Posted on 06/16/2013 7:49:50 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
If ever there was a region where incumbent Republican governors can experience the great GOP gubernatorial apocalypse, it is the upper Midwest. Three of the races involve Republican incumbents who rode the Republican wave of 2010 into office. They are Rick Snyder in Michigan, John Kasich in Ohio and Scott Walker in Wisconsin. That potential loss of three Governors offices may be mitigated by a Pat Quinn Democratic loss in Illinois. The problem is that Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin are less red than Illinois is certainly blue.
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That Republican = red, 'Rat = blue electoral map meme was a creation of the MSM standardized in the Bush - Gore presidential race in 2000. Before then, each analyst used whatever colors he wished to show an electoral map.
You're right, though. As with so many other things, only the GOP grassroots objects to that coloring system (I've seen or heard the objection to Marxist- socialist red many times) while the elites go along with it, even embrace it. So it's not likely to change anytime soon, unfortunately.
Fieldmarshaldj and I, amongst others, have complained about this for years. Erickson’s blog has always ticked me off.
Most people don’t care I guess but it turns my face RED when freepers unaware or uncaring go along with it. One guy even gave me an impassioned defense of the color red whist dissing the color blue, nevermind decades of international political history. LOL. I prefer Coke to Pepsi but come on.
I never knew it to be anything but Republican-blue; Democrat-red before the Orwellian newspeak Election Night 2000 lunacy. Kenneth Martis’s definitive works on the Congressional Atlas was testament to that, as was Dave Leip’s online website. I have been making my own election maps for well over 2 decades (before I ever saw Martis’s works, which predated mine) and it remains historically correct. Republicans should refuse to use the historically and ideologically incorrect colors and I frequently chide people on FR that ought to know better and how truly absurd they sound when they call a (Conservative) GOP state “Red.” I find it repugnant.
I’d never heard of the bastard before he ran, a Congressman from a different district in the damn 70’s (though I guess his home base is now in the 8th). He served 3 terms so he’s got his full pension, I guess he needed that salary back too.
The district continues to trend our way, Romney got 46%. If it can turn out Oberstar after a million terms it can turn out Nolan.
FWIW, Kasich in OH has been pretty good, and I didn’t think he would be. He did a pretty good balancing act with the unions. He got the finances in order. He is the friend of bringing manufacturing back. The thing he does that Romney didn’t is he talks to and negotiates with mayor Frank Jackson of Cleveland.
The district is becoming increasingly weighted toward its southern part (I live in CD8). That is the more conservative part of the district, which is needed to offset Duluth and the Iron Range. There was enough gerrymandering of CD8 in the last redistricting to siphon Nolan into office, where he has done exactly and precisely nothing of value.
They'll be flattered by the "qualified US citizens" part. Think abour it. Has Obama EVER said that about the majority of black US citizens?
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I think you have history a little out of order. The Dems ran Barrett against Walker for Governor. Walker won. THEN, the Dems launched the recall and ran Barrett against Walker again. Walker won by a larger margin during the recall election.
So, the only time the Dems have had to run "against the stigma of a recall election" was during the recall election itself.
That immediately takes Rutherford out of consideration in my view, no way I can vote for the guy. While it's true there are many so-called Republican's in this state that don't support the Pro-Life movement or support Conceal-Carry, we out here in the grass-roots call them DEMOCRATS.There is no Republican in the entire state of Illinois that is, first, acceptable to the suburban Chicago Republicans, and, second, pure enough to satisfy the downstate Republicans.
Illinois will never have a Republican anything in my lifetime. It may never have a Republican anything in America's lifetime.
Well, you're presumably alive and you do have a Republican US Senator, although you might not consider him as such.
Mea culpa. I should have been clearer. I don’t believe Illinois will have a Republican Governor, or a Republican majority in the State House or State Senate.
So why can’t the exact same statewide Illinois electorate which elected a Republican US Senator elect a Republican governor?
The last Republican Governor, George Ryan was released from Federal Prison in December, 2012 after having been convicted of several corruption charges. He SHOULD HAVE been put on DEATH ROW for the MURDER of the Willis Family Children as part of the Commercial Truck Driver Licenses for Bribes scandal, in which CDL's were given to illegal immigrants in return for a "bribe."
Prior to George Ryan, Jim Edgar (R.) and Jim Thompson (R.) were Republican Governors in Illinois.
George Ryan's conviction was followed by a Rod Blagojevich (D) Governor who was (surprise!) convicted of selling Government Offices and high level appointments for campaign cash.
Now we have a sorry-ass piece of milquetoast named Pat Quinn (D.) who's raised the state income tax by 66%, has enabled/allowed property taxes to SKYROCKET across the state, and with each passing day, allows $17,000,000 in unfunded pension obligations to further indebt this state.
One would think that the political climate in this state is screaming for change .................. Nope. Democrat Liberal Socialist Redistributionists have a firm grip on this state. The only "republican's" who can win in this state are actually Democrats who disavow the right to life, the right to defend ones self, and who raise taxes year, after year, after year.
Mark Kirk a Republican? Only in Illinois.
What passes for "Republican" in this state is not something one would recognize as a historical Republican who'd advance Conservative principles, advocate for smaller, less intrusive government, and lower taxes. In Illinois, Republicans are AGAINST those things. Go figure.
But then what the hell, I'm interviewing out of state for C-Level I.T.positions and it's only a matter of time before I'm outta this God forsaken state.
If Illinois were to have a Republican Governor and Republican State legislature, you could be sure of one of two things:
1. Divine intervention by the Lord God Almighty Himself;
2. The apocalypse.
I'd suggest #2 is far more likely. ;-)
They won’t let God vote in my precinct. And if He sends the apocalypse the unions will sue Him blind. Unless, of course, the Four Horsemen are Teamsters.
Some good news, Tim Walz in CD has gotten a challenge from State Rep. Mike Benson. He got off the hook with a weak opponent last year.
Meanwhile a Paulbot State Rep has announced against Franken. This after Paulbot Kurt Bills got just 30.5% last time. The worst performance by a GOP Senate candidate in the state since 1976 when some poor bastard got just 25% running against HHH.
I think that a Republican might be elected Illinois governor, next year. In 2010, Gov. Quinn won mainly because of Lex Green, of the Libertarian Party. Quinn beat Brady by about 20,000 votes, and Green got about 34,000 votes. If Green didn’t run, the majority of his supporters would have voted for Brady, causing Brady to win. Next year, we should encourage all IL anti-Democrat voters to cooperate and vote for the same governor candidate. If that happens, that candidate will win.
There are other wimpy RINOs that sometimes get elected US Senate seats or governorships in other states, particularly in the Northeast and upper Midwest. Illinois is not alone in that regard. At least you have elected lousy Republicans in recent history. Maybe you can elect less corrupt ones in the future.
“Has anyone even announced against Frakenberry?”
There is a state Representative who recently announced, it was in The Hill. As for Craavak, one reason he lost is that he moved his family to New Hampshire while in office. I don’t see that issue going away.
New Hampshire? That’s weird. Why not Virginia?
As for the State Rep. running who filed for the Senate, another Paulite like Kurt Bills.
Bills had the 3rd worst performance of any GOP Senate candidate last year and the worst in decades in MN Senate races, he managed to narrowly win only 2 small counties.
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