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How to lose 2016 in one easy amnesty bill
Legal Insurrection ^ | 6/12/13 | William Jacobson

Posted on 06/12/2013 6:06:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark

To say that there is disgust growing in the ranks is an understatement.

If adults who broke the law to come here illegally get citizenship, it will be a spit in the face of millions of legal immigrants who followed the rules, and many millions more who wait patiently on the other side of the oceans and borders. It will sent a message of lawlessness which will encourage more lawlessness.

Marco Rubio and others are imploding the party to achieve Chuck Schumer’s dream

Mickey Kaus in The Daily Caller, Wake Up!:

If the conservative public were paying attention, the flaws and crude deceptions of the Schumer-Rubio bill would be common knowledge. They are so obvious, especially in the border enforcement area, that even Sen. Rubio pretends to be dissatisfied with his own bill. Byron York reports that many conservatives are shocked when they learn that Rubio’s bill doesn’t secure the border before legalization. It doesn’t! ”First comes the legalization,” as Rubio boasted yesterday. That’s been obvious for months, but now it’s news. (The border security requirements, themselves evanescent, would only prevent legalized illegals from moving to upgrade from legal status to getting green cards and citizenship.)

It’s time to wake up! Conservatives–while you are (rightly) excited about NSA snooping and partisan IRS corruption, the Congress is about to change America in a more profound, permanent way right under your noses.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; gangof8; immigration
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This is the ball game folks, if they get away with this, we'll be a nation of 50 states that are all as irresponsible and stupid as California.

It's the democrat dream, win every election no matter what they do while using the organs of state to destroy all opposition. The gang of 8: incredibly destructive.

1 posted on 06/12/2013 6:06:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
we'll be a nation of 50 states

I'd say the clock is ticking on that one.

2 posted on 06/12/2013 6:11:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Lakeshark

You might be interested to know that my wife and her family, who LEGALLY became citizens here, are appalled by these characters.

Let’s also note, for the sake of the bigots here on FR, that there are millions of illegals from countries besides Mexico, including Ireland, China, Russia, etc.

Millions.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 6:11:16 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Lakeshark

I really think that this is what all of these “scandals” are about. Get everyone fired up about these “scandals” and distract them from watching the Communist DemocRATS and Chuckie Schumer Republicans from registering 33.1 million new DemocRAT voters from south of the border.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 6:11:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: Lakeshark

I am not ignorant of Rubio’s bill, nor am I oblivious to the traitorous appeasing intent of the Gang of Eight in trying to foist this “immigration” crap on us. Frankly, I don’t care in the deluded sh!t they believe in.

This election in 2014 is NOT a presidential election where Obama’s government and minions can amass their forces into fraudulent voting, outright cheating, lying stealing vote counting, etc. They cannot do this on a scale of 435 Representative elections and with 33 Senatorial elections.

I’ve already succinctly told MY representative what’s going to happen if I hear ONE word about “comprehensive”. I’ve already told both my Senators I’m going to primary them if I have the opportunity.

It took the full weight and force of Obama’s government, the Democrat Party and the IRS, FBI, CIA and NSA to effect a change in a national election which was close on a popular vote. They cannot replicate this 500 times.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 6:15:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: warchild9
I have two hispanic spouses of children in my family, so kindly don't accuse me of being a bigot. There may be bigots here, but saying a lot of people are is just plain wrong. Frankly, there are more bigots on the other side of this argument than here.

I understand that MOST people who went through the immigration process legally hate this bill. It's a horrible bill.

6 posted on 06/12/2013 6:17:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

If amnesty passes, America has about 50 years before it becomes a third-world hellhole. It should take longer to consume the resources of the richest country in the history of the world, but it won’t. Liberals have proven that their appetite is unbounded. Despite today’s infrastructure of roads, dams, bridges, buildings, power plants, factories, schools, and hospitals, we will have nothing left by the time today’s teens are entering their 60s. Their children will not even know how to rebuild or what went wrong.

