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New Jersey police officer accused of shooting man dead in road rage incident
Fox News ^ | 10 June 2013

Posted on 06/10/2013 4:44:58 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

A New Jersey police officer is being held on $1 million bail after he allegedly shot and killed a man in an apparent act of road rage while traveling with his family in Maryland. My FoxNY.com reports police say 40-year-old Joseph Walker, a sworn officer with the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office in New Jersey, shot and killed 36-year-old Joseph Harvey Jr. after an altercation on the shoulder of an interstate Saturday night.

Officials in Maryland say they were told that a road rage incident had happened between the two vehicles before they pulled over. Harvey had one passenger in his car at the time and Walker's wife and three children were in his minivan.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kills; newjersey; officer; roadrage
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Well, this begs a long discussion...right in front of his children. The other guy, keeps walking toward a guy with a gun in hand. Wow.
1 posted on 06/10/2013 4:44:58 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Probably was aiming for his dog and missed.../ S


2 posted on 06/10/2013 4:48:55 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

No death penalty in Maryland thanks to O Malley.

This guy will even be able to vote when he gets out.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 4:49:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Medication of some type being used by the shooter. I’d bet on that.

Note, around the same region about three years ago...we had some guy in a dump truck upset a guy driving in a pick-up with his kids. The pick-up truck guy got all aggressive and the cops were called to pull this guy over.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 4:50:47 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Well, as the cops-can-do-no-wrong crowd are sure to opine, if the police officer killed him, he deserved to be killed, he had it coming.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 4:51:07 AM PDT by sport
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Hard to pass judgment on this story. The off-duty officer may have felt his family was at risk.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 4:52:46 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Police officers are allowed to carry unconditionally in any state?


7 posted on 06/10/2013 4:58:56 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: BlueStateRightist

Hard to pass judgment on this story. The off-duty officer may have felt his family was at risk.
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Oh, give me a break. The cop shoots and kills an unarmed man. And he does this after stopping on the side of the road with his family in the car. If he felt concerned about the safety of his family, he wouldn’t have stopped.

I suspect that when and if the truth comes out in this case, this out-of-control cop likely shot the unarmed man simply because he felt “dissed”.

But, not to worry, this is Maryland and the murderous cop is black. If the shooting victim is white, jury nullification will raise its head and the cop will either walk or have a small sentence.


8 posted on 06/10/2013 5:08:47 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It sounds like a case of self defense to me but in Maryland? The cop is toast.


9 posted on 06/10/2013 5:09:59 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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>> Medication of some type being used by the shooter.

Steroids?


10 posted on 06/10/2013 5:23:32 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yes, police officers can carry in any state. This per federal law passed after 9/11.


11 posted on 06/10/2013 5:25:14 AM PDT by bike800
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To: House Atreides
Perhaps he stopped because he was concerned for his family's safety.

I have pulled over a couple of times because an aggressive driver was zipping around lanes like a moron behind me, and I wanted to wait until he was 10 miles down the road before getting back on the highway.

12 posted on 06/10/2013 5:28:08 AM PDT by wideawake
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I do the same thing, go have a coffee and let the crazy move along.
One time the crazy wouldn't let me go though and I had to call the police
and tell them I was armed, and if the Crazy ran me off the road I would
be forced to defend myself. The police arrested the guy. But I did manage to
get away and avoid any conflict according to self defense laws in VA.
13 posted on 06/10/2013 5:34:25 AM PDT by MaxMax
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Cops murder citizens and dogs every day and use the “I felt my life was threatened!” defense as their free get-out-of-jail-free card.


14 posted on 06/10/2013 5:37:37 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Give that cop a donut, better yet - a dozen donuts. Those busy cleaning the gene pool deserve an appropriate reward.

The ‘dear departed’ walks back to engage in beating up another driver, and discovers said ‘beating victim to be’ is:
A) Armed
B) Angry
C) Identifies himself as a police officer

Mr. Departed then continues to approach said officer, with a friend who it is reasonable to assume will help Mr. Departed in administering the impending beating.

Two to one is considered “preponderance of force” and thus justifies use of deadly force.

Call the Darwin Awards Committee.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 5:37:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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Walker then allegedly exited his car, brandished his gun and announced he was a police officer. Harvey continued to approach Walker in a allegedly aggressive manner, and Walker fired at Harvey, fatally wounding him, MyFoxNY.com reports.

This is the unintended consequence of people carrying firearms.

Introduce a firearm into an "altercation" between two people and the chance of one of them dying goes up tremendously.

Those who think having a gun is always a good thing are relying on the invalid assumption that there is always an obvious and clear distinction between an aggressive perp and a defending armed citizen.

No specifics of the "road rage incident" are given, but MANY "altercations" arise when two guys are both behaving badly.

No gun, and there is a fistfight and maybe some relatively minor injuries. Add a gun, for either person, and a struggle immediately becomes a matter of life and death, since whoever doesn't have control of the gun is likely to die.

16 posted on 06/10/2013 5:43:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Cops murder citizens and dogs every day and use the “I felt my life was threatened!” defense as their free get-out-of-jail-free card.
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They do indeed...and it shouldn’t be allowed to happen.


17 posted on 06/10/2013 5:49:09 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: GladesGuru
The “Darwin Awards Committee” suggests that you take an IQ test. And also, while you're at it, consider the meaning of “Assumption is the Mother of all F*** Ups”.

If you would do a modicum of research before espousing the views of an uninformed idiot, you might come to a different conclusion. This was not a “two to one” situation. And it was not a Zimmerman situation where a perp was pounding the innocent person's head into the concrete and that innocent person pulls a weapon in self defense.

PS - After your IQ test, please consider the possibility of having yourself sterilized.

18 posted on 06/10/2013 5:56:44 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: GladesGuru

I know an NJ cop, Chief of Police, in a small NJ town.

He stalked a friend of mine. A married friend. He’d wait till her hubby left for work and then park his car at the end of her driveway forcing her to walk up to him to ask him to move. Whereupon he’d inform her he’d just seen her hubby leave and did she want to join him in extracurricular activity.

When she refused him he’d threaten her.

The family eventually had to move. Who do you report the Chief of Police to when they’re abusive?


19 posted on 06/10/2013 6:00:35 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

This would seem to be one of those “better to be judged by twelve than carried by six” moments.


20 posted on 06/10/2013 6:10:57 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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