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The Controversial Moment SWAT Teams Ordered Innocent Neighbors Out Of Their Houses At GUNPOINT
Mail Online ^ | April 23, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 04/23/2013 2:20:24 PM PDT by Biggirl

A startling home-made video now shows the terrifying moments where Watertown residents were forced out of their homes at gunpoint as SWAT teams performed door-to-door searches as they hunted the second marathon bomber. While millions of Bostonians waited in their houses on Friday during the city-wide lockdown, the people of Watertown were faced with SWAT officers yelling at them to get out of the buildings immediately.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boston; housesearches; police; terrorism; watertownfamilies
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To: colorado tanker
How many time have you seen the plot where the nice homeowner tells the cops they haven't seen the bad guys - while the bad guys have guns trained on them from inside the house?

So the cops ask the person to step outside and close the door behind him, and then ask the person to indicate by blinking whether there's anyone inside, in such fashion that a bad guy inside the house would be unable to see the response. If there is a bad guy in the house, even if he was holding someone's family hostage, it should be clear that the best thing for the family would be for the police to know the situation but for the bad guy not to know that they know. If someone with a closed door between them and any possible bad guy says there's no problem, the police should look elsewhere.

41 posted on 04/23/2013 3:10:26 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: t1b8zs
You are a frigen idiot

If that's the best argument you can come up with then I guess it puts you in the same category.............Welcome to the club!


42 posted on 04/23/2013 3:12:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: rcofdayton

Someone wrote this elsewhere and I don’t know if it is true or not;

“The 4th ammendment only protects against unreasonable search and seizure. In a federal case with a terrorist on the loose and in a containment zone they have the right to do this”

If someone knows differently, I’d appreciate a reply.


43 posted on 04/23/2013 3:14:34 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: colorado tanker

“...Having the civilians out of the house during the search is for their own safety...”
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?Civilians?
Your use of the word in that context is so telling.


44 posted on 04/23/2013 3:17:50 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: potlatch
"This whole thing is a delemma because the police know that and I guess that’s why they forced the people to exit their homes. I don’t like the way they forced them out, with their hands up, etc. It just didn’t look right." I agree, Potlatch. This was a close thing. Some urgency, hot pursuit, dangerous prey, etc. But forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint doesn't sit right. TC
45 posted on 04/23/2013 3:17:55 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Nowhere Man

I certainly agree with that, and earlier I posted that what happened in Boston should actually prove the NEED for having guns for self defense.


46 posted on 04/23/2013 3:18:13 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Thanks, it’s always nice to have an ‘agreeing’ reply.


47 posted on 04/23/2013 3:21:30 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Sorry, my don’t tell me comment was to make a point. I see we agree FRiend.. Was not meant “at you”.


48 posted on 04/23/2013 3:24:41 PM PDT by WorksinKOP
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To: muawiyah
This is about the 11 teen thousandth 568th rendition of this same story with the same video and so far NO ONE has interviewed the vics. What did they have to say about it?

I don't care what they think of it. It's wrong. Police state wrong.

49 posted on 04/23/2013 3:28:25 PM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: jeffc

> Reported by a foreign press. Where’s ours?

Yeah I keep noticing that the foreign press keeps reporting news that never seems to make it onto our screens over here “for some strange reason”. Makes you wonder if the 0 regime is blackmailing key MSM execs while whitewashing our news. Pretty bad when you have to rely on foreign news sources to find out what’s really going on in our nation.


50 posted on 04/23/2013 3:34:33 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Biggirl
A startling home-made video now shows the terrifying moments where Watertown residents were forced out of their homes at gunpoint as SWAT teams performed door-to-door searches as they hunted the second marathon bomber.

The alleged perp was found outside of the zone identified by the SWAT team authorities. It was the cooperation and alert report by a citizen that led to the capture of suspect number two.

The SWAT teams failed to find the perp via their door to door reckless, frantic, and hysterical approach inside the wrong search zone. It appears to me to be an expensive and ineffective way to conduct a manhunt.

Hopefully the decision makers will review their approach, and maybe use more common sense. Would they have forced people out if they knew that law abiding citizens were armed? Maybe so. But their tactics failed to locate and capture the alleged perp. A law abiding and cooperative citizen found the perp for them.

Could they have used a dog to track the suspect? Can cities afford such ineffective, frantic, and intrusive man hunts? Would the SWAT teams have found the perp if their search zone included the property with the boat? Would the searchers have simple forced the occupants out of the house, searched the house, and then moved on with the perp hiding in the boat?

51 posted on 04/23/2013 3:34:40 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Hot Tabasco
I understand your comment. I am the last person that thinks unrealizable searches are ok. If there was a probability that a perp had broken into my home and had a loved one as hostage if I let police in, I would let them in, but ONLY LOOKING FOR THE PERP. I would NOT agree to being treated like a criminal myself for just living there; there was no reason to have people being forced out of their house, hands up, and searched,
52 posted on 04/23/2013 3:34:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: WorksinKOP

I agree, and posted about this yesterday.

The police quickly found the SUV he abandoned, and they should have been able to track him:

1. His scent/dogs
2. His blood trail (on Saturday a reporter showed some drops in the grass, and of course there was blood on the outside of the boat - he was leaving a trail like a wounded deer).
3. Gun Powder - the guy had been firing a gun and setting off bombs, and may have had gunpowder on him. Mechanical sensors or dogs may have been able to track him.


53 posted on 04/23/2013 3:37:36 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Rusty0604

Yeah, searched.. As if they themselves were the Perp.. I’m sure they were searched inside the house, then again just off the porch, then again down the street. And yes, I’d like to know if any refused, and what happened. That photo of the dude in the armored Hummer pointing a gun at the person taking a pic/vid is beyond disturbing.


54 posted on 04/23/2013 3:42:58 PM PDT by WorksinKOP
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To: Hot Tabasco
Answer me this me in this picture who do these people look the most scared of the terrorist on the lose or the police at their door with machine guns?

55 posted on 04/23/2013 3:43:23 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: colorado tanker
Having the civilians out of the house during the search is for their own safety.

The police, who were in the house, are also civilians. What is chilling however, was them forcing the citizens to put their hands in the air. The first time I saw this was at Columbine. All the children where marched out of the school with their hands on their head.

Made me wonder how we as a nation could fall so far so quickly into tyranny, but it really only took one bad generation to do it.
56 posted on 04/23/2013 3:44:04 PM PDT by microgood
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To: HomeAtLast

What did the vics say ~ your opinion based on a picture is meaningless ~ for all we know those people asked the cops to check their stuff out ~ so, what do they say?


57 posted on 04/23/2013 3:44:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kartographer
Same s--t, different decade:


58 posted on 04/23/2013 3:46:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: potlatch
They were definitely in hot pursuit and we know that because they caught the guy right in the area where they said he had probably fled.

Also, what did the people in the video say about what was going on?

59 posted on 04/23/2013 3:46:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Biggirl

Then there is this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011493/posts


60 posted on 04/23/2013 3:46:43 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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