gun control by the left after these incidents is twofold - eliminate the “balance of power” the Founding Fathers so carefully wove into the Constitution and gain total control over the people.

Another part that affects all of this is the fact that laws, whether gun laws, robbery laws, or whatever, are written solely to affect law-abiding citizens. People who commit crimes are called “outlaws” and criminals because they DON’T adhere to the laws created to control or stop their illegal activities.

So, should the left create additional gun control laws, will it prevent the next gun-related crime? Of course not. Laws only affect those of us who obey them. Those who disregard the law won’t be stopped from committing whatever crime they want to commit.

As a final note, Adam Lanza did not own the guns he used to murder all of the people at Sandy Hook Elementary. The existing gun laws worked to prevent him from purchasing a firearm when he attempted to do so only days before. The guns he used were his mother’s guns and they were all legally purchased and registered. Which begs the question, what will any NEW gun control laws accomplish?

And, if “universal Background” checks are good for the law-abiding citizens of this country, why aren’t they satisfactory for the POTUS, members of Congress and SCOTUS nominees??

(Inquiring minds . . . . . . . . )


32 posted on 04/10/2013 6:09:48 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: forty_years

We don’t need more laws. Any new law will be a step in the direction of a full gun ban.

Period!


33 posted on 04/10/2013 6:14:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: stevio

They get to washington and discover all the lobbyists. They sell their soul.


34 posted on 04/10/2013 6:15:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: forty_years

Freepers don’t just sit there and think..act. Send Toomey an email and post to his Facebook account.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 6:15:36 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: DustyMoment

Toomey’s Mailbox is full and his fax number doesn’t answer. If he were really concerned about the little people I would think he would at least have one staff person working in his office this evening.

I also tried to contact his office earlier in the day and received the same “no” response - all of his staff were on other phone lines.


36 posted on 04/10/2013 6:18:30 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ansel12

Thank you Lord for Santorum!!!!!! Get rid of that liberal Toomey....perhaps the worst senator in Pennsylvania ever.


37 posted on 04/10/2013 6:28:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: stevio
He was 110% conservative. WTF happens when they become senators?

Obviously he never was conservative and just pretended to be one during his rise to power.

38 posted on 04/10/2013 6:38:59 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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39 posted on 04/10/2013 6:40:50 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: napscoordinator
Thank you Lord for Santorum!!!!!! Get rid of that liberal Toomey....perhaps the worst senator in Pennsylvania ever.

Worse than Specter? That is why you support Santorum supporting Specter even in the 2010 election?

I can see someone wanting to replace Toomey with someone more conservative, but how can you love Arlen Specter so much?

It is your support for Specter over Toomey that is weird.

40 posted on 04/10/2013 6:53:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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