Posted on 07/16/2013 3:27:25 PM PDT by clintonh8r
Please indulge me in a very infrequent vanity. In all the uproar following the trial, I may have missed something. While I believe that the facts show Zimmerman's innocence beyond ANY doubt, I still think the state's case was hurt by what appeared to this layman to be an inept and incompetent prosecution. (Yes, I believe they are corrupt and unethical too, but that isn't the question here).
So here's my question: Has anyone on the left or any black organizations or leaders, had any criticism at all of the prosecution team? If they care so much about Trayvon, why haven't they criticized the poor case presented by the prosecution?
Yes, and the other cliche they like to throw around is “justice for Trayvon.” Well, the justice is meted out to the defendant, not the victim, in our system. It has, however, become a popular misconception that justice is meant for the victim.
Of course, I am pretty sure that doing so would have opened the door for the defense to impugn his character through his school disciplinary record and the reason why he was in Sanford in the first place.
Blacks seem to be incapable of admitting that he was a punk.
Missed the point. All I really want to know is if any of the usual suspects had anything to say about the conduct of the prosecution, that I might have missed. If you read my post you would know that I said that there was more than enough evidence and testimony to acquit GZ beyond any doubt.
we have become a nation of men not laws.
we are raising idiots.
the constitution has been reduced to toilet paper.
anarchy and mob rule.
not one american will be able to fight soon being that every morsel of dirt will be known.
laws mean nothing.
voting means nothing as one liberal judge overturns the majority.
our conservative reps have no spine.
the police chief, the IT director, the defense attorneys, and the jury did the right thing.
the odds of that in todays culture is truly a miracle.
The low info voters won’t “get” that the prosecution helps pick juries. They’ll just hear Jesse Jackwagon say “it should have been a black jury!” and the morons say, YEAH, let’s RIOT!! People are idiots.
Overcharging is unethical, but not a sign of incompetence. In some cases, less-than-ethical prosecutors manage to achieve convictions on lesser offenses by virtue of their also having charged more serious ones. As for asking witnesses questions which favor the defense, if an ethical prosecutor is presenting a case where the facts may or may not justify conviction but are close enough to present a legitimate judgment call, there would be nothing wrong with the prosecutor trying to conduct a fair and balanced inquiry, and being willing to follow where the facts led.
All that having been said, I would regard the prosecution in this case as both corrupt and inept. The only reason jurors heard GZ's narrative of what happened without GZ taking the stand himself and being subject to cross-examination is that the prosecutor introduced many pieces of testimony about GZ's narrative. The defense would not have been able to do that without GZ taking the stand, but the prosecutors did it for him, and I'm baffled as to why. If the facts of the case were such that a reasonable juror who knew all the facts might or might not convict, a prosecutor might engage in such behavior if he wanted the jury to have all the facts. It's clear in Zimmern's case, however, that the prosecutors had no such interest.
My guess is that the big reason for the prosecutors' ineptness is that any of the competent attorneys who could have prosecuted the case had better things to do. Basically, the same reason crooks are, on average, not the smartest people on the block. If they were, they wouldn't have to be crooks.
Yes, they are all heroes among a lot of human trash, not the least of whom is Angela Corey.
No they desperately wanted to win. They failed to execute Obama's orders, life will go poorly for them from now on.
Obama does not forget.
LMAO....a jury of your peers is meant to be for Zimmerman. JJ is a clueless twit.
These prosecutors were not inept, they were crooked.
They tried to railroad man innocent man and they almost succeeded.
To chalk this acquittal up to prosecutorial incompetence is to suggest that they really had the goods on Zimmerman.
Don’t insult the jury by suggesting that they would have convicted Zimmerman if only the prosecution had done a better job. Given that they were trying to frame an innocent man, they did a bang up job.
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Well said. The fact that this was a jury of only six makes the acquittal even more of an indictment of the prosecution, imho.
That reminds me of something else: I don't know whether RJ's "rapist" comment on the stand was new to MoM/West, or if she'd said anything similar in deposition, but it would have allowed the defense a way to raise the suggestion that TM attacked Zimmerman without impugning TM's character (jurors in self-defense cases often have a negative emotional reaction when the defendant attacks the character of the decedent, even if on a factual basis such evidence should favor the defendant). I wonder if the jury could have felt more positive about Zimmerman if the defense suggested that Trayvon may have been scared of Zimmerman not because of anything Zimmerman actually did, but because of Rachel's suggestion that he might be a rapist?
The point is that these prosecutors were not incompetent. They were crooked. I think it is ridiculous to chalk up this acquittal to their incompetence . They could not have gotten an honest conviction so they resorted to trickery and deceit. They were very good at that.
Me thinks Greta has a low opinion of the type of "law" the Parks/Crump outfit practices.
She really laid into that rookie. My favorite comment from the nitwit was the old ..he wasn't found innocent, he was found not guilty... Greta then schooled her on the presumption of innocence.
I agree. All I want to know is if Jackson, Sharpton, Jealous, Matthews, Harris-Perry, etc, etc, have been at all critical of the prosecution; i.e: “didn’t want to convict GZ; sandbagged; threw the trial” os some other nonsense. Why is this so hard to understand?
Exactly. If the Prosecution didn't call the cops and such as fact witnesses, the Defense Attorneys would have done so, elicited the same favorable testimony, and slammed the prosecutors for "hiding" them from the jury.
One way for the Prosecution to deal with unhelpful facts is to bring them out themselves, on the theory that the jury will hear them anyway, and it is better to hear them first from the Prosecution.
Of course that presupposes that the unhelpful facts are few, and do not affirmatively disprove your case.
What I find funny is how the media thought the prosecution was doing such a great job and the defense was blowing it. Looks like just the opposite happened.
Any testimony by cops about anything Zimmerman might have said could only be admitted if the prosecution asked for it or let the defense do so, or Zimmerman agreed to take the stand. Had the prosecutor not asked such questions, the defense could not have done so without allowing the prosecutor to cross-examine Zimmerman.
I heard today that the prosecutors rejected one black juror because he said he watched Fox News.
>>>>>So here’s my question: Has anyone on the left or any black organizations or leaders, had any criticism at all of the prosecution team? If they care so much about Trayvon, why haven’t they criticized the poor case presented by the prosecution?<<<<<
To your first q, I’ve not heard any criticism of the prosecution team...I get most of my news from FR and I haven’t seen anything here).
To your second q: Aside from the fact that I believe “they” don’t care about TM at all, I can only guess that they don’t want to shine a light on anything the prosecution did or WHY they did it...?
Why do you want to know? What thots, if any, have you had that prompted your questions?
The prosecution had to make everything up to have anything at all.
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