Posted on 05/13/2013 5:31:14 AM PDT by Perdogg
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted on May 10 that “low level” staff in its Cincinnati office, supposedly “not motivated by political bias,” targeted 75 conservative tax-exempt organizations, including many Tea Party organizations applying for exemption under Section 501(c)4 of the tax code. The groups were singled out for audit and investigation because they used the names “Tea Party” and “Patriot.” Yet in July 2011, the IRS had warned employees to drop audits of donors to similar 501(c)4 organizations.
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How do you spell BS?
Currently the story has drifted a bit from a focus on new applications to existing authorizations. The public record shows your existing authorizations so that's how the bad guys found out who to target.
The question is how did they get word to staff people to do those audits!~
Ok my issue is that the committee should be looking into who drafted the questions (and since these questions were sent to a “group” it can be considered a “form” but those rules may be long gone now)
I cannot imagine a single low level employee asking for this type of information if there had not been direction from above and there should be an email path to the who required the low level folks to ask for donor lists.
I believe there are 27 clients with these questions which does indicate coordination in an office for the employees to send them out.
Just a thought running through my head as I try to imagine how the questions were developed and sent out to more than one applicant. What guidelines were given the employees to ask for them and which attorney int he government approved it because there is always attorneys lurking behind anything of this kind.
instructions are not required when there is a unspoken policy. Obama created an enivronment of hatred, racism, and persecution. It is his nature. Underlings do not need instructions, wink wink, to follow the unwritten overt policy.
The analysts probably had no idea a higher order question was being asked. That's because all analysts in any administrative or regulatory body ALWAYS specialize in what they do best ~ else they could never get all the work done. Remember, most agency administrative dollars are wasted on highr level people or supernumeraries who have absolutely nothing to do with actual case work. Each one of these analysts will be matched pound for pound with a legal team with which they connect only rarely, and then only on the lawyer's schedule ~ they, the lawyers being very busy with coffee breaks.
Did I tell you the old joke about a dog named coffee break? Funny to gub'mnt employees if not taxpayers ~ but every bit of it was true! (chortles to self) SEE; >http://www.deeplake.com/jokes/animal8.shtml,p>The point being that the fellows doing the cases are hard pressed all the time and are trying to do their work ~ not conspire against the public. That's for the higher ups and their friends.
Regarding using a committee to look into this is that will not result in the right questions being asked ~ hence the Inspector General's report ~ it's all there, but the cases themselves are not open to public review ~ that being against the law ~ this is IRS and they're outside the FOIA rules!
The leftwingtards are as upset as anyone at this particular shenanigan ~ after all, if it's OK to do this to Conservatives it's OK to do it to Leftwingtards!
Nobody wants IRS involved in politics.
Civil Rights cases can be initiated by State’s Attorney Generals in State Courts, Holder can’t prevent that.
I can hardly wait to see if the AGs of Texas, Arizona and Oklahoma will act.
terminate? how about prosecute? eliminate any benefits accrued during federal gov employment? issue the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge so that (if theyr’e not in jail) they cannot find employment even at McDonalds?
Wrong. You don’t know who Colleen M. Kelley is. She is not an IRS Revenue Agent and hasn’t been for many years.
She is the President of the NTEU. AND the NTEU represents IRS employees.
President Colleen M. Kelley said NTEU would be organizing local endorsements for Obama, running education efforts and turning out union members to vote and participate in campaign events. She said the union would target Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.
“NTEU chapters around the country are gearing up their efforts to help NTEU secure a ‘pro-federal employee’ president,” Kelley said.
http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2008/07/federal-employee-groups-step-up-political-efforts-as-fall-elections-approach/27241/
So, take that ~ YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG ~
Next time bother reading what you are posting to.
We already knew she was the union's head geek long before you got on this thread.
EBH, you haven't been around for a while. Did they let you back on or something?
State courts have no jurisdiction over IRS employees for what they do on the job ~ this is all material for federal courts to decide.
I have not gone anywhere, was never banned or any some such nonsense you care to try to insinuate! Check posting history before you spout off. Because you darn sure have me mixed up with some other poster.
Second, she and her union are the driving force behind this IRS garbage if you care to do any real research. Your nonchalant dismissal of her job from over a decade ago demonstrates you do not understand the power this woman has and she was the driving force behind the IRS audits etc. to make sure they elected a “pro-federal employee President,” and that is a fact jack!