Without amnesty, we have a couple extra decades and a chance of turning things around. It’s not much better as a forecast, but at least it’s a chance.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 6:17:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Gaffer
I understand what you are saying, right on.

We might not get any where near 2016 if the do this; 2014 will be a disaster in lots of ways in its own right.

8 posted on 06/12/2013 6:20:01 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

I was not referring to you, or your post. Sorry if I gave that impression.

I was preempting comments that veer from mentioning the awfulness of this entire policy to a degraded mockery of Mexican culture and Obama’s color, for instance.

As the spouse of an Hispanic, I consider that sort of ignorance free game. And it makes me tetchy.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 6:21:58 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Lakeshark
If the conservative public were paying attention,

our enemies would not be applauding around the globe as the _resident, the _resident's Cabinet and Congress plot and turn this Nation demise into legislation. Thank God, Our Founding Fathers Armed Us! The signs are everywhere.

10 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:07 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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11 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Lakeshark

If it passes, the U.S. passes with it. Secession is probably the only option at that point, to preserve American ideals.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:44 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Lakeshark

llegal aliens invade the USA for Welfare and Wages.

1.) End the Anchor Baby Law.

2.) End the Hospital Emergency Room No Payment Law.

3.) End ANY other Welfare to Aliens.

4.) Fine US employers $1,000 per day per employee who is an alien.

5.) Spend NO money on “securing the border.”

6.) Spend money on Chainlink/ Concertina wire desert prisons for repeat offenders who have invaded our Country.

7.) Transfer Border Invasion Enforcement to the US National Guard in each State, and US Coast Guard.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 6:24:30 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Lakeshark

We lost 2016 in 2012. The takers now outnumber the producers. There is no going back.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 6:25:36 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Graewoulf

you must have a desire to see ted kennedy spinning in his grave ... btw ... I too share your dream.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 6:26:07 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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God forgave me for dancing in the street when ted kennedy died.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 6:27:13 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: warchild9
No prob.

My point that there are more genuine racists on the other side stands, but that doesn't excuse racism coming from anyone else, I agree with you on that.

17 posted on 06/12/2013 6:28:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
Thank you for stating this. I take umbrage with people who hold hands with the Left to broadly accuse others of racism (isn't that a form of racism?).

The fact is, and always has been about the rule of law and proper assimilation. I dare anyone to name any other country on the planet that allows anyone - let alone tens of millions - to just walk into their country, take their wealth, and then deemed these people victims and reward them for their illegal action with the full faith and blessings of the host country. Name one country.

And, despite all the extraneous noise, all this is being done for the purpose of cementing a permanent Democrat majority. This is the same thing the Labor Party did in England with Muslim immigrants, with the exact same motivations of Democrats. See how well that is working out?

18 posted on 06/12/2013 6:29:26 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: Lakeshark

La Raza: the political wing of an invading racist army.

Also makes me tetchy.

But don’t let’s forget that the basis for Congress’s support for this bill is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Bribes rule in Washington.


19 posted on 06/12/2013 6:35:25 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I believe you are correct, and have stated similar thoughts in the past.

There are only so many single issue groups the Democrats can round up to expand their voting base. Environmentalists, Homosexuals, Save the Whalers, Protect Mother Earthers, etc., and then they have to become very creative to draw others to their minority party.

It’s truly a minority party since radicalization in the 1970’s thus they cannot draw the majority of legal, and sane to their side. They have to reach out to creatively pull in voters to their welfare, something for nothing programs, and that’s where the “immigration” issue comes in. They’ve pulled in all they can of the citizenry of this Nation, and are at the tipping point, but cannot sustain the necessary BS to maintain their current status. They need those voters, and they need to get them legal so they will vote for them.

The Democrats have gambled they could do it. They are throwing everything they have at it.

If we let them win we are responsible for the demise of the greatest, most prosperous Nation this Planet has ever known. We will have to accept the responsibility for the demise of Liberty, and Freedom not only for ourselves, but for our allies as well.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 6:36:23 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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