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Closing of Western Pennsylvania power plants leaves workers at a loss [Obama destroys 380 jobs]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 21, 2013 | Jessica Contrera

Posted on 07/21/2013 10:32:39 PM PDT by grundle

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To: cva66snipe

Precisely. This was predictable, as are the coming brown outs and blackouts.

I’ve been following energy policy for 35+ years, worked in a coal fired steam powerplant as an engineering student. I understand this stuff technically, and I understand it from a big picture economically. In a very fundamental way, the American Economic Miracle had a large foundation block called Cheap Energy.

We are allowing this fool in the White House to throw this away with very little debate. It isn’t going to end well. I hope some major NE cities have a blackout in time to create a real public debate and arrest the slide. I don’t see anything else making this happen.


21 posted on 07/22/2013 2:15:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
We have persons making national energy policy who likely lack the education in basic electrical theory. I bet if someone presented a Perpetual Motion Generator and asked for a research grant they'd get it. The sudden great idea just about any first year trade school student gets studying electrical trades LOL. The policy makers are also the ones you can't get them to grasp why underground utility primary is a very bad idea.

We have four basic choices Nuclear reaction steam generation, Coal Fired Steam generation, Gas Turbines, and Hydroelectric power generation, as our meet the demand electrical power generation options. Nothing else of this production capacity is even on the drawing board as far as I know.

22 posted on 07/22/2013 2:48:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Probably not very strong of support for Obambi among union workers in the electric utility industry. They know of his desire to destroy coal (and with it, inexpensive energy for industry).

It’s a damn shame though - good jobs going away while the useless leftist environazi desk jockeys continue to make 6-figure incomes for doing nothing useful.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 3:01:12 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: grundle

Hey Pennsylvania! Elections have consequences. You knew this going in, yet you voted for him anyway.


24 posted on 07/22/2013 3:02:09 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

I’ll bet you that if you peeled Philly away from Pennsylvania, you’d have a fairly solid conservative state. Strong evidence, given that many precincts in Philadelphia had over 100% voter turnout, that massive voter fraud won the election for Obama. Probably both times.

Outside of the big cities, PA is a lot like Ohio - very conservative. It’s the big cities that are the problem, packed full of freeloaders voting for free stuff for themselves. I wonder what happens when population reaches that critical density that causes people to become incredibly short-sighted and stupid...


25 posted on 07/22/2013 3:08:16 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: grundle

I’m no fan of Obama, but let’s be honest here: The biggest factor in the closure of these power plants in western Pennsylvania is probably the declining prices of natural gas as the development of Marcellus shale gas extraction unfolds. Nobody is using less electricity these days, so these coal-fired plants are simply being replaced by gas-fired plants.


26 posted on 07/22/2013 3:18:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: eCSMaster
Follow the money; First Energy is the BIG utility lobbyist, caused the 2003 Midwest Blackout with incompetence, but donates and buys favorable legislation to make their CEI a multi-million-dollar bonus EVERY YEAR. They just pass costs to consumers and claim "Regulatory Costs went up", and that way, they eliminate jobs, raise prices, and the bottom-line is NEVER impacted.

That's the way government works today. Yet, the Unions do the money-laundering to the DNC, and then the Union labor is laid off, while the businesses PUSH Amnesty, to lower their costs.

In ALL these things; follow the money!

27 posted on 07/22/2013 3:22:17 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: traditional1

CEI=CEO


28 posted on 07/22/2013 3:23:01 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: cva66snipe

More wind and solar, maaaaan!

I’ve seen this movie before during the Carter Administration. We wasted $billions on that stuff and there’s nothing to show for it, and here we are doing it all over again, and worse.


29 posted on 07/22/2013 3:28:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cva66snipe

My Labrador Retriever, LulaBelle, worked for NASA until they cancelled all space programs and became an outreach project.


30 posted on 07/22/2013 3:32:26 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks grundle.

Obama’s war on fulltime employment, Obama’s war on coal.


31 posted on 07/22/2013 3:36:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: cva66snipe
We have four basic choices Nuclear reaction steam generation, Coal Fired Steam generation, Gas Turbines, and Hydroelectric power generation, as our meet the demand electrical power generation options. Nothing else of this production capacity is even on the drawing board as far as I know.

You missed solar and wind power, two of the best ways to insure that you will freeze in the winter and sweat in the summer.


32 posted on 07/22/2013 3:51:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Eagles6

I live in Indiana County. We have three power plants here. Obama didn’t win our county either. I’m betting it’s just a matter of time before they target at least one of the three.

I like that - “Fayette Nam” lol!!


33 posted on 07/22/2013 3:58:34 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think western Penn is conservative, isn’t it? I’d say there are parts of many NE states that have conservatives in them in the areas not dominated by large urban cities filled with minorities, foreigners and illegals, with a healthy helping of just plain ole rabid liberals thrown in, too.


34 posted on 07/22/2013 4:02:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gene Eric

The RNC is making matters worse with its amnesty agenda


I know, right! I ignore those ads cause they’re utter b.s.
Well I get why the Republican party is called the stupid party by some here.


35 posted on 07/22/2013 4:05:10 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: USS Alaska
You missed solar and wind power, two of the best ways to insure that you will freeze in the winter and sweat in the summer.

Oh those things? Didn't T Boone sink a fortune into them? LOL soon after they began putting wind turbines up they realized many humans could not withstand the low frequency harmonics they create. Low Frequency sounds can not be shut out by basic ear protection either as it penetrates the skull which is part of your hearing.

They might work out well up on the Canadian Plains but here in East Tennessee they'll not be turning enough to matter on most days.

Walmart thought they'd be real Green and put in skylights as their primary store lighting in the day time. LOL they leave the lights on now. People around here that I know who have solar power are persons too far from the power grid to afford utilities.

36 posted on 07/22/2013 4:07:55 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: eCSMaster

Have been seeing the pattern in Texas for a while.

Obama and his minion the EPA has been trying to punish Texas for the last 5 years but so for Texas has been able to absorb the blows

Secede. Cruz for President of Texas


37 posted on 07/22/2013 4:27:22 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: grundle

I am sad for these people, but it seems when you hear these stories, these folks keep voting for their own demise.

Truth is the politicians lie before every election and the people buy it. They want to believe democrats.


38 posted on 07/22/2013 4:35:56 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: grundle

Power from some of the best coal in the world.
Trashed.


39 posted on 07/22/2013 4:39:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Here's where the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was on this a year ago when they handed out their endorsement for President:

Re-elect Obama

40 posted on 07/22/2013 5:04:32 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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