It is your kind of naiveté by the Right that will continue to lose our nation. If you can’t grasp she is not a revenue agent and hasn’t been for a long time, but is the President of the 2nd largest Federal employee Union they all belong too, of which 96% of their campaign contributions went to 0bama and her union is in the top 6 contributors to the 0bama campaign and they worked their asses off in corrupt Ohio 2012 elections and in all the key swing states....I can’t help you! In fact, she is on the record for actually saying it!
She is part of the shadow government being run by union thugs. The head of the IRS will walk free because there will be no trail to that office. The trail nobody is following is that of the union. You try to make that sound like it is no big deal, but when a President wine’s and dine’s the unions...he doesn’t need to write a memo or place an order with those who hold office ...when the union can simply get the job done and no one, but no one will even look their way.
Muawiyah, you are not that ignorant or naïve. But, you are wrong about Colleen. And to dismiss her because you don’t think her resume has the clout to encourage low-level union thugs to break the law is a mistake. She doesn’t need to have ever been an IRS specialist, as a union President dedicated to the re-election 0bama she has the clout across several sectors to pull this off and no one, but no one will take the fall for it.
That was predacatory to a question of what she'd done at IRS and what area she specialized in. Today she's a union geek ~ so what, it's a plush job and somebody's got to do it.
The union probably had nothing at all to do with this simply because NOBODY in the Treasury Employee's Union is bright enough to figure this one out, particularly not a former field agent.
Since I spent several decades working in a different agency in an analogous job, and actually hobnobbed with some of the folks at IRS headquarters who were in the sub agency that rode herd on these geeks, I think I have something to add to the search for what they did, who did it, why they did it, and how did they get away with it.
Your dispute is based on your failure to understand that WAS is past tense for IS. Not a hill worth dying on, but just so you don't get funny ideas I am hardly naive about government unions ~ as those who've followed my comments for years and years can attest. We'll go over that again someday if you want, but Fur Shur only two of us out o the hundreds of thousands who have ever signed up for FR have EVER passed around representation cards calling for a union representation election ~ in a government agency or a private company.
I grew up next door to a mafia soldier and spent many years having to work with people in the private sector who had and still have numerous relatives in prison for murder, bribery, smuggling, racketeering, etc.
I exchange Christmas cards with some of them yet today.
The ol' gal at the Treasury union ain't no thang.
Look at Gen. Wesley Clark... one of many poster children high level career government statist operatives.
Over 50% of workers are directly or indirectly getting their bread buttered by taxpayer largess. The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire - on steroids...
Sadly, too true... :-(
Hate Crimes and Civil Rights cases can be initiated and tried in State Courts. As to the enforcement of a State decision on federal employess, that is a procedural matter which can be accomplished by application to a federal court for enforcement.
Not sure why you want to waste time taking these issues to a state court though ~
Not sure why you want to waste time taking these issues to a state court though ~>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Its not a waste. Eric Holder would never allow a hate crime suit to be brought in federal court agianst anyone in the Obama administration over Benghazi, or IRS discrimination against conservative groups and Jews.
Starting the action in state court is a method of bring the matter to litigation otherwise stymied. The Civil Rights Act was designed specifically to deal with the situation where a federal AG would refuse to act.Actions can be started in State Court.
What I think you are asking for is PROSECUTION for violating some specific law. If you think Holder won't let that happen, then wait for the next regime to do the prosecuting. All that happens when you try to prosecute a federal employee for doing federal work in a state court is you have a good 10 years to get a judge to say 'yup' ~ besides, he or she would file immediately to move the case to a federal court.
But if you want satisfaction, find out what the names of the bad guys are in this case ~ notice we don't yet know who did it ~ and then go see a 'satisfaction provider'.
“The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted on May 10 that “low level” staff in its Cincinnati office, supposedly “not motivated by political bias,” targeted 75 conservative tax-exempt organizations, including many Tea Party organizations applying for exemption under Section 501(c)4 of the tax code. The groups were singled out for audit and investigation because they used the names “Tea Party” and “Patriot.” Yet in July 2011, the IRS had warned employees to drop audits of donors to similar 501(c)4 organizations.”
The order was to drop audits of donors to 501(c)4’s. There are many 501(c)4’s on the Left. By targeting those seeking 501(c)4’s on the Right, they throttled donors on the right. These two things are not contradictory.
